Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India warn

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    NEW DELHI: India will retaliate massively even if Pakistan uses tactical nuclear weapons against it. With Pakistan developing "tactical" nuclear warheads, that is, miniaturizing its weapons to be carried on short-range missiles, India will protect its security interests by retaliating to a "smaller" tactical attack in exactly the same manner as it would respond to a "big" strategic attack.

    Articulating Indian nuclear policy in this regard for the first time, Shyam Saran, convener of the National Security Advisory Board, said, "India will not be the first to use nuclear weapons, but if it is attacked with such weapons, it would engage in nuclear retaliation which will be massive and designed to inflict unacceptable damage on its adversary. The label on a nuclear weapon used for attacking India, strategic or tactical, is irrelevant from the Indian perspective." This is significant, because Saran was placing on record India's official nuclear posture with the full concurrence of the highest levels of nuclear policymakers in New Delhi.

    Giving a speech on India's nuclear deterrent recently, Saran placed India's nuclear posture in perspective in the context of recent developments, notably the "jihadist edge" that Pakistan's nuclear weapons capability have acquired.

    Saran argued that as a result of its tactical weapons, Pakistan believes it has brought down the threshold of nuclear use. "Pakistani motivation is to dissuade India from contemplating conventional punitive retaliation to sub-conventional but highly destructive and disruptive cross-border terrorist strikes such as the horrific 26/11 attack on Mumbai. What Pakistan is signalling to India and to the world is that India should not contemplate retaliation even if there is another Mumbai because Pakistan has lowered the threshold of nuclear use to the theatre level. This is nothing short of nuclear blackmail, no different from the irresponsible behaviour one witnesses in North Korea," he said.

    One of the main reasons for Pakistan miniaturizing its nukes is actually to keep its weapons from being confiscated or neutralized by the US, a fear that has grown in the Pakistani establishment in the wake of the operation against Osama bin Laden. "Pakistan has, nevertheless, projected its nuclear deterrent as solely targeted at India and its strategic doctrine mimics the binary nuclear equation between the US and the Soviet Union which prevailed during the Cold War," Saran said.

    However, warning Pakistan, he added, "A limited nuclear war is a contradiction in terms. Any nuclear exchange, once initiated, would swiftly and inexorably escalate to the strategic level. Pakistan would be prudent not to assume otherwise as it sometimes appears to do, most recently by developing and perhaps deploying theatre nuclear weapons."

    There have been significant shifts in Pakistan's nuclear posture recently. First is the movement from uranium to a newer generation of plutonium weapons, which has enabled Pakistan to increase the number of weapons, outstripping India in weapons and fissile material production. Although they are still to be verified, Pakistan has claimed it has miniaturized nuclear weapons to be used on cruise missiles and other short-range missiles. The newer generation of Pakistan's weapons are also solid-fuelled rather than liquid, making them easier to transport and launch.

    http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Eve...tion-India-warns-Pak/articleshow/19793847.cms
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    Something does not fit the bill here. First we say Pak has now more nukes than India. Then we say we will inflict massive damage on them. Max damage means more nukes to glass each an every inch of Pak.

    Western Intel on Indian nukes not accurate.
     
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    India is very secretive about its Nuke arsenal. When western countries cant not detect two nuclear test, it is easy to guess they are bluffing about ----es having more Nukes.
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    nothing new in it, we have already said that any attack (Nuke, Chemical or Bio) on India or its forces any where would result in massive retaliation. When Pak says NASR first they dont have tech to fit in small nuke at that rocket, then if they do and they attack Indian advancing armor then we will dump our 50% nukes on them to make sure they are wiped off the world map. I am sure we can sacrifice our one armor for entire Pakistan so that this Pak problem is solved once in for all.

    Then we will write the history books, world will justify such action.
     
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    five nuke tests, for the sub kilo ton tests they didnt get seismic data.
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    India should make it clear, that it will retaliate even if it perceives an imminent attack on its soil/assets/territory/diaspora by another country. And our response may or mayn't be limited to the aggressor and or their allies.
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    Any ideas about how many Megatons yield required to wipe out Pakistan from globe ???
    Or in other way area directly (immediately) and indirectly(in aftermath of the strike due to radiations) affected by the warhead yielding of 1 MT ???
     
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    We don't have any MT yield weapons.
     
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    Yeah we can have defensive offense doctrine any time we want.
    Like the song, it only words and words can take your heart away. We can mix up words. When hostial situation arise.
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    20 nukes of 40KT are enoght to make Pakistan ceased to exist as country. Another 20 to wipe them from the map.
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    Any official statement to that effect ??
     
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    TN in shakti was reduce yield so that it wont damage villages around test site. We have citi buster MT nukes
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    All out nukes are 200-300kt yield range
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    There was a statement from an official after the A5 test last year
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    I know that but one can't be damn sure about it in the age of supercomputers simulations.

    Anyway that was not my point that whether do we possess 1 Mt bomb or not, I am just interested in knowing the area damaged by that type of detonation , we can always add up our sub kilo ton bombs in as many missiles to have yield of one Mt bomb.

    Since Pak's land area is nearly 800000 sq kms. is there a need to empty our whole nuke arsenal in first go itself to avoid any backlash ??
     
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    Is there any link available on net to corroborate that ??
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    @Yusuf Bhai @saya , do you have any info whether we are at a stage to simulate the nuke test & estimate the yield data?
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

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    We dont need MT yield weapons. MT yield was for taking out hardened structures like silos and cover for the high CEP of missiles at the time.

    We are going to target cities with our nukes. Our missiles are accurate. Target their water supply and sewer system and they will keep dying long after the blast effect kills in the first round.
     
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    Yes we do simulate. How else do you test a 45kt bomb and say we have a 300kt bomb
     
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    Re: Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India

    Still my question begs simple answer .

    Area affected by detonation of 1 MT yielding nuclear fissile material ????


    And if we don't want any retaliation then silos and hardened underground bunkers storing their nukes need to be taken out at first strike itself.
     
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