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India will not allow export of the FA-18 Super Hornet to Enemy Countries - Claws Under Review

Boeing’s decision to manufacture advanced medium combat aircraft, Super Hornet in India, has run into a fresh hurdle with issues over their export.

Michael Koch, who is Boeing’s President for Defence, Space and Security in India, told BusinessLine that the aircraft maker is committed to producing Super Hornets in India. “The Super Hornets will be built in India in a world class advanced manufacturing facility with the very latest technologies in place, perfectly positioning India to build its Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA),” he said.

But sources in the Defence Ministry said the issue of exporting the fighter jets manufactured here remains a key question which needs to be answered for the project to take off.

“One needs to understand that in India, the government is the buyer. And it can buy only so much. So, if a company is setting up a plant to manufacture these planes here then after a point their production will halt. They have to look for exporting them to other countries,” the official said requesting anonymity.

The official also added that even if there are plans of shipping these planes, there will be riders coming along with it because India cannot have these jets to be shipped to the “enemy countries”.

With the most advanced technologies, designed in stealth and a robust capability growth plan, the Super Hornet offers advanced multi-role attack fighter capability that is suited to meet the needs of the Indian Air Force.

Koch pointed out that the Super Hornet not only has a low acquisition cost, but it costs less per flight hour to operate than any other tactical aircraft in US forces inventory. That includes single engine fighters, which many would incorrectly assume are cheaper to operate. “The lethality of the Super Hornet is as game changing, as it is versatile. The Super Hornet fighter is the most advanced fighter being considered,” he said.

Koch also said that Boeing’s business strategy has a dual focus in India – firstly, to provide a winning platform to our military customers, with reliable and fuel-efficient products, underscored by life-cycle support services; and secondly, to create an eco-system for the aerospace industry in India, through partnerships with local companies.

“Going forward, you will see Boeing deepening its presence in India and continue to strengthen its partnerships with Indian companies to align with the government’s Make in India vision.”

Significant portions of the Apache and Chinook helicopters will be made in India. While the Bengaluru-based Dynamatic Technologies manufactures the ramp and pylon for the CH-47 Chinook helicopter in India, Boeing last year also announced a joint venture with Tata Advanced Systems Ltd (TASL) to manufacture aerostructures for aircraft.

“Boeing also sees future opportunities for providing additional P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance aircraft, aircraft refuelling tankers and weapons such as Harpoon missiles, unmanned systems and services and support,” Koch said.

He said Boeing has maintained its delivery schedules all along. For example, 10 C-17 Globemaster III strategic airlifter aircraft to the IAF were delivered on schedule in 2013 and 2014. With the 10 deliveries, India became the largest international operator of the C-17. Boeing also delivered all eight P-8I maritime surveillance aircraft to the Indian Navy by the end of 2015, all on time and budget.

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India will not allow export of the FA-18 Super Hornet to Enemy Countries - Claws Under Review

Boeing’s decision to manufacture advanced medium combat aircraft, Super Hornet in India, has run into a fresh hurdle with issues over their export.

Michael Koch, who is Boeing’s President for Defence, Space and Security in India, told BusinessLine that the aircraft maker is committed to producing Super Hornets in India. “The Super Hornets will be built in India in a world class advanced manufacturing facility with the very latest technologies in place, perfectly positioning India to build its Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA),” he said.

But sources in the Defence Ministry said the issue of exporting the fighter jets manufactured here remains a key question which needs to be answered for the project to take off.

“One needs to understand that in India, the government is the buyer. And it can buy only so much. So, if a company is setting up a plant to manufacture these planes here then after a point their production will halt. They have to look for exporting them to other countries,” the official said requesting anonymity.

The official also added that even if there are plans of shipping these planes, there will be riders coming along with it because India cannot have these jets to be shipped to the “enemy countries”.

With the most advanced technologies, designed in stealth and a robust capability growth plan, the Super Hornet offers advanced multi-role attack fighter capability that is suited to meet the needs of the Indian Air Force.

Koch pointed out that the Super Hornet not only has a low acquisition cost, but it costs less per flight hour to operate than any other tactical aircraft in US forces inventory. That includes single engine fighters, which many would incorrectly assume are cheaper to operate. “The lethality of the Super Hornet is as game changing, as it is versatile. The Super Hornet fighter is the most advanced fighter being considered,” he said.

Koch also said that Boeing’s business strategy has a dual focus in India – firstly, to provide a winning platform to our military customers, with reliable and fuel-efficient products, underscored by life-cycle support services; and secondly, to create an eco-system for the aerospace industry in India, through partnerships with local companies.

“Going forward, you will see Boeing deepening its presence in India and continue to strengthen its partnerships with Indian companies to align with the government’s Make in India vision.”

Significant portions of the Apache and Chinook helicopters will be made in India. While the Bengaluru-based Dynamatic Technologies manufactures the ramp and pylon for the CH-47 Chinook helicopter in India, Boeing last year also announced a joint venture with Tata Advanced Systems Ltd (TASL) to manufacture aerostructures for aircraft.

“Boeing also sees future opportunities for providing additional P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance aircraft, aircraft refuelling tankers and weapons such as Harpoon missiles, unmanned systems and services and support,” Koch said.

He said Boeing has maintained its delivery schedules all along. For example, 10 C-17 Globemaster III strategic airlifter aircraft to the IAF were delivered on schedule in 2013 and 2014. With the 10 deliveries, India became the largest international operator of the C-17. Boeing also delivered all eight P-8I maritime surveillance aircraft to the Indian Navy by the end of 2015, all on time and budget.
http://www.defencenews.in/article.aspx?id=239677
Absolutely no problem !

As India will never take SH18. Better to accept it to be largely exported. In P.kistan for exemple.
 

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Boeing Wants To Cash In India's Military Spending Spree

Boeing is ramping up its efforts to win a bigger share of the billions India spends on military hardware.
The aviation giant has announced it's setting up a new unit that will handle all its defense operations in the country. It will focus on building up a manufacturing and engineering base in addition to other services, the company said.
India will be only the fourth country outside the U.S. where Boeing (BA) has a dedicated defense arm. The others are in the U.K., Australia and Saudi Arabia.
India is on a weapons spending spree, shelling out more than $50 billion on military equipment last year. That's already more than Russia -- and India is projected to overtake the U.K. as the world's third largest defense buyer by 2018, according to IHS Jane's.
Boeing has been aggressively expanding into the Indian market. The U.S. manufacturer announced an $11 billion deal last month to supply 100 new 737 Max 8 commercial aircraft to budget airline Spicejet.
With India also shopping for new fighter jets, Boeing is showing that it's ready to compete with the likes of Lockheed Martin (LMT) and Swedish firm Saab -- both of which have offered to manufacture their combat aircraft in India. Lockheed has even said it's willing to make the South Asian country a global manufacturing hub for its F-16 jets.
Boeing already supplies several military aircraft to India, including C-17 supply planes and its Apache and Chinook helicopters. It has also pitched its own fighter -- the F/A 18 Super Hornet -- to the Indian navy, a company representative told CNNMoney, and would potentially make them in the country if it wins the contract.
The company appears eager to align itself with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's 'Make in India' program, aimed at boosting local manufacturing.
"We are making the changes necessary to position ourselves for future growth ... and accelerate our efforts to achieve the country's 'Make in India' vision," Leanne Caret, the company's head of defense, space and security, said in a statement.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/02/boeing-wants-to-cash-in-on-indias.html
 

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To fly off INS Vikramaditya, Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet awaits Parrikar’s big Strategic partnership model

Aero India 2017: US defence major Boeing is keenly looking to bag the contract for Indian Navy’s multi-role carrier-borne fighter jets. Offering its F/A-18, Boeing has said that it is awaiting the final strategic partnership model from the Ministry of Defence, before it works out its ‘Make in India’ plan for the fighter jet. “We are excited by the offer in the Indian Navy for the carrier-borne fighter aircraft. If you look around the world, then the most lethal, undefeated platform which can look into the future for the next 40 to 50 years is the F/A-18. We will work with the Indian Navy to be partners. We have also noted very clearly what the Defence Minister said that if you want to buy a fighter it has to be ‘Made in India’. We will certainly take a close look at that at work through our partnership models to respond to the Indian Navy’s needs,” Pratyush Kumar, President of Boeing India told FE Online.

Asked whether Boeing has identified any partners for the F/A-18 project, Pratyush Kumar said, “We are waiting for the new strategic partnership model. We are awaiting that clarity from the MoD, but, even before that we have to get the supplier base ready. We are working with the Indian supplier base to figure out the gaps and work out a plan for this.”

The Indian Navy recently ‘rejected’ the indigenous LCA Tejas carrier-borne aircraft on the grounds that it is “too heavy”. It launched a Request for Information to procure 57 multi-role combat aircraft for its carrier. Six planes are said to be compatible for aircraft carrier flying. These are Rafale, F-18 Super Hornet, MIG-29K, F-35B and F-35C, and Gripen. It is being said that the Indian Navy would prefer a twin-engine fighter aircraft, which implies that F-18, Rafale and MIG-29K would fit the role.

The Indian Navy already has eight Boeing’s P-8I Poseidon long-range surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft. Last year, the Defence Ministry cleared the $1 billion deal for acquisition for another 4 P8Is. Kumar said that Boeing will start delivering these to the Indian Navy by 2020. “P8I has given unrivaled capability to protect our shores coast to coast, all of 7,000 miles of shoreline that we have. P8Is have become not only the eyes and ears of the Navy, but they are also a very lethal platform,” he said. Known as the ‘hawk eyes’ of Indian Navy give the Indian Navy a much needed boost for maritime surveillance capability in the Indian Ocean. The acquisition of four more P8Is is also significant in the backdrop of increased sightings of Chinese submarines in the Indian Ocean region.

Meanwhile, Boeing is making the Apache, Chinook attack and transport helicopters for the Indian Air Force. “As far as Apache and Chinook are concerned, we are in production as we speak, we should be able to deliver by 2019. We have set a partnership with Tata Advanced Systems to make the fuselages for Apache. The future, 2019 Apache will have the ‘Made in India’ fuselage,” Kumar said.

Boeing is also looking to contribute to the government’s Skill India programme and has already sent a proposal for ‘skilling’ 1,000 people a year. “We are investing across the entire eco system of aerospace and defence – engineering, supply chain and sourcing, manufacturing. We have a very comprehensive skill development programme. We sponsor a pan-India competition for aero modeling, which is anchored by IITs. We are working with IITs and ISCs for high-end R&D. We are also working on frontline factory training,” Kumar told FE Online.

Highlighting the importance of job creation, Kumar said, “The skilled workforce is a perishable skill. So if you train somebody and don’t give them work, then the skill degrades. So, if we train people, there has to be a way to absorb them into the workforce. On an average we look at 30-50 people per year per batch. We have a proposal with the Skills Ministry to expand that to almost 1000 per year, so that is 10,000 over the next 10 years,” he added.

http://www.defencenews.in/article/T...ikar’s-big-Strategic-partnership-model-250544
 

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US and few of their allies are going for F-35.


:lawl:

Prove it first. :facepalm:

And sir, it is F/A-18 E/F/G Super Hornet block 3 (Advanced Super Hornet).
US & it's allies were made to go for f-35. F22 was a good fighter and basis for f-35 was non existent. Idea of siding with US camp meant putting up with such blunders. Unlike the US & it's allies India doesn't invade and hence requirements are different. We would possibly lose Iran and Russia too. Too high a price considering there are other viable options. Also France could help in Indian nuclear tech that US would never do except in paper and mou's which will never bear any fruition
 

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Sir, ask it to KB.

OR

Try it on T-90 thread.

And ask how much they already spend on it just to make it suitable in the summer of Rajasthan.
With the mess of T90, sukhoi & mig we have won 4 battles and the Pakistanis with superior us tech lost all of them. Not to mention US itself has not won any war decisively since ww2. Pouring billions alone can't secure national interests. Makes great sense to have few reliable partners rather than "allies" who do nothing but squabble. Had the eurofi gh ter been expeditiously completed it would have cost lot less. Expecting a developing nation to pay for such blunders is unrealistic.
 

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ToT is not free lunch. India paid much more for it.

The red color part suits better for Russian arms.

Check it how much ToT India got for BrahMos.

India just started in making of new aircraft carrier with US. What about that......!
US is yet to demonstrate it's sincerity in Indo US relations. If these remain uncertain it certainly won't help. If US imposed sanctions on us during a war for our survival, no matter what weapons they sell us would prove useless. Not saying we can't buy from the US but frontline military tech is sensitive business and requisite confidence must exist in all parties involved if it's to be successful
 

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US aircrafts used by India are not frontline equipment. US has always sided with Pakistan for reasons that never existed. These difficulties have to be overcome and Obama did a great deal to that end. But it remains to be seen what course Trump would take which doesn't look promising as of now.
TOT is what India needs and it helps India in many ways. It is not necessary that ToT happens overtly.

Secondly, what ever you are saying about the aircraft Carrier deal is all random judgment and no one is heard anything about negotiation so we will keep that aside.

The day it is launched and the day it is operational, we will have something to discuss. You see negotiation will itself take more than 2 years. Lol
 

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I understand well.
So OK for the engine.
But anything to show to explain F35 body is so aerodynamic it doesn't need more thrust than EF or Rafale for same speed, so less IR? No I think. It's an evidence.[/QUOT


Sir, something for you........................
India bought transports, then combat helicopters; I think next step is combat planes.

There is not much problem except some "agreements" which Americans can waive if Congress agrees.
Which the Congress won't. They'll keep pushing f16 because Lockheed pays them better and it's not for the defense of their country so it's a non issue
 

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You are not going to get your hands on any Advanced Super Hornet before India signs LEMOA, CISMOA and compromises all its decades old's non alignment policy .
Non alignment policy is a sham. No one was neutral barring the Scandinavians perhaps. What remains to be seen is that these agreements are not the typical one sided deals US coerces it's "allies" to make
 

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as per the article , if the operating cost of f18 is less then F16 , then why we are even going for a single engine ....?

anyhow , in my guess , it will be gripen in single engine and f18 in twin..!!
 

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