Do poor and lazy people support corrupt leaders?

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  1. SLASH

    SLASH Senior Member Senior Member

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    I look down from my window and see that every week there is some function or fair happening in the nearby chawl. Along with it you also see big banners of political parties that organise such events. Our members from Mumbai can second me on this. Are our people so easily bought over? Why are the same corrupt and incompetent leaders getting elected again and again? Does the election commission look into the spendings only during elections or also though out the term?
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Most of such functions are organized by local "Bhai" who is connected with some party or the other. Yeah votes can and are bought in India.
     
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    People can be bought as long as we have poverty as the poor people think of their next meal and have no sense of how future will pan out if they elect a corrupt politician. Our system has now got corrupted and provided way for the corrupt and criminal persons to fight in election and win them using money, alcohol and freebies. Even election commission cannot stop these. Let me give an example.

    There was an by-election for an assembly and people of one of the candidate was caught with 50 lakh money by the police. They gave the inspector 20lakhs and proceeded with the remaining amount to distribute around. This is the status of our politics. And here I see some people who say "parliament is supreme" and their word is the "last word".

    This is the reason there is an increase in anger among right thinking people which manifested during Anna's fight against corruption.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    In this corrupt society, if one has a connection with a politician, doors open up and law is kept at bay.

    And such politicians cannot last without finances to dole out to their supporters and muscle men, who keep the politician upfront as a great leader!

    Full time supporters and muscle men are usually from the poorer and unemployed sections of society!
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Yes the parliament is supreme as its the pillar of democracy. Are these not the same people who fall for money to vote also protesting side by side of Anna? Works both ways. Hypocrisy all around.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There is no doubt that there is hypocrisy all around.

    Today's Parliamentary Debate shows the same.

    Pious words but will an eye on survival.

    Cause a lockjam and all can claim to have tried so hard and yet......

    But this is a chance to clean up.

    But will it work?
     
  8. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Regular Member

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    Not poor people, these days the poor people of Bihar are working for a new leadership under Nitish Kumar, not poor people.
    But yes, dull and lazy people do support corrupt politicians, I can speak from personal experience, this is the reason why India is in desparate need for a Eugenics program.
     
  9. SLASH

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    From what I have seen it is the regional parties that are more willing to sponsor such events. They understand the people better than other parties. Again the target is the poor and the unemployed who have very few form of entertainment. They idolise their leaders like they are some superstar. They don't really care where the money comes. The money comes from the middle class shopkeepers in the area. I am not talking of 'chanda' but 'hafta'.

    Will it ever stop? how?
     
  10. niharjhatn

    niharjhatn Regular Member

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    You can't be serious - you want a EUGENICS program to curb poverty?

    Implementing a child tax + other benefits for voluntary sterilisation would be enough... but such things require a functional government first.

    IMO get rid of the continual elections around the year that occurs in India. There is ALWAYS some election 'just around the corner' and so politicians are more worried about votes and doing some local politicking rather than doing something USEFUL.
     
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    Most of the poor, vote of parties for the following reasons:-

    - Address theri local needs - getting water, electricity.
    - Provide jobs.
    - Collective voice and protection.

    They really dont care for national issues. That is why you have NCP, Shiv Sena, MNS and RPI who identify with these chawls/ localities, because they pander to the local parochial issues/needs.
     
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    I'm not talking about forced sterilization, just withdraw welfare benefits for non sterilized people, enforce the ban on child labour(so that lazy fathers can't live of this labour), and let nature take its course.
     
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    Local issues are what matter the most to the common man rather than "national" issues.

    Local does not necessarily mean parochial. If it can benefit their local society, it is a good thing.

    The cow belt and its neighborhood was ruled by broad minded "national" parties with "national" agendas for decades, is the region developed?

    If everyone focuses on development of their local ward, constituency, city, district etc in the same order the country will automatically develop.
     
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    I remember a American farmer who said to NatGeo reporter once "Let government handle military and foreign relations while we'll look after ourselves in our lands!"
     
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    We were searching for the moron of the year in the other thread
     
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    in the last elections in TN people took booze and money from DMK and voted for AIADMK. :laugh:
     
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    That's the hallmark of an empowered & educated electorate.
     
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    Bengalis voted for CPM for continuosly 30 years:troll:
     
  19. Naren1987

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    Did you read my reply to that post?
     

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