Evangelical Fellowship of India challenges Freedom of Religion Act of Himachal

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    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Three petitions have been filed by Evangelical Fellowship of India and Shabnam Hashmir-led Act Now for Harmony and Democracy challenging the Constitutional validity of the Act. They are basically asking for conversions to be allowed in secrecy i.e. without having to declare to the District Magistrate the intention to convert beforehand. This clause is to prevent religious conversion through fraudulent or coercive means or under financial inducement. The Law was brought in by Congress-led government in the Himachal Assembly and unanimously passed in December 2006. Subramaniam Swamy is challenging the petitions.

    Swamy defends Himachal Freedom of Religion Act

     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Subramanian Swamy is really starting to rub me the wrong way. First it was false allegations and lies about Rafale, now it is blocking freedom of religion. Now I understand why he has so many enemies.
     
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    ^^^^:pound:Freedom of religion. Westerners and their hypocrisy
     
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    To hell with you and your bullshit. Same goes for all western hypocrites who think and act like they are the master race yet don't miss an opportunity to lecture us on the caste system...
     
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    ^^^ They cant accomodate the immigrants inside their countries without making sure that they learn that their country has Christian faith, and now are advocating us on Religious freedom :rofl:
     
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    Ever get a chance to go to the beautiful islands of French Polynesia in the south Pacific. The French pricks went and destroyed several thousand year old stone idols erected by the ancient Polynesians. Several of the semi-destroyed idols have their noses, ears and genitals cut off...
    This is how Europeans typically acted when they could get away with impunity...

    Today the locals have French sounding names....
     
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    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

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    There is no "blocking of freedom of religion". The Act just makes sure that conversion through fraudulent means -- through inducements, through coercion are not carried out. The people can still convert of their own volition and that right is upheld by the Constitution of India.

    But then I understand why these Evangelists are so concerned..because basically no conversion happens for genuine spiritual reason and almost all of them are through coercion and corruption...No wonder you are also so concerned.!!!
     
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    As I already told before the process is spontaneous from less random state to more random state, not the other way around. If there is no outside pressure, the religion with the least restrictions(meaning the most randomness) will be the most dominant religion. Seriously, think about it, will you want ot be in a religion that "demands" prayers every five hours, or on every Sunday, or will you rather be in a religion, where you pray when you want, with no compulsions, provided you are given a choice to choose among them?

    So by that logic, we should not have conversions to abrahamic faiths but rather to dharmic faiths. But that is not so, because none of the converts are actually attracted by the philosophical teachings of those faiths but rather for their own purposes. And most of them dont know their own philosophies to be precise:truestory:

    But the thing to be noted as always is the Western hypocrisy:lol:
     
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    I am afraid there is a law that does not allow conversion by deceit (which is synonymous with conversion not being transparent and open).

    India is a multireligous country and we can't have social discord.

    In Christianity and Islam, conversion has to be with free will.

    If there is free will, where is the requirement of secrecy or subterfuge?

    In France, wearing religious symbols can invite jail.

    Many would feel that to be a fool act of the depraved, lost and insecure souls!

    For instance, what is wrong with the Burka?

    If the Muslims don't trust the French decency and wish that their women wear the Burka to avoid the salacious glance with evil intent of the French, do you think you Frenchmen are being fair and respecting human rights that guarantee that women as not looked at as sex objects?

    No sir, your evangelist zeal is horribly misplaced and parochial!
     
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    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

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    Sir most of the missionary funds into India come from four sources -- US, UK, France and Germany.

    Perhaps our Armand is one such "shareholder" in "XYZ Soul Harvesting Public Ltd" and want his dividends...:lol:
     
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    Soul Harvesting Pvt limited:rotflmao:.

    Now, thats a good one
     
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    Very correct, what is the need for secrecy. Even for registering a marriage one has to declare couple of weeks before AFAIK.
     
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    Armand, India was already an old civilisation long before Europeans were even civilised. We do not want our culture and way of life to be wiped out by alien aggressive cultures.
     

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