Eurofighter cutting price to win MMRCA

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  1. rahulrds1

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    [11th June 2012 , LONDON]: Britain's BAE Systems is reported to be preparing a fresh bid which may include cutting down the prices for the world's biggest fighter jet order despite India's rejection of its Eurofighter Typhoon in favour of France's Dassault Rafale.

    India chose the French fighter in January in a deal worth nearly £13 billion for 126 aircraft. India's decision had disappointed many in Britain, including Prime Minister David Cameron.

    In a report without mentioning the source of information, The Mail on Sunday said: "BAE believes that when India scrutinises the Rafale and assesses the French submission, it will realize the Eurofighter is a superior aircraft that will be cheaper overall".

    "If the Indians are willing to look again at the Eurofighter and there are indications that is happening, a revised bid will be ready for them," it added.

    "BAE has even come up with designs for a marine version of the Eurofighter in case the Indians want to fly it from aircraft carriers," the report said.

    The report said that Ian King, BAE chief executive, had not ruled out reducing the price of the Typhoon. "The Eurofighter, which is built in partnership with the German and Spanish arms of defence giant EADS and Italy's Finmeccanica, lost out because it was about 3.5 million pounds a plane more expensive than the Rafale", the report said.

    "And the French, according to the Indians, offered better after-deals, including technology upgrades and the latest weaponry," it added. There were earlier suggestions that Britain's aid to India was partly designed to help win the major contract, which has since been denied.

    BAE cutting price to win 126 fighters deal? - The Times of India

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  3. mki

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    what the hell is going on? person is already died....... and the already on the way to heaven...... then why the hell this people is making operation....
     
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    in this tug of war between two competitors the contract and delivery of the plane may be delayed and in the end we may have NO MRCA in our arsenal when a real shooting war breaks out :mad:
     
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    britishers are not giving up so easily, it's the same way they captured india. they were in competition with the french back in the 1700.
     
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    ^^ 1604 , to be precise. That's when Thomas Row arrived in India.
     
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    A revised british offer will not change anything for the Typhoon but yes it will help india put pressure on Dassault and get the price of Rafale down even further. Good for India.
     
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    Just signed the damn deal already. The longer it takes, the more political shenanigans we shall witness. Squeeze as much out of this from the French and work towards ensuring that this is the last damn deal for purchasing combat jets from abroad. The next IAF fighter should be designed, developed and manufactured within these shores only.
     
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    It will do no such thing. We follow a process where a rejected bidder cannot apply again unless the current tender is canceled and there is a new tender started.

    Dassault has nothing to fear from EF. The only thing Dassault has to fear is fvking things up by themselves like the UAE deal.

    We cannot use the new EF offer as a bargaining chip.

    EF's offer is a lot of hot air.

    EDIT: I also wanted to add that all these price cuts would mean something else in the bid was cut. Like how Dassault reduced squadron strength to 18 in the Swiss deal to decrease the bid amount. So, here EADS may reduce ToT offered or industrial participation which will be detrimental to India as a whole.
     
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    how cheap are you (EF) is talking about without compromising on quality. Do it fast as we have price negotiations to do with Rafale. This will force the Rafale to reduce the cost of their fighter without compromising on quality. Win Win situation for us.........
     
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    BAE cutting price to win 126 fighters deal?

    BAE cutting price to win 126 fighters deal? - Times Of India

    BAE cutting price to win 126 fighters deal?
    PTI Jun 11, 2012, 01.15AM IST


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    LONDON: Britain's BAE Systems is reported to be preparing a fresh bid which may include cutting down the prices for the world's biggest fighter jet order despite India's rejection of its Eurofighter Typhoon in favour of France's Dassault Rafale.

    India chose the French fighter in January in a deal worth nearly £13 billion for 126 aircraft. India's decision had disappointed many in Britain, including Prime Minister David Cameron.


    In a report without mentioning the source of information, The Mail on Sunday said: "BAE believes that when India scrutinises the Rafale and assesses the French submission, it will realize the Eurofighter is a superior aircraft that will be cheaper overall".

    "If the Indians are willing to look again at the Eurofighter and there are indications that is happening, a revised bid will be ready for them," it added.

    "BAE has even come up with designs for a marine version of the Eurofighter in case the Indians want to fly it from aircraft carriers," the report said.

    The report said that Ian King, BAE chief executive, had not ruled out reducing the price of the Typhoon. "The Eurofighter, which is built in partnership with the German and Spanish arms of defence giant EADS and Italy's Finmeccanica, lost out because it was about 3.5 million pounds a plane more expensive than the Rafale", the report said.

    "And the French, according to the Indians, offered better after-deals, including technology upgrades and the latest weaponry," it added. There were earlier suggestions that Britain's aid to India was partly designed to help win the major contract, which has since been denied.
     
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    that's good but not useful for us ,

    Pakistan can go for cheap with large numbers , efi as good as rafale
     
  14. Singh

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    How about buying both ? or rejecting both and going straight with f-35 ?
     
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    What you smokeing? Where would that put the ToT and in-house production etc.,?
     
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    Please get any plane but fast instead of going merry go around or inky pinky ponky .
     
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  17. arya

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    well you want to kill our own lca ??

    we have to work on lca and induct them as much we can

    well we cant go for both rafale is best for us but we have to make sure that Pakistan will not get euro fighter we have to buy some other things from them so that they will not sell euro fighter to pakistan
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    The EF-2000 is shit really, has no censors and is a crappy peace of conglomerate Fail.

    The only negative with the Rafale is the under powered 3.5 generation engine.

    Everything else with the Raf is awesome, they need to do the Kaveri deal fast stop cribbing about details.
     
  19. arya

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    are you kidding now our army chief and our pm are relative so how can you say that fast

    now every thing will be more worst condition then past
     
  20. Singh

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    LCA is a dud.

    +==

    What is so wrong with EF typhoon ? :shocked:
     
  21. arya

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    singh we have to make dud into a champ and that will happen only when we use them .

    we have to learn from china
     

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