Does India need new constitution?

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Should India change its constitution?

  1. No- it's awesome

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  2. No- Some amendments are enough

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  3. Yes- We need modern consitution

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  1. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    The guy is talking about writing a new Indian constitution, which is easier to read and implement.
     
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  3. Alien

    Alien Regular Member

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    Yes, India needs a new constitution! rather I would say, needs drastic reforms.

    Abrogate draconian laws such as Hindu Religious act, Article 370, Dalit Act etc...

    Implement Common Civil Code, add new Cyber laws etc...

    BTW, could you please add a polling option on this thread?
     
  4. saty

    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    Be practical.

    Indian constitution is not Rigid we can change anything&everything with majority voting, note: Everything.Get 2/3 majority in both the houses and change any law/clause as per our wish.

    If Hindu Idiots vote at-lest 40% as vote block (out of 80%) we can PRACTICALLY or OFFICIALLY FU** any one opposing our laws/values.:biggrin2:
     
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  5. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    Go through the video. You are not getting the point.
     
  6. saty

    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    You wasted my time, he is an Idiot first class.All he is doing is poverty this and that then US const. we must change/copy US.:rofl:

    Problem is not const. problem is we F'ed-up by CONgress rule. Just imagine if CONgress ruled US for 66 yrs,US may become 2nd Pakistan not US today.

    I repeat get majority(40% vote) change/amend/remove anything&everything in const.Even with simple majority govt can do many changes.Period.
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    I agree with the premise but I don't think it is feasible. Indians are absolute morons.
     
  8. Mad Indian

    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Yes, replacing a their(CONgis) with another theif(BJP) will solve the problem.

    As I said, most Indians are completely stupid. :(
     
  9. Mad Indian

    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    What no public votes? I am eager to see how many retards are there in this forum, let alone India! :dude:???
     
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    CrYsIs Regular Member

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    No need to amend the constitution,just the IPC
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, India needs a new constitution that has a uniform civil law and zero affirmative action (no reservations). It needs to define secularism as a detachment between religion and state, rather than the inclusion of all religions. It should also increase powers of the centre, trash westminster system and give proportionate direct representation. Of course shit like Article 370 shouldn't exist. I should be able to buy my 100-acre quota of land wherever the fvck I want.
     
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    How about reforming it

    1.Universal civil code

    2.Abolish Art 370

    3.retirement age for politicians

    4.Time bound defence procurements
     
  13. Mad Indian

    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Yes, and have the cake and eat it too.. The constitution he is proposing where the govt has no powers would need no reservations as there is no power to be shared but what you are proposing would lead to civil riots and a partition. His idea would actually work.
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    :pound: yes, let us limit what the people of this country can do with their votes even further. Its not like people can decide if the want a old man as their leader or not. No, you know better that "they" don't need an old man to be their leader. You know what is best for them.

    And you want to include defence procurements in the weapons procurement on constitution?:lol:
     
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    and who will take the responsibility if anything happens to be not successful or creates some sort of trouble in future?
     
  16. fyodor

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    The idea that government should have lesser power has been succesfully tested in lots of country and has worked a lot. In India itself we have seen that during ancient times the king usually had limited powers with communities being self-governing.
    Consider the case in India today, where the government has draconian powers over it's citizens. You have NO right to property! You can be jailed(not exaggerating) for anything you say on this forum because India's free speech laws have lots of if's and but's which any government can twist to suit in its favors.

    So its not a question of whether things will go wrong as things are wrong NOW with the type of constitution we have right now.
     
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    any party in India when comes in Power ignores amendments or changes.
     
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    This is true. Constitutional amendments are difficult let alone a Constitutional change! It would be extremely difficult to get the consensus for such a change but this is very much required if India truly wants to be a great power.
    Countries just don't become great by having a high GDP but it needs something more. We need the outbreak of best of human intellect and creativity and that's only possible if the overall gist of the society and govt interferes constructively.

    If this has to be possible than first we need a mass educational movement to teach Indians about the need to have a better constitution and not the highly complex piece of flawed mumbo jumbo we have today. Only than will political parties even discuss this in a country where we have politicos like Laloo/Rawri/Mulayam/Owaisi etc.
     
  19. Mad Indian

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    The problem is not just some politician. The problem will be from all bureaucrats and politicians.

    Seriously, think about it. Who in their right mind would voluntarily give up their power, unless forced? Unless constitutional change/change to bring in more freedom is the most important demand ,which can break or make the country, and is supported by atleast 50% of the electorate, no party would do it.
     
  20. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Forget it, it's not possible, you can't even amend some of the provisions, the SC will reject it calling it against "the basic structure" e.g. just remove the term "secular" from the preamble there will be "civil war" inside India, not only civil war but Jihadi war will also begin. The SC will reject it calling it against the basic structure, though there is no basic structure. Calling laws against basic structure is a different thing but calling so the constitutional amendments ??!! Seems that the SC itself is falling for the power hunger :sad:
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    We should also discuss what parts of the Constitution each member wants changed or amended.

    As folks have mentioned, we do have provision for amendment.

    P.S.: I am not arguing against or in favour of the assertion that amendments are difficult.
     

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