Does Kashmir belong to Pakistan?

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  1. genius

    genius Regular Member

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    I am an Indian patriot but can't help but wonder whether Kashmir belongs to Pakistan.

    First off, Kashmir is Muslim majority, and according to the partition plan, muslim-majority areas are supposed to go to Pakistan. But Indians argue that the kashmir king gave kashmir away to India. But this argument is not valid for two reasons. First, the king was hindu. Second, even giving away a house or small property is not easy ... so how can we be arrogant enough to think that one man had the right to give away an entire state (the size of many countries in Europe) to India? Surely, the aspirations of the people are more important.

    So for these reasons, I wonder whether India violently snatched Kashmir away from Pakistan ... and hence Pakistan is justified in fighting back?
     
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    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    It was Pakistan who violently snatches half Kashmir from India . Read 1948 war. How jail jihadi pathan looters from Pakistan tribale area's entered Kashmir and rapend woman and looted everything in 1948 war.

    How Indian army stoppend them and How nehru betrayed by running to UN
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    The princely states are given choice to merge with India or Pakistan.

    On that account Kashmir belongs to India.

    Pakistan forcefully merged Baluchistan India also did the same with Hyderabad and other states.

    But Kashmir is between India and Pakistan, Kashmir king wanted to remain independent But Pakistan tried to invade Kashmir, India responded. The king agreed to Join India.
     
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    Get ready to be trolled. :rofl:
     
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    Kashmir belongs to the Kashmiris untill the day arrives that they are given a choice to decide their own future.
     
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    Yeah, similarly

    Bengal belongs to Bangalies, Nagaland belongs to various Naga tribes, Tamil Nadu belongs to Tamils, Kerala to Keralites and so on......................................

    Till the time they want to remain with India and till Indian parliament doesn't makes constitutional amendment to accept their independence.

    I don't think the above process is unique to Kashmir.
     
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    it will never arrive
     
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    Generally, I don't reply to such posts by newbies, without requesting Mods for an IP check.

    But, can you show me the partition plan?
     
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    What makes the Pakis believe that Kashmir belongs to them?
     
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    Free Karma Senior Member Senior Member

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    Baluchistan belongs to Baluchis, Sindh to sindhis etc you get the picture. :)
     
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    Yes, As a Indian I proud we played Chankya game and Occupied Kashmir

    Not only Kashmir entire Punjab (70% Muslim pop. including Delhi) belongs to Pakistan
    Nehru-Mountbatten-Elina Triangular Love story worked in favor of India :rofl:


    We(Indians) are fighting Non/Conventional war from day 1 with por** and Look where por*tan and where India is........ Jiski lathi uski bhains

    p.s Many Indians don't agree they want to be Gandians
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    you are an Idiot of First class !!

    Muslims wanted a land for themselves and India gave them .... Partition is never based on equality.

    Muslims are 95 million and Hindus are 235 Million at the time of partition.

    How come partition be equal??


    India generously gave the land to muslims ..... too much of fake glorification of Pakistan and its history will result in delusions and you are in one of them.

    Pakistani Muslims out of delusions thought that they can conquer India, once they realized their british trained Pakistani army cannot take on same british trained Indian army.

    They thought they are equals to India.

    1971 proved that Pakistan is inferior to India, then they wanted to implemnt "death by 1000 cuts".

    Now the terror created by them is killing them.

    In this whole close to 7 decades they never realized who they were and what pakistan is .... You also come in that category.
     
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    First don't compare today's Paki Muslims with 1947 paki Muslims

    Jinna is a fool and British stooge.Why u want to be gandi, be proud we occupied their land, come u low life pakis fight with us and take Kashmir

    They thought they r equal bcoz their boundaries include Pnj+Kashmir+parts of Assam with them but they are failed in Triangular love story :rofl:

    Check Pre India map of punjab it includes himachal/Haryana/delhi .By mistake if parts of assam given to them there is no communication between N-E&Ind,so automatically ENTIRE N-E REGION falls to Pak(east)
     
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    What changed since 1947??

    Did any miracle happened in Pakistan to change Pakistani mulsims since 1947, how amusing !!!


    I have no Idea what you are saying here ...... India's stand on Kashmir never changed.

    Even if they got Punjab Assam etc...etc... ,

    With the mind set of theirs and their way of thinking in the present day world, they will still ruin those lands. Indians (majority Hindus) are with progressive mindset not the case with muslims.

    Regarding equality Pakistanis love to call their country equal to India and this concepts ends there.(I am only talking about countries not people)

    India's interior is the powerful land as history proves. The lands which Pakistan existed is in turmoil for centuries.
     
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    Kashmir is a disputed territory and Kashmiris still have the right to have their pleb as per Partition Act. A hindu maharaja could not have joined India legally ignoring the muslim majority in a princely state.
    Therefor Kashmir cannot be compared with Nagaland, Tamil Nadu or other states you mentioned.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    The real issue is does Pakistan belong to Pakistan?

    Given what is happening it belong to many - Pak Army, ISI, Taliban, secessionists, Uzbekhs, Chinese (in Northern Area and elsewhere) and disruptive elements like Imran Khan and Mullah Qadri.


    let us resolve this issue first.
     
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    Other points have been debunked many times.

    India voluntarily took Kashmir to UN so, UN resolution is under chapter VI which is non-enforceable. Hope your jahil awam knows it. Further the UN resolution hasn't been implemented due to non-operation by Pakistan.

    So, Kashmir will cease to be a dispute the day we want it. But, that will not be the best thing to do.
     
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    Great move. UK should bring it to Strasbourg and have a EU debate on HR violations, specially about AFSPA.
     

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