False Bravado of Gen. Niazi & Fall of Radio Pakistan

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  1. Daredevil

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnQ2gDG1gM

    Gen. Niazi who said he will have tank run over his body rather than running away from East Pakistan (now Bangaldesh). Eventually, he had to surrender to India.

    In the video, you can also see how Indian Army facilitated the fall of Radio Pakistan in East Pakistan (ziad Hamid, where are thou?). :rofl: :rofl:
     
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    Another awesome video ;)

     
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    He said BBC = Brahman Broadcasting Corporation. :D
     
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    kuch kuch views niazi ke Farhaan se milte ha:sad::sad::p:p
     
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    As somebody posted on BR

    "Those last few seconds of the video where it pans Niazi's face (moments before signing the surrender documents) is a keeper. It has the makings of someone's avatar. "

    So much so for the TFTA mard-e-momin Ghazi of Pakhana-land. :laugh:
     
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    Why so much hate for the Brahmins from the Paki's?
    Is it a tacit acceptance of themselves being Sudras?
     
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    Both have same aadat... ALL AIR NO DUM.

    Here is the so called super-dooper-pooper "TIGER" Niazi surrendering.... all his air busted. :taunt: :laugh: :pakistan:

    I like the smile कुटिल मुस्कान on the navy guy since navy THRASHED pakis really really badly.

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    Sub-continentals don't have it in them to fight to the bitter end. All they have is bravado and bluster.

    The Battle of Berlin in WWII resulted in losses of close to a million men for the Red Army, yet the Germans fought until their capital was reduced to rubble and the top leaders committed suicide rather than surrender or run away. Similarly the Japanese fought on despite the Americans dropping an A-bomb on their cities.

    Indians have never fought so hard to defend their nation and Pakis, being former Indians, fall in the same camp.
     
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    Its not just Pakistanis but the muslims all over SA hate brahmins. They cud never understand the reason as to why these people cud not be converted to islam and why these people chose death over conversion. And these people always created problem for the muslim invaders by inciting locals to fight them.
    In nearly all Pak TV serials and movies you will see Brahmins being shown in very poor light as schemers and conspirators who use their brain far more devastatingly than the sword which these invaders used.
    Zain Hamid had openly stated that after ghazwa-e-hind, they will convert shudras to Islam as brothers and khsatriyaas will be called friends while all Brahmins will be put to death.
     
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    Afaik Brahmins did convert in huge numbers to Islam. Guru Tegh Bahadur's sacrifice for Brahmins is ample proof.

    However, Pakistanis hate Brahmins(and Baniyas) because to them they represent all that is wrong and evil with the Kuffr Hindus.
     
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    India has never had an invasion in recent times, historically though there are many battles which show how Indians were willing to fight to the bitter end.

    In fact I have a different hypothesis, Indians culturally are programmed to fight to the bitter end rather then perform a tactical retreat. Running away from a battle is dishonour in Kshatriya culture, and dying on the battlefield is considered a glorious death.
     
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    How ungrateful PA is, can be gauged from the fact that IA allowed them to keep their weapons with them and only took token surrender by laying down Pistols so that they can save themselves from being massacred by Bengalis who wanted to kill them all alongwith their families. IA decided to move these POWs to India instead of holding them captive in BD to ensure their safety. even the families of these POWs were moved to Barrackpore near Kolkata and housed safely under full protection. In hindsight, I think we shud have completely disarmed these bastards and left them to be butchered by the BD people for what they have been doing to us in Kashmir.
     
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    Kashmiri Pandits were put to extreme torture and killed by millions as they refused to convert to Islam. It was than that they requested ninth Guru for Help. Who than travelled to Delhi and challenged that If He cud be converted than all brahmins will convert to Islam. we all know what happened after that.
     
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    In N India the vast majority of Muslims belong to craftsmen caste such as weaver, brass workers, etc. Plus Uttar Pradesh that has a high percentage of Muslims also has a high percentage of Brahmins at 10% - in S India that did not see many invasions the percentage of Brahmins varies between 2-4%. Minimum number of converts to Islam were from Brahmins and Dalits IMO. Even in Pakistan the drain cleaners and scavengers are Hindus or Christians and considered unclean.
     
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    Many of the Hindu upper castes converting to Islam adopted Islamic upper castes.

    Amongst the muslim society being a brahmin/pandit or baniya/mahajan was a term of derision. And being of foreign descent automatically meant an upper caste.

    For eg. the number of Pathan muslims from UP and Bihar (including in Karachi) perhaps outnumber the number of Pathans from KP and Afghanistan.
     
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    True, death in battle was considered better than dishonour and defeat.
     
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    Nazis, the Red Army and the Japanese Army had a choice of either getting a bullet from their own Captains/LTs or getting a bullet from their enemy. They simply chose to take a bullet from their enemies. For a worst case scenario they were conditioned to commit suicide. After all the bravado your guru Hitler committed suicide like a wussy! After all the bravado Japan emperor put the blame on his Prime Minister like a pu$$y instead of backing himself of his bravey ...haha...

    Let's talk about you now. Have to every stood at the border ? Do you even know what it means ? Do you think committing suicide is an act of bravery ? What have you done anyway in your life other than putting on weight by eating and then going to gym and lose four kilos of weight every month ?
     
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    Have you stood at the border or been shot by an enemy bullet? Didn't think so, so how about you stop acting like a troll and start acting mature?
     
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    What you say is only true for the kshatriya elite. It was part of their ethos to fight valiantly to the end, as it was for warrior elites throughout the world. But for the average Indian, warfare was something to be avoided at all costs. We have never fought a "total war" in our history.

    The Punjabis who formed the bulk of the Pakistani Army were not kshatriyas.
     
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    I know about the cultural notions, yet large numbers of Indian soldiers surrendered and were taken as PoW by the Chinese in 1962. Also, if you look a bit further back in history, you will find Indian history littered with stories of traitors and cowards-e.g the last Peshwa of the Maratha Empire, who ran away from every battle with the British, the gatekeepers of the Mysore fort who locked Tipu Sultan out and caused his death in battle, the famous Mir Jafar, the armies employed by 18th century Indian kingdoms which fell apart at the first sign of defeat etc.

    Even if we discard pre-independence examples as being due to insufficient development of India as a nation-state as hence lack of nationalism among its citizens, post-Independence India except in 1962, has never faced an adversary greater than she could handle. Yet. in the few encounters we have had even with terrorists, I see bravado replacing results. For example, do you remember the famous interview given by the MARCOS during the 2008 Mumbai attacks? They claimed they had finished off all the terrorists, yet the NSG later found that wasn't true. Again an example of false bravado, just like Gen. Niazi above.
     

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