Egypt Revolution Developments - Phase 2

[W.G.Ewald]

AFAIK China has privately disclosed to the Israelis that if Egypt cannot guarantee shipping traffic through Suez, then China would not use its UN veto against an Israeli intervention there.

You must be very well connected as regards your sources.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

I read an article recently , were it was stated the Morsi assissted in the planning of the assination/murder of the U.S. ambassador in Libya.Ii wonder if there is any truth in this and whether this is the reason for Morsi being kicked out of Govt? U.S retributuion maybe,

Can you cite the article?

 

[nrupatunga]

AFAIK China has privately disclosed to the Israelis that if Egypt cannot guarantee shipping traffic through Suez, then China would not use its UN veto against an Israeli intervention there.

Suez is an important tradeway for global trade. If canal is not open , then whether one country likes or not (if that is even egypt itself), there will be international force (mostly nato or nato led one) to ensure canal is free for trade. No one will seek any approval from anyone.

 

[t_co]

You must be very well connected as regards your sources.

He is a flag officer in the PLA General Staff Department.

 

[nrupatunga]

The important Q now is whenever the elections are held in egypt, will MB be allowed to run for office??

 

[Ash]

Can you cite the article?

Hi W.G.Will try and find it, but i can't remember where it was that I read it. Will try and source it though and get back to you.

 

[Ash]

Can you cite the article?

Egypt’s Morsi behind murder of U.S. ambassador?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Egypt's Morsi behind murder of U.S. ambassador?

From the WND article:

Circumstantial evidence possibly links the attack to Morsi's campaign to free the so-called blind sheik, Omar Abdel-Rahman, who is serving a life sentence in the U.S. for conspiracy in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

"Circumstantial evidence possible links.." isn't very compelling.

I have never put much faith in "Whirled Nuts Daily." :-D

 

[Ash]

From the WND article:



"Circumstantial evidence possible links.." isn't very compelling.

I have never put much faith in "Whirled Nuts Daily." :-D

Fair enough...although sometimes the truth is known to be found in the strangest of places

 

[nrupatunga]

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood shows signs of fracturing after Morsi's fall

A group of about 1,400 within the Brotherhood have launched a petition of no-confidence in Mohamed Badie, the Supreme Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, known as "Morshid."

In Roman Catholic terms, that would be akin to the faithful voting to impeach Pope Francis.

 

[nrupatunga]

Pro-Mursi protesters are awaiting signal for 'sexual Jihad': report

A fatwa (religious edict) apparently permitting 'sexual jihad' appeared on a Facebook page reportedly affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood (MB), but some have dismissed it as a parody.

The fatwa supposedly came in response to a question by a female Brotherhood supporter asking if 'sexual Jihad' is allowed in Rabea al-Adawiya Square and other squares in Egypt where people have been protesting against Mohammed Mursi's ouster since June 30.

The religious answer appearing on the Facebook page was: "Not now. Let us wait first for what will happen, may God strengthen the Mujahedeen."

"Sexual Jihad" refers to the idea of the female Islamists offering their sexual services to their male counterparts so they remain motivated to continue the struggle for their cause.

Arab daily online newspaper Elaph quoted Muslim Brotherhood member Saif al-Nahi as saying that the Facebook page is part of a smear campaign against the Islamist group that has been ongoing since Mursi's ascension to power.

 

[nrupatunga]

Egypt's Morsi is in good health, says top EU diplomat after meeting

Egypt's Mohammed Morsi is in good health and sends his best wishes to the outside world, European Union diplomat Catherine Ashton said after a two-hour meeting with the deposed president. The meeting, held at an undisclosed location, was Morsi's first known contact with foreign officials after his July 3 overthrow by the country's military.

She said the deposed leader had access to television and newspapers when she visited him and was aware of developments in the country. "I've tried to make sure that his family know he is well,'' Ashton told journalists following the meeting.

 

[nrupatunga]

Kerry: Army's ouster of Egypt's president was not a military takeover

Kerry said the army "did not take over." "The military was asked to intervene by millions and millions of people, all of whom were afraid of a descendance into chaos, into violence," he told GEO TV. And the military did not take over, to the best of our judgment so - so far," he added.

Gehad El Haddad, a Muslim Brotherhood spokesman, said he had not expected any help from the U.S. and believed Washington was "complicit in the military coup" and noted American support for ousted strongman Hosni Mubarak's "dictatorship."

"Is it the job of the army to restore democracy? Does Secretary Kerry accept Defense Secretary Hagel to step in and remove Obama if large protests take place in America? Will the U.S. army freeze the constitution and dismantle congress and senate? Can they appoint a president that they solely choose?" he said.

 

[t_co]

At least 124 killed as security forces swoop on pro-Morsi protesters in Cairo - The Times of India

CAIRO: Security forces on Wednesday stormed two huge Cairo protest camps occupied for weeks by supporters of Egypt's ousted president Mohamed Morsi, leaving at least 124 people dead in a crackdown that turned into a bloodbath.

As clashes raged in the capital, three churches were attacked in central Egypt, with Christian activists accusing Morsi loyalists of waging "a war of retaliation against Copts in Egypt".

Hours after the first tear gas canisters rained down on tents of protesters in the sprawling Rabaa al-Adawiya camp in east Cairo, an AFP correspondent counted at least 124 bodies in makeshift morgues.

In a field hospital, its floors slippery with blood, doctors struggled to cope with the casualties, leaving the hopeless cases, even if still alive. The Muslim Brotherhood, from which Morsi emerged, said that 2,200 people had been killed and over 10,000 injured as authorities confirmed 56 deaths in Wednesday's violence.

Security officials had spoken of a gradual dispersal of the sit-ins over several days but the dramatic descent on the squares shortly after dawn came as a surprise to many. Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's main seat of learning, which sided with the military in its overthrow of Morsi on July 3, distanced itself from the crackdown.

"Al-Azhar stresses to all Egyptians that it did not know about the methods used for the dispersal of the protests except through media channels," Grand Imam Ahmed al-Tayyeb said in a televised statement.

Witnesses and an AFP correspondent said after firing tear gas security forces surged into Rabaa al-Adawiya, sparking pandemonium among the thousands of protesters who had set up the camp soon after Morsi was ousted.

Men in gas masks rushed to grab each canister and dunk them in containers of water, as the main stage near the mosque of the camp blared Islamic anthems and protesters chanted "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest).

Clashes quickly erupted between protesters and security forces on the outskirts of the camp, with automatic fire reverberating across the square. Protest leaders wearing gas masks stood defiantly on a stage while crowds of people wearing face masks stood amid the swirling tear gas as bulldozers began dismantling the camp.

In the smaller of the protest camps at Al-Nahda square in central Cairo, police said they took control of the square after two hours. Television footage showed flattened tents, as women and children flanked by police and army troops were led out of the square.

Dozens rounded up in the dispersal were shown sitting on the ground, handcuffed and surrounded by security forces. The violence came amid international appeals for calm.

Berlin called on all sides to renounce violence and return to negotiations and Britain, Iran and Qatar condemned the use of force by Egyptian police.

It was a dramatic turn of events for the Muslim Brotherhood, who just over a year ago celebrated Morsi's win as Egypt's first elected president. But his turbulent year in power, marred by political turmoil, deadly clashes and a crippling economic crisis, turned many against the Islamist movement.

On June 30, millions took to the streets to call on the army to remove Morsi.

Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood urged Egyptians to take to the streets in their thousands to denounce the "massacre". "This is not an attempt to disperse, but a bloody attempt to crush all voices of opposition to the military coup," Brotherhood spokesman Gehad al-Haddad said on Twitter.

The Rabaa al-Adawiya protest camp, where several Brotherhood leaders had been staying, "is calling on Egyptians to take to the streets to stop the massacre," Haddad said. However, the anger against the Islamist movement was evident Wednesday as residents of several neighbourhoods clashed with Morsi loyalists.

In Cairo, supporters of the deposed president blocked several roads in the central Mohandesseen neighbourhood, and were working to set up a new protest camp there, witnesses said. Police were deployed in the area where tear gas was fired and gunshots heard.

Clashes also erupted between security forces and Morsi loyalists in the northern provinces of Alexandria and Beheira, the canal provinces of Suez and Ismailiya and the central provinces of Assiut and Menya.

In Menya, witnesses said the Saint Ibram and Virgin Mary church and the Saint Mina church were torched.

Assailants also threw firebombs at Mar Gergiss church in Sohag, a city with a large community of Coptic Christians who comprise up to 10 percent of Egypt's 84 million people, causing it to burn down, the agency said.

Coptic Pope Tawadros II, together with Al-Azhar's Tayyeb, had supported the military and sat by army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi when he announced that Morsi had been deposed and laid out a new political roadmap for the country.

As authorities struggled to contain the unrest in the country, Egypt's railway authorities announced that all trains had been grounded to prevent protesters from moving outside of Cairo and reassembling.

Wednesday's crackdown came just hours after the United States urged the military-backed interim government to allow Morsi supporters to protest freely.

The United States, which provides $1.5 billion in mostly military aid to Egypt every year, maintains close ties to the Egyptian military but says it favours a rapid return to elected civilian rule.

Both the casualty count and the fact that the army is leading the suppressions are eerily reminiscent of Tiananmen. The key differences here are that the dead do not have international sympathy and the killers are firing ordnance which is essentially American military aid.

 

[nrupatunga]

White House condemns crackdown in Egypt

Mohammed El-bardei resigns

Also as per this source the count is now 149.

 

[amoy]

Democratically elected president was overthrown, military dictatorship regained power?

But the US' aid continues to Egypt

 

[t_co]

Democratically elected president was overthrown, military dictatorship regained power?

But the US' aid continues to Egypt

"US manufactured missiles, and M-16s
Weapons contracts and corrupted American dreams"

 

[dhananjay1]

It's funny to see Islamists crying out for being punished to be democratic.

 

[The Messiah]

The army should crush them without any mercy. Go door to door and kill them otherwise these scum will make egypt like syria.

 

[nrupatunga]

Hosni mubarak may be soon freed from jail as court drops corruption case