DRDO Phalcon style AWACS

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  1. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    It is not yet clear what the refuelling plane is designed to refuel and how much fuel is there in it. Can it refuel a large number if fighter aircrafts or only the escort aircraft that escort it?
     
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    Airbus A330 MRTT
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    Airliners mainly store their fuel (for self use) in their wings and near fuselage-wing fixtures.
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    You can find a lot of extra space than fuel storage, can be used for various purpose including paramedical, troop carrier, passenger, cargo etc etc
    We can also use that place for AWACS configuration.

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    AEW&Cs can stay longer duration in the air, but that is not the same case with the escort aircrafts.

    Usually flankers will be the escort aircrafts for the AEW&Cs. Flankers can stay for 3 hrs in flight, while AWW&Cs stay longer. If AEW&C's refuel the flankers in mid air, then flankers also will stay longer in the threat area. All of them can act as a team to scan the area and leave together when another team of similar configuration takes up the scanning task

    When I first researched about our AEW&C's and tankers, I thought it would be funny if AEW&C's can refuel at least the protection aircraft.

    I am excited to see this happening. I also wish to have sat connection to our AEW&C systems (I am not sure if it already exists)
     
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    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    There is a lot of difference in AEW&CS and AWACS.
    AEW&CS is based on a business jet , hence not able to store extra fuel packs and refuelling system but AWACS can.
    A330 MRTT is way bigger than IAF's il-78...
     
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    I thought AEW&C and AWACS both are same.

    Airborne Early Warning and Control systems.

    Both use high frequencies to detect enemy threats at very long distance (around 400 km). That's where the curvature of Earth comes and we don't get a clear picture.

    Both are used to guide friendly fighters to destroy enemy threats.

    Did I miss anything....it was over 5yrs ago I did my study on the IL 76s
     
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    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    Both names looks quite same but have different in operations.

    AEW&CS
    1.Watch this official video to get exact idea about it.
    2. It has lesser scanning range of 250kms (but can do upto 300kms)
    3. Should have to fly in perpendicular to the fighter jet direction (or area of operation) or simply parallel to border.
    4. Have 240* of scanning coverage (120* on each side) and can't perform missions while moving in the direction of fighter jets.
    5. Similar aircrafts are saab eyerie

    AWACS
    1. It has scanning range of 400kms (for phalon) and coverage in all direction i.e. 360*
    2. Have no problem in assisting fighter jets while moving in any direction.
    3. Can perform COMINT & ELINT mission way better than Aew&cs.


    All in all, in simple words, we can say that AWACS are improved variant of AEW&CS.
     
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    Here is the link to clear the air between AEW&CS and AWACS:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_early_warning_and_control

    It says that AWACS is the name of a specific system made by NATO. It is like the difference between photocopy and Xerox. Xerox is a company while photocopy is the actual term. Same way, AEW&CS is the term and AWACS is the designation of NATO system
     
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