Emergence of a third front for 2014 elections ?

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  1. Ray

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    Didi hopeful of a third bloc

    Third Bloc?

    Has it ever come into being?

    The fat man of Bengal Partha Chatterjee claims that they will be able to send 36 MPs to Parliament. Maybe they can.

    But can 36 be such a force that it can make a Third Front?

    She maybe making an impression on Bengal, but does she have any credibility pan India?
     
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    How much I wish for a Third front! The only problem is instability if it comes true.
     
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    Third Front will be as effective as the Third World!

    Or would that be cynical a thought?
     
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    And right now we have first world govt.:lol:
     
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    3rd front would be worst government one can expect.

    Only twice it happened.

    2 P.M. in 18 months in early 90's - V.P.Singh & Chandrshekhar - Played reservation card in north India & India was nearly bankruptcy.

    Then in Mid 90's - Again 2 P.M in 18 months - I.K.Gujral & H.D. Devegowda - Worst ever government.

    It's impossible for 3rd front to form a government in future. It needs 272 MP's and now highly unlikely that BJP or Congress will ever support any such possibility. They will better sit in opposition.

    BJP + congress will win 2/3rd seats. Rest smaller parties difference is deeper than ocean.

    Mamta Banerji won't get more than 20-25 MP's and if she will become PM, she will only take care for W.B.

    Only national parties should come in power.
     
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    If Ms Bannerjee comes to power, while she will not forsake WB, she will ensure her populism around India to show she is the Second Coming of Christ and lead India into the chaos economically!
     
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    "National parties" are an endangered species. The process of political decentralisation that started in 1989 and the financial decentralisation that started in 1991 cannot be undone.
    Mandal commission empowered the masses and post 1991 most people in UP and Bihar have generally preferred regional parties.
    LOL "national parties" cannot form their own govt in the biggest and most populous state UP. Even in Bihar, MH, Bengal, TN the so called national parties cannot form a govt purely on their own.
    It is only a matter of time before some state level heavy weights breakaway and form their own parties.

    "National parties" are a platform for centralisation , the sooner their demolition happens the better for Indian democracy and Federalism.
     
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    Yes, She will. She will indulge in cheap publicity & Promotion. Indeed, Any regional party leader will do. IMO, She doesn't deserve to be CM. W.B. needs a quality administrator like Modi, Nitish or Raman Singh who can improve the state in better way and not participate in politics 24x7.

    There is one more point. So called regional block are against each other.

    Mamta Vs Left
    Mayawati Vs Mulayam
    AIADMK Vs DMK

    Mamta can come with BJP or Congress, But it will be nearly impossible for her to come with Left. :rofl:
     
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    Dravidian parties have not forsaken TN.
    That has not resulted in economic chaos in the country.
    The rest of the parties in coalition govt wont allow any one a free hand in crucial policy making.Everything will happen with consensus. The country was not destroyed under UF and NF.

    Some fears are totally unfounded.
     
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    Still, National parties are far better.

    JD was never national party, It was group of many regional leaders who came together for power. Later on, It was divided in 4-5 parts like JD(u), JD(s), RJD, SP, INLD, BJD and so on.

    U.P. - Because it's cast based politics. Both Congress & BJP concentrated on whole community, So lost. BJP can't project a specific cast leader. So the congress. It will have negative impact on Pan-India. Still, Things will improve. Bihar same thing, Still, it's BJP+JD(u) government. 30 years of cast based politics, Still JD(u) needed BJP. Tamil Nadu is exceptional.

    There are many more states where there are only BJP or Congress. Regional parties do have some importance, But they have only influence in 1/2 states mostly.
     
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    Dravidian Parties have not given a PM

    Here was the issue of Mamata as PM.

    You must display some patience to read the context.

    Here it is to help you on the way:

     
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    3rd front literally put raw into a coffin and buried it.
     
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    The fate of Govts and leaders is not decided by the miniscule internet army but real voters.
    People like Mamata, Maya,Mulayam, Jaya, MK, Biju, Jagan, CB Naidu, Nitish, Pawar, Gowda are popular among the masses.
    Even if many on DfI or FB do not vote for such leaders, that makes little difference in the real world.
     
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    Gujral was not all of 3rd front.
     
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    popular among masses ??

    Why NONE of them able to inroad in another state ?? If Nitish or Naveen are so popular why they failed to win a single seat in nearby state ?? :wave:

    If DMK is so popular, why it wins with 3/4th majority and next time, fails to win even 1/4th seat ?? That means no Government performed well in T.N. for last few decades ??

    Why regional leader hardly wins election 2 times in a row in their state ??
     
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    Gujral was a disgrace to politics!

    He had no clue of realpolitik1

    Heard of the most idiotic Gujral Doctrine?
     
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    Yes I know.
    But today people like Maya or Mamata,Pawar etc are more pragmatic politicians.
     
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    If only the populace were pragmatic as them!
     
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    Left ruled for 34 years in W.B., but failed to win single LS seat from nearby states Bihar, Jharkhand.

    AIADMK, DMK ruled for 2-3 decades, but failed to win single seat from A.P., Kerala, Karnataka.

    JD(u),RJD, SP, BSP, BJD, TC have stronghold in Bihar, U.P.,Orissa, W.B. but failed to win single LS seat in nearby states.

    SS & NCP have stronghold in Maharashtra but failed to win single seat from Karnataka or Gujarat.

    Same for other regional parties too.

    No one supports these parties outside their state. They get support from specific community or cast or religion or in any case, Its only 1 state be it their work or issues.

    National politics is all about National politics & Interest and not a state.
     

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