Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by H.A., Jul 10, 2012.
Raksha Mantri visit at Pokhran range ..
GIF on DRDO-TATA-KALYANI, 155X52mm ATAGS ..
Indigenous artillery gun ATAGS to undergo winter trials in Sikkim
The 155mm 52-calibre ATAGS set a record during trials in Rajasthan’s Pokhran in September, firing shells to a range of 48 km.
A locally made gun is set to undergo crucial trials in January at a time when the army has sharpened its focus on its long-delayed artillery modernisation programme.
The indigenous 155mm 52-calibre Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS), jointly developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the private sector, will kick off winter trials in the Sikkim sector, a senior army officer said.
The ATAGS set a record during trials in Rajasthan’s Pokhran in September, firing shells to a range of 48 km, against army’s requirement of 40 km.
The defence ministry sanctioned the ATAGS project in September 2012 and the DRDO has partnered with Bharat Forge and Tata Power (Strategic Engineering Division) SED to develop two prototypes of the towed artillery guns.
The two prototypes underwent their maiden structural stability trials in December 2016 at Proof & Experimental Establishment, a government test facility at Balasore in Odisha.
A letter of intent has been given to the DRDO for 150 ATAGS, an army source said.
The value of DRDO-developed/upgraded systems inducted into the armed forces during the last three years stands at Rs 1.1 lakh crore, the government told Lok Sabha on Wednesday. These systems do not include strategic weapons.
The army’s field artillery rationalisation plan (FARP), cleared in 1999, lays down the roadmap for inducting new 155mm weaponry, including tracked self-propelled guns, truck-mounted gun systems, towed artillery pieces and wheeled self-propelled guns.
The Rs 50,000-crore FARP seeks to equip 169 artillery regiments with a mix of nearly 3,000 guns over the next decade.
The army is looking to induct another indigenously developed 155mm 45-calibre towed artillery gun called Dhanush. But the programme has been delayed as the gun was involved in mishaps during trials. (Here, 155 mm denotes the diameter of the shell and calibre relates to barrel length.)
The force is awaiting a report on an accident involving its new M777 ultra-light howitzer. The BAE Systems-manufactured gun was partly damaged when a 155mm artillery round misfired and exploded in its barrel during a drill at the Pokhran firing ranges in September.
The M777 order is the first contract for artillery guns in almost 30 years after the Bofors scandal unfolded in the late 1980s. India signed the Rs 5,000-crore deal with the US in November 2016 for 145 howitzers.
Winter trial for ATAGS comimg
Anyway, the production of a limited series batch of about 40 units of the @DRDO_India developed ATAGS 155mm/52 caliber howitzer has been given the go ahead. Order's worth around $140 million.
Why waste ammunition testing it in Sikkim. We should test live in actual war like condition in Jammu & Kashmir at LOC. At least this way ammunition won't be wasted as we can ROAST a few PORKS across the border.
On the LOC we need fully operational Guns
with Range Tables ; Firing Tables all ready
and the Crew fully Proficient
Here they have to carry out many tests with DRDO scientists
along with them
ATGS CLEARS WINTER TRIALS WITH FLYING COLORS .
Who will be manufacturing these ATGS? TATA or Bharat forge or OFB?
Still no answers about OFB made Dhanush which was failing due to Muzzle Break issues. This is otherwise a very reliable and cheaper gun. It is as effective as any in its category.
OFB was short changed by German company with Chinese ownership who procured the part from a substandard shop in China and put a 'Made in German' name tag.
Bharat Forge and TATAs will produce ATAGS, OFB will produce Dhanush series.
dhanush will be back soon .....for user trial ...
I have asked INDRA about it and they say it's Baba Kalyani for sure, dont know if TATA will produce its version. OFB is not even in the picture, it's producing Dhanush.
Winning design will be selected and will be produced by both. As @Shaitan pointed out, Dhanush will be made by OFB.
Right, dual production program like Tata, l&t does with pinaka and Akash.
I found out accidentally that there was a third ATAGS as well....forget it's name, can anyone have any info?
You are talking about Dhanush 52. It is not under ATAGS programme. Its independent upgradation programe of Dhanush or FH77 haubits.
Kalyani Bharat 52 with Elbit auto loader.
Does Dhanush use indigenous autoloader? If yes, then why can't OFB design an autoloader for ATAGS?
OFB gun and ATAGS both have Bofors FH77 type loading. While Bofors have 3 round burst, ATAGS have 6 round burst.
Kalyani have shown intent to have Elbit's Magazine loading system, I don't know If Army is happy with that but they did mention that they are looking for auto-loader, could be a more automatic loading system than what FH77 Bofors offers.
Here you can see the difference, TATA gun is vanilla FH77 loading, Kalyani gun has Elbit loader.
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