Donald Trump says US prepared to go it alone on North Korea nuclear threat
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China didn't need pakistan and they won't. What China fails to understand is that India does not want any confrontation with anyone. If China stops meddling with India on border and other issues, the relations between the two will increase dramatically.
If you are looking to use pakistan as a buffer to counter India, you are wrong. All you need to do is stop messing with India and you won't even feel the need for a buffer like that.
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CCP sees territorial expansion as a part of its strategy to access both the Caspian Sea and the Indian Ocean.
While its structure is communist, it still lives in the imperial times where emperors deemed territorial expansion as a mark of the rise of a superpower and a status symbol among countries.
The only way, CCP can acquire land without garnering any attention is to stealthily encroach inch by inch through infrastructure and road building on un-patrolled and desolate border points. This way it keeps a low profile and at the same time conquers its enemy through silently acting.
Both Bhutan and India are familiar so finally under a more muscular government we have reacted to it. But the same issue remains with China in Central Asian countries as well. The only way to push them back is to not let them encroach more land.
Taking land back will be difficult unless something drastic happens within Chinese polity, such as a more rational reformation of the party which realises that it has more opportunity to gain along with India than against India.
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US admiral stands ready to obey a Trump nuclear strike order
Highlights
CANBERRA: The
US Pacific Fleet
commander said on Thursday he would launch a nuclear strike against China next week if President
Donald Trump
ordered it, and warned against the military ever shifting its allegiance from its commander in chief.
Adm Scott Swift was responding to a hypothetical question at an Australian National University security conference following a major joint US-Australian military exercise+ off the Australian coast. The drills were monitored by a Chinese intelligence-gathering ship off northeast Australia.
Asked by an academic in the audience whether he would make a nuclear attack on China next week if Trump ordered it, Swift replied: "The answer would be: yes."
"Every member of the US military has sworn an oath to defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic and to obey the officers and the president of the United States as commander and chief appointed over us," Swift said.
"This is core to the American democracy and any time you have a military that is moving away from a focus and an allegiance to civilian control, then we really have a significant problem," he added.
Pacific Fleet spokesman Capt Charlie Brown later said Swift's answer reaffirmed the principle of civilian control over the military.
"The admiral was not addressing the premise of the question, he was addressing the principle of civilian authority of the military," Brown said. "The premise of the question was ridiculous."
The biennial Talisman Saber exercise involved 36 warships including the aircraft carrier USS
Ronald Reagan
, 220 aircraft and 33,000 military personnel.
It was monitored by a Chinese People's Liberation Army-Navy Type 815 Dongdiao-class auxiliary general intelligence vessel from within Australia's 200-mile exclusive economic zone.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...nuclear-strike-order/articleshow/59787537.cms
Highlights
- A US defence official said he make nuke China if President Trump ordered it.
- Adm Scott Swift said all US military officers are sworn an oath to defend the constitution.
- Adm Scott Swift is the commander of the US Pacific Fleet.
CANBERRA: The
US Pacific Fleet
commander said on Thursday he would launch a nuclear strike against China next week if President
Donald Trump
ordered it, and warned against the military ever shifting its allegiance from its commander in chief.
Adm Scott Swift was responding to a hypothetical question at an Australian National University security conference following a major joint US-Australian military exercise+ off the Australian coast. The drills were monitored by a Chinese intelligence-gathering ship off northeast Australia.
Asked by an academic in the audience whether he would make a nuclear attack on China next week if Trump ordered it, Swift replied: "The answer would be: yes."
"Every member of the US military has sworn an oath to defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic and to obey the officers and the president of the United States as commander and chief appointed over us," Swift said.
"This is core to the American democracy and any time you have a military that is moving away from a focus and an allegiance to civilian control, then we really have a significant problem," he added.
Pacific Fleet spokesman Capt Charlie Brown later said Swift's answer reaffirmed the principle of civilian control over the military.
"The admiral was not addressing the premise of the question, he was addressing the principle of civilian authority of the military," Brown said. "The premise of the question was ridiculous."
The biennial Talisman Saber exercise involved 36 warships including the aircraft carrier USS
Ronald Reagan
, 220 aircraft and 33,000 military personnel.
It was monitored by a Chinese People's Liberation Army-Navy Type 815 Dongdiao-class auxiliary general intelligence vessel from within Australia's 200-mile exclusive economic zone.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...nuclear-strike-order/articleshow/59787537.cms
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I read this yesterday. Think this is all a pressure tactic to subdue china and to make them back off from dolam, stop supporting NKo, stop military mob in SCS.
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Yes, I know: India doesn't want any confrontation with anyone but kicking out anyone who doesn't agree with her. Your "Forward policy" taught us how peaceful you are.
Usa need to get it out Nk from its clear seas. I suspect by next year , war on NK rhetoric will be advanced.
If war between usa vs NK happens. Korea will be united. And china suffers a lot. And if (any way it does) china involved covertly in this hypothetical war. The new world order dramatically shifts Indian peninsula and korea.
Which will have devastating effect on china manufacturing sector ,relocated to Indian markets along with usa one world order deals.
War between NK vs usa is good for us, and really good for china neighbouring countries. Its simply End of china hegemony.
China has only one way out( let go NK ) to save itself from this mess.
If war between usa vs NK happens. Korea will be united. And china suffers a lot. And if (any way it does) china involved covertly in this hypothetical war. The new world order dramatically shifts Indian peninsula and korea.
Which will have devastating effect on china manufacturing sector ,relocated to Indian markets along with usa one world order deals.
War between NK vs usa is good for us, and really good for china neighbouring countries. Its simply End of china hegemony.
China has only one way out( let go NK ) to save itself from this mess.
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North Korea tests another ICBM, claims all of U.S. in strike range
Jack Kim and Idrees Ali
JULY 28, 2017
SEOUL/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - North Korea said on Saturday it had conducted another successful test of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) that proved its ability to strike all of America's mainland, drawing a sharp warning from U.S. President Donald Trump and a rebuke from China.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un personally supervised the midnight launch of the missile on Friday night and said it was a "stern warning" for the United States that it would not be safe from destruction if it tries to attack, the North's official KCNA news agency said.
"The test-fire reconfirmed the reliability of the ICBM system, demonstrated the capability of making a surprise launch of the ICBM in any region and place any time, and clearly proved that the whole U.S. mainland is in the firing range of the DPRK missiles, (Kim) said with pride," KCNA said.
DPRK is short for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
The launch comes less than a month after the North conducted its first ICBM test in defiance of years of efforts led by the United States, South Korea and Japan to rein in Pyongyang's nuclear weapons ambitions.
The North conducted its fourth and fifth nuclear test last year and has engaged in an unprecedented pace of missile development that experts said significantly advanced its ability to launch longer-range ballistic missiles.
"By threatening the world, these weapons and tests further isolate North Korea, weaken its economy, and deprive its people," Trump said in a statement. "The United States will take all necessary steps to ensure the security of the American homeland and protect our allies in the region."
China, the North's main ally, said it opposed North Korea's "launch activities that run counter to Security Council resolutions and the common wishes of the international community."
A foreign ministry statement added: "At the same time, China hopes all parties act with caution, to prevent tensions from continuing to escalate, to jointly protect regional peace and stability."
Early on Saturday, the United States and South Korea conducted a live-fire ballistic missile exercise in a display of firepower in response to the missile launch, the U.S. and South Korean militaries said.
The Trump administration has said that all options are on the table to deal with North Korea. However it has also made clear that diplomacy and sanctions are its preferred course.
Following a meeting of South Korea's National Security Council, South Korean President Moon Jae-in said he wanted the U.N. Security Council to discuss new and stronger sanctions against the North, the presidential Blue House said.
South Korea has also said it will proceed with the deployment of four additional units of the U.S. THAAD anti-missile defense system that Moon has earlier delayed for an environmental assessment.
The missile test came a day after the U.S. Senate approved a package of sanctions on North Korea, Russia and Iran. Trump is ready to sign the bill, the White House said on Friday.
The sanctions are likely to include measures aimed at Chinese financial institutions that do business with North Korea. Washington has also proposed a new round of U.N. sanctions on North Korea following its July 4 ICBM test.
"Reliable ICBM by Year-End"
In Friday's test, North Korea's Hwasong-14 missile, named after the Korean word for Mars, reached an altitude of 3,724.9 km and flew 998 km for 47 minutes and 12 seconds before landing in the waters off the Korean peninsula's east coast, KCNA said.
Western experts said it was an improvement on North Korea's first test of an ICBM.
The flight demonstrated successful stage separation, reliability of the vehicle's control and guidance to allow the warhead to make an atmospheric re-entry under conditions harsher than under a normal long-range trajectory, KCNA said.
The trajectory was in line with the estimates given by the South Korean, U.S. and Japanese militaries, which said the missile was believed to be an ICBM-class rocket.
Independent weapons experts said the launch demonstrated many parts of the United States were within range if the missile had been launched at a flattened trajectory.
Jeffrey Lewis of the California-based Middlebury Institute of International Studies said the launch showed Los Angeles was within range of a North Korean missile, with Chicago, New York and Washington, just out of reach.
"They may not have demonstrated the full range. The computer models suggest it can hit all of those targets," he said.
The U.S.-based Union of Concerned Scientists said its calculations showed the missile could have been capable of going as far into the United States as Denver and Chicago.
Michael Elleman of the International Institute for Strategic Studies said the window for a diplomatic solution with North Korea "is closing rapidly."
"The key here is that North Korea has a second successful test in less than one month," he said. "If this trend holds, they could establish an acceptably reliable ICBM before year's end."
John Schilling, an aerospace expert and a contributor to 38 North, a Washington-based North Korea monitoring website, said the improved performance over the previous test could have been the result of a lighter payload as part of an effort to demonstrate that the missile could hit the U.S. capital.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSKBN1AD1ZB
Jack Kim and Idrees Ali
JULY 28, 2017
SEOUL/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - North Korea said on Saturday it had conducted another successful test of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) that proved its ability to strike all of America's mainland, drawing a sharp warning from U.S. President Donald Trump and a rebuke from China.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un personally supervised the midnight launch of the missile on Friday night and said it was a "stern warning" for the United States that it would not be safe from destruction if it tries to attack, the North's official KCNA news agency said.
"The test-fire reconfirmed the reliability of the ICBM system, demonstrated the capability of making a surprise launch of the ICBM in any region and place any time, and clearly proved that the whole U.S. mainland is in the firing range of the DPRK missiles, (Kim) said with pride," KCNA said.
DPRK is short for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
The launch comes less than a month after the North conducted its first ICBM test in defiance of years of efforts led by the United States, South Korea and Japan to rein in Pyongyang's nuclear weapons ambitions.
The North conducted its fourth and fifth nuclear test last year and has engaged in an unprecedented pace of missile development that experts said significantly advanced its ability to launch longer-range ballistic missiles.
"By threatening the world, these weapons and tests further isolate North Korea, weaken its economy, and deprive its people," Trump said in a statement. "The United States will take all necessary steps to ensure the security of the American homeland and protect our allies in the region."
China, the North's main ally, said it opposed North Korea's "launch activities that run counter to Security Council resolutions and the common wishes of the international community."
A foreign ministry statement added: "At the same time, China hopes all parties act with caution, to prevent tensions from continuing to escalate, to jointly protect regional peace and stability."
Early on Saturday, the United States and South Korea conducted a live-fire ballistic missile exercise in a display of firepower in response to the missile launch, the U.S. and South Korean militaries said.
The Trump administration has said that all options are on the table to deal with North Korea. However it has also made clear that diplomacy and sanctions are its preferred course.
Following a meeting of South Korea's National Security Council, South Korean President Moon Jae-in said he wanted the U.N. Security Council to discuss new and stronger sanctions against the North, the presidential Blue House said.
South Korea has also said it will proceed with the deployment of four additional units of the U.S. THAAD anti-missile defense system that Moon has earlier delayed for an environmental assessment.
The missile test came a day after the U.S. Senate approved a package of sanctions on North Korea, Russia and Iran. Trump is ready to sign the bill, the White House said on Friday.
The sanctions are likely to include measures aimed at Chinese financial institutions that do business with North Korea. Washington has also proposed a new round of U.N. sanctions on North Korea following its July 4 ICBM test.
"Reliable ICBM by Year-End"
In Friday's test, North Korea's Hwasong-14 missile, named after the Korean word for Mars, reached an altitude of 3,724.9 km and flew 998 km for 47 minutes and 12 seconds before landing in the waters off the Korean peninsula's east coast, KCNA said.
Western experts said it was an improvement on North Korea's first test of an ICBM.
The flight demonstrated successful stage separation, reliability of the vehicle's control and guidance to allow the warhead to make an atmospheric re-entry under conditions harsher than under a normal long-range trajectory, KCNA said.
The trajectory was in line with the estimates given by the South Korean, U.S. and Japanese militaries, which said the missile was believed to be an ICBM-class rocket.
Independent weapons experts said the launch demonstrated many parts of the United States were within range if the missile had been launched at a flattened trajectory.
Jeffrey Lewis of the California-based Middlebury Institute of International Studies said the launch showed Los Angeles was within range of a North Korean missile, with Chicago, New York and Washington, just out of reach.
"They may not have demonstrated the full range. The computer models suggest it can hit all of those targets," he said.
The U.S.-based Union of Concerned Scientists said its calculations showed the missile could have been capable of going as far into the United States as Denver and Chicago.
Michael Elleman of the International Institute for Strategic Studies said the window for a diplomatic solution with North Korea "is closing rapidly."
"The key here is that North Korea has a second successful test in less than one month," he said. "If this trend holds, they could establish an acceptably reliable ICBM before year's end."
John Schilling, an aerospace expert and a contributor to 38 North, a Washington-based North Korea monitoring website, said the improved performance over the previous test could have been the result of a lighter payload as part of an effort to demonstrate that the missile could hit the U.S. capital.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSKBN1AD1ZB
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A guy who believes in Mao's "peaceful" killings and falun gong persecution is teaching me about peace. Need I say more?
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can say doklam impact on world.....Chinese shown many weaknesses like 1)they cant sacrifice economic growth for war. 2)they are very immature n there defense mambo jumbo is only show pic without any real experience 3) if someone changes rule of game in middle then from ppl in front to core of CPC everyone comes in panic n dont know how to handle things and what to do.
So now the real game starts.....
So now the real game starts.....
China bets U.S. won’t carry out strike against North Korea
BLOOMBERG
Chinese President Xi Jinping inspects troops during a military parade in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region. | CCTV / VIA KYODO
HONG KONG/BEIJING – China is betting that U.S. President Donald Trump won’t make good on his threats of a military strike against North Korea, with Beijing continuing to provide a lifeline to Kim Jong Un’s regime.
U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson singled out China and Russia as “economic enablers” of North Korea after Kim on Friday test-fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the second time in a matter of weeks. While Tillerson said the U.S. wants a peaceful resolution to the tensions, the top American general called his South Korean counterpart after the launch to discuss a potential military response.
China on Saturday condemned the latest test while calling for restraint from all parties, a muted reaction to Pyongyang’s progress on an ICBM that is capable of hitting the U.S. mainland. Despite Kim’s provocations, analysts said that Beijing still sees the collapse of his regime as a more immediate strategic threat and doubts that Trump would pull the trigger, given the risk of a war with North Korea that could kill millions.
“The military option the Americans are threatening won’t likely happen because the stakes will be too high,” said Liu Ming, director of the Korean Peninsula Research Center at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences. “It’s a pretext and an excuse to pile up pressure on China. It’s more like blackmail than a realistic option.”
Relations between the world’s biggest economies have soured after an initial honeymoon between Trump and President Xi Jinping. The U.S. last month sanctioned a regional Chinese bank, a shipping company and two Chinese citizens over dealings with North Korea, which could be a precursor to greater economic and financial pressure on Beijing to rein in its errant neighbor.
Trump has expressed periodic public frustration with Beijing over the pace of its efforts to curtail Kim. On Saturday he again linked China’s actions to the broader U.S.-China trade relationship.
“I am very disappointed in China,” he said in a series of Twitter posts. “Our foolish past leaders have allowed them to make hundreds of billions of dollars a year in trade, yet they do NOTHING for us with North Korea, just talk. We will no longer allow this to continue. China could easily solve this problem!”
Hours later, Xi called on China to speed up its military modernization, telling troops at an army parade that “the world isn’t safe at this moment.”
“A strong army is needed now more than ever,” he said, without specifically addressing North Korea or Trump’s comments.
China’s biggest fears related to North Korea remain a collapse of Kim’s regime that sparks a protracted refugee crisis, and also a beefed-up U.S. military presence on its border.
It has repeatedly called for both sides to step back, proposing that the U.S. halt military drills in the region and that North Korea freeze weapons tests. The U.S. has dismissed that proposal, saying North Korea must first be willing to discuss rolling back its nuclear program.
On Saturday, the U.S. announced that two U.S. Air Force B-1B bombers conducted bilateral exercises with South Korean and Japanese fighter jets in response to the ICBM test.
North Korea is “probably correct” in its view that it can survive sanctions long enough to build its arsenal to the point where the world has to accept it as a nuclear state, according to Andrew Gilholm, director of North Asia analysis at Control Risks Group. The U.S. is likely to make a “dramatic move” this year against China in a bid to stop that from happening, he said.
“If the U.S. really loses patience and moves against major Chinese banks or firms, it will certainly impact North Korea’s financing, but I don’t see Beijing making a radical policy change under that kind of pressure,” Gilholm said from Seoul. “It’ll likely harden China’s insistence that Washington has to deal with Pyongyang, not coerce China into strangling it.”
China’s relations with its neighbor and ally have become more fraught, though China still accounts for about 90 percent of North Korea’s trade. North Korea warned China of “grave consequences” earlier this year after it banned coal imports, while Beijing’s Communist Party media stepped up criticism of Kim’s regime.
The latest ICBM test also risks boosting tensions between China and South Korea over a missile shield.
Seoul has partially installed a U.S. system known as THAAD despite Chinese protests. It had halted that rollout under the new administration of President Moon Jae-in, but after the ICBM test Moon called for talks with the U.S. on temporarily deploying more launchers. China warned on Saturday that THAAD would disrupt the region’s strategic balance.
Despite the disagreement over THAAD, on the whole China probably prefers Moon to the conservative government he replaced in May. Since taking office, Moon has sought to engage North Korea, calling for peace talks and saying he will meet Kim under the right conditions.
Moon’s dovish views on North Korea make it likely he will oppose a U.S. missile strike on North Korea. U.S. Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also warned in June that an armed conflict with North Korea would leave Seoul facing casualties “unlike anything we’ve seen in 60 or 70 years.”
As relations with the U.S. cool, China has boosted ties with Russia. The countries blocked U.S.-led efforts to expand penalties against North Korea in a draft U.N. Security Council resolution condemning its first ICBM test on July 4. Those ties are likely to strengthen after Trump said he would tighten sanctions on Russia for meddling in the U.S. election and aggression in Ukraine.
To placate Trump, China will likely take some moderate measures against North Korea without doing anything that could collapse the regime, said Gilholm from Control Risks.
“China has a lot of room to step up pressure on Pyongyang while staying well short of a really destabilizing cutoff,” he said. “Personally I don’t think North Korea is going to roll over and give up its nuclear survival card even under a life-threatening level of economic pressure.”
BLOOMBERG
Chinese President Xi Jinping inspects troops during a military parade in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region. | CCTV / VIA KYODO
HONG KONG/BEIJING – China is betting that U.S. President Donald Trump won’t make good on his threats of a military strike against North Korea, with Beijing continuing to provide a lifeline to Kim Jong Un’s regime.
U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson singled out China and Russia as “economic enablers” of North Korea after Kim on Friday test-fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the second time in a matter of weeks. While Tillerson said the U.S. wants a peaceful resolution to the tensions, the top American general called his South Korean counterpart after the launch to discuss a potential military response.
China on Saturday condemned the latest test while calling for restraint from all parties, a muted reaction to Pyongyang’s progress on an ICBM that is capable of hitting the U.S. mainland. Despite Kim’s provocations, analysts said that Beijing still sees the collapse of his regime as a more immediate strategic threat and doubts that Trump would pull the trigger, given the risk of a war with North Korea that could kill millions.
“The military option the Americans are threatening won’t likely happen because the stakes will be too high,” said Liu Ming, director of the Korean Peninsula Research Center at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences. “It’s a pretext and an excuse to pile up pressure on China. It’s more like blackmail than a realistic option.”
Relations between the world’s biggest economies have soured after an initial honeymoon between Trump and President Xi Jinping. The U.S. last month sanctioned a regional Chinese bank, a shipping company and two Chinese citizens over dealings with North Korea, which could be a precursor to greater economic and financial pressure on Beijing to rein in its errant neighbor.
Trump has expressed periodic public frustration with Beijing over the pace of its efforts to curtail Kim. On Saturday he again linked China’s actions to the broader U.S.-China trade relationship.
“I am very disappointed in China,” he said in a series of Twitter posts. “Our foolish past leaders have allowed them to make hundreds of billions of dollars a year in trade, yet they do NOTHING for us with North Korea, just talk. We will no longer allow this to continue. China could easily solve this problem!”
Hours later, Xi called on China to speed up its military modernization, telling troops at an army parade that “the world isn’t safe at this moment.”
“A strong army is needed now more than ever,” he said, without specifically addressing North Korea or Trump’s comments.
China’s biggest fears related to North Korea remain a collapse of Kim’s regime that sparks a protracted refugee crisis, and also a beefed-up U.S. military presence on its border.
It has repeatedly called for both sides to step back, proposing that the U.S. halt military drills in the region and that North Korea freeze weapons tests. The U.S. has dismissed that proposal, saying North Korea must first be willing to discuss rolling back its nuclear program.
On Saturday, the U.S. announced that two U.S. Air Force B-1B bombers conducted bilateral exercises with South Korean and Japanese fighter jets in response to the ICBM test.
North Korea is “probably correct” in its view that it can survive sanctions long enough to build its arsenal to the point where the world has to accept it as a nuclear state, according to Andrew Gilholm, director of North Asia analysis at Control Risks Group. The U.S. is likely to make a “dramatic move” this year against China in a bid to stop that from happening, he said.
“If the U.S. really loses patience and moves against major Chinese banks or firms, it will certainly impact North Korea’s financing, but I don’t see Beijing making a radical policy change under that kind of pressure,” Gilholm said from Seoul. “It’ll likely harden China’s insistence that Washington has to deal with Pyongyang, not coerce China into strangling it.”
China’s relations with its neighbor and ally have become more fraught, though China still accounts for about 90 percent of North Korea’s trade. North Korea warned China of “grave consequences” earlier this year after it banned coal imports, while Beijing’s Communist Party media stepped up criticism of Kim’s regime.
The latest ICBM test also risks boosting tensions between China and South Korea over a missile shield.
Seoul has partially installed a U.S. system known as THAAD despite Chinese protests. It had halted that rollout under the new administration of President Moon Jae-in, but after the ICBM test Moon called for talks with the U.S. on temporarily deploying more launchers. China warned on Saturday that THAAD would disrupt the region’s strategic balance.
Despite the disagreement over THAAD, on the whole China probably prefers Moon to the conservative government he replaced in May. Since taking office, Moon has sought to engage North Korea, calling for peace talks and saying he will meet Kim under the right conditions.
Moon’s dovish views on North Korea make it likely he will oppose a U.S. missile strike on North Korea. U.S. Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also warned in June that an armed conflict with North Korea would leave Seoul facing casualties “unlike anything we’ve seen in 60 or 70 years.”
As relations with the U.S. cool, China has boosted ties with Russia. The countries blocked U.S.-led efforts to expand penalties against North Korea in a draft U.N. Security Council resolution condemning its first ICBM test on July 4. Those ties are likely to strengthen after Trump said he would tighten sanctions on Russia for meddling in the U.S. election and aggression in Ukraine.
To placate Trump, China will likely take some moderate measures against North Korea without doing anything that could collapse the regime, said Gilholm from Control Risks.
“China has a lot of room to step up pressure on Pyongyang while staying well short of a really destabilizing cutoff,” he said. “Personally I don’t think North Korea is going to roll over and give up its nuclear survival card even under a life-threatening level of economic pressure.”
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If US feels threatened by North Korea why wouldn't there be a strike ? Who cares what commie Chinese think we all know they are supporting North Korea and could not careless what the commies bet or think.
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You don't need to say more, changing the topic shows you get nothing more to say.
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First round is not over yet....
withdrawal or further escalation, we will have to wait and see....
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Why should I say anything more when you didnt even pay attention to the first thing I said?
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1st round got over with north Korea's missile test......UK , US Naval Battle groups all ready heading towards South china sea......now focus shifting towards Korea. so doing anything on indian side now will be great mistake.
even Chinese media are also now down playing stand off
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like i said, Round 1 not over yet....
#Breaking: #Chinese incursion in #Uttarakhand, India in Barahoti, Chamoli district - Sources
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thats nothing new.....we registered average 300/yr cases of violations by Chinese side......and if china wants to attack then they have to attack only at doklam.....hitting any other place in india will call for full scale war.....and chinkys are not jihadis like porky
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The thing is its crawling up the escalation ladder.
Thats the highlight.
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First accusing me of having no open mind to your words, now saying I am not paying attention to your words, aren't you contradicting yourselves?
