Disgusting article on Netaji in Times Of India

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  1. Voldemort

    Voldemort Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is our revered Netaji the same man who was enamoured by Hitler?

    Aren’t you excited by the revelations in the Netaji files? No? Must be the total lack of mystery and scintillating material in them. For someone said to be alive and around through the decades, there are fewer sightings of him than the Loch Ness monster and Bigfoot or Elvis.


    I have always enjoyed the stories of the mysterious sadhu and other imaginary figures reported with interest in our media, anticipating the second coming of the great leader. Such tales are most entertaining, particularly when one is not sure whether everyone is being serious or begins giggling the moment the others look away.



    The more interesting thing to me, however, is that we are interested at all in Subhas Chandra Bose. I accept he is a national hero, and the photograph of him in his martial cap and uniform duly graced the walls of my house (my mother will tweak my ear if she reads this column)..
    But what exactly were Bose’s military achievements? I ask because he liked to be photographed in that uniform. If you are struggling to think of any, it is not because you don’t know but because there is not much to report. The Indian National Army, which was essentially composed of British Indian Army soldiers captured by the Japanese who were now fighting under Bose, has little achievement to its name. It collapsed the instant the Japanese withdrew air support. So poorly were they led that the vast majority of them died of disease. When they found their way out of the jungles and surrendered, they fell into the arms of the British Indian Army, their former comrades, weeping.


    The best description of the group’s activities to me has come from R M Kasliwal, the Indian National Army’s medical officer. He wrote ‘The Impact of Netaji and INA on India’s Independence’. Though he is totally devoted to his boss, the Subhas Chandra Bose he describes is small-minded and focussed on the wrong things. I recommend the book very strongly to readers of the Sunday Times of India. Here’s an example, where Kasliwal describes a meeting with Bose:



    “One day he sent for me in his office at the Supreme Headquarters. I entered his room and saluted him and then he started talking to me about some important medical matters when he suddenly moved his left hand at which I thought that he was asking me to take a seat and so I sat in a chair in front of his table and had about 15 minutes of conversation with him and after this I saluted him and returned to my office. In a few minutes General Bhosle came to my office and told me that Netaji was very annoyed with me because I had occupied a seat in his office without permission.”



    Dr Kasliwal writes that Bose had the military mind of Shivaji, the catholicity of Akbar and the intellectual genius of Vivekananda.



    But actually Bose knew little about how to manage an army and, as I have said, the INA could not fight without the Japanese. Dr Kasliwal’s descriptions of how this happened are almost comic, so poorly run was the INA. Netaji’s interest, going by this book, was mainly in inspecting parades, which were a serious and time-consuming ritual for Bose, himself neither trained nor particularly fit. And the other activity was making daily speeches, two hours long, on the radio, which exhausted him.



    After reading this book, the penny dropped for me on Bose. I was not surprised to come across this description from another work by Nirad C Chaudhuri. It is from before the war, and from Bose’s time in the Congress:



    “Bose organized a volunteer corps in uniform, its officers being even provided with steel-cut epaulettes… his uniform was made by a firm of British tailors in Calcutta, Harman’s. A telegram addressed to him as GOC was delivered to the British General in Fort William and was the subject of a good deal of malicious gossip in the (British Indian) press. Mahatma Gandhi being a sincere pacifist vowed to non-violence, did not like the strutting, clicking of boots, and saluting, and he afterwards described the Calcutta session of the Congress as a Bertram Mills circus, which caused a great deal of indignation among the Bengalis.”



    This play-acting of soldier-soldier was the primary aspect of Bose’s militarism. For a man enamoured of Adolf Hitler, imperial Japan and a believer in totalitarianism, he is awfully revered in India. Why? That is the puzzle. I am as quick to bow to the good and great as the rest of us, and as my mother insists I do, but in this instance I need a little more convincing. This is why I hope the rest of the revelations in the Netaji files contain something less banal than what has come out so far.


    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatime...aji-the-same-man-who-was-enamoured-by-hitler/



     
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    Voldemort Senior Member Senior Member

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    I wonder how these kinds of opinion pieces can be published. What if something like this is written about Gandhiji?
     
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    DingDong Senior Member Senior Member

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    Soon we will. Freedom of Speech is double edged sword. Off course such views will not be published, but social media will allow them to spread on their own strength.

    One of the biggest lies which must be debunked is that Gandhi won us freedom. This is an insult on every Indian worth his salt and on great freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh who died fighting against the tyrant.

    Coward Gandhi did not have guts to speak openly against the hanging of Udham Singh who butchered one of the butchers of Jalianwala.

    INA laid the foundation for discontent and mutiny in the Indian Navy post WW2 (salt vs country debate). Somebody must tell their armchair opinion makers that Hitler is not a hated figure in India.
     
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    Screambowl Senior Member Senior Member

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    time to show them real freedom of speech by educating people how propaganda works. How intellectuals use this platform to promote their agendas which looks soft, but damages the society in long term.

    I think we need more threads on how secularist and so called liberal intellectuals harming our society. By exposing them in their own way.
     
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  6. blue marlin

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    who is netaji? what did he do?
     
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    Rowdy Co ja kurwa czytam! Senior Member

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    The man behind our Independence
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    lol hahahahaha ... :pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::cruisin2::basanti:
     
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    A quote from article posted in post #1 of this thread........


    The point is.......

    If it is true, then how the All India Forward Bloc party become communist / socialist .......!

    Anyway, the wiki page of All India Forward Bloc ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_India_Forward_Bloc
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Legion

     
  11. blue marlin

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    this is a touchy topic. i'm out
     
  12. pmaitra

    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    You should watch the movie on Netaji, listen to the Times Now debate, most importantly, pay attention to everything that is being said. Hopefully then, you will get the answer to your question.
     
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    does the writer NOT know that netaji is respected in India because of his efforts to win freedom for our mother-land? he went to Germany, japan only for national purpose.

    has the writer NOT studied indian history as we have?Is the writer some foreigner?

    he was seeking the help of japan & germany as these were the only choices available which would have helped indian freedom movement.It is just like USA taking help of france in its independence time.
     
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    OneGrimPilgrim Senior Member Senior Member

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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    prior this, when the issue of secrecy about files on Netaji had come up some months back, there was a long debate on a tech-forum regarding this. the OP there was very confused due to the same 'revelations' made by the author of the article. he had read some books earlier and didn't consider Netaji to be a national hero as he's revered. lengthy debate and some interesting posts were there in that thread.
     
  15. jackprince

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    All those who are criticising the author, please desist. Don't be fools.










    The author is AKAAR PATEL. One of the most despicable leech among the filthy vermins of Indian media. So, it is not a wonder that such venom is spurted out of his ass. And the publisher is the TOIlet paper, and everybody knows that only thing they are known for is their strict policy of anti-India stand.

    So I suggest stop discussing this filth to keep the forum clean.
     
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    OneGrimPilgrim Senior Member Senior Member

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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    poop and toilet-paper afterall share 'natural' relationship with each other.
     

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