Dhruv Heliborne AEW

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  1. Sridhar

    Sridhar House keeper Moderator

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    It is understood that the Army will be looking for a system that can be integrated with the existing ALH Dhruv airframe, though it is unclear if this will be an all-new product on new airframes, or retrofitted on an existing number of Dhruv units already in service

    Principally a sensor package for full integration with the Dhruv platform, the Army is looking for a system for early warning of aircraft and land units, stand-off surveillance and intelligence gathering. AEW units will give the Army a valuable tactical battlefield asset, currently missing in its flying inventory

    Army scouts for heliborne AEW | idrw.org

    Army scouts for heliborne AEW - SP's Land Forces
     
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  3. bhramos

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    Dhruv AEW!!!

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    That is a Sonar, It was design for Naval version..

    This is not a AEW ..

     
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    That's an anti-ship version. The radar is in the nose. Basically to fire a cruise missile at a target.
     
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    I am sure Americans are busy presenting something similar to Army.

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  7. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Lockheed Martin's Vigilance podded system
    Lockheed Martin Offers Bolt-on Multi-Mission Sensor System

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    I am sure this is the one..

    There are no other exsists, Except if DRDO have Similar Plans with BFSR..
     
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  8. venkat

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    yes its not an AEW !!! it is probably SV-2000 super vision Radar ,which could be a maritime patrol Radar!!!! I think not clicked due to no navy orders for dhruv....
     
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    Ka-31

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    No idea if this move by IA to place a radar on a light helicopter is a logical move, but in case they go for it Dhruv would be carrying something similar to these helicopters.
     
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    Shaitan Zandu balm all day Senior Member

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    ALH Dhruv based Early warning system for Indian Army

    India Army is planning to procure helicopter-borne early warning systems. The new system from private sector or Defence Public Sector Unit, Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) will give formation commanders an insight into enemy territory while serving as warning systems for approaching aircraft and armoured units.

    The project, which would involve developing a new system in collaboration with a foreign partner, can be lucrative for the Indian defence industry, as the final order would be for a large number of the early warning systems.

    Army aviation is now operating the ALH and is set to order a new fleet of light attack helicopters that are being developed by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

    ALH Dhruv based Early warning system for Indian Army
     
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    That's right.

    That is a sonar, and this helicopter could be modified to drop bombs or anti-submarine charges.

    Very similar to Kamov-25 Hormone:

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    using sonar in the air for the anti sub purpose? you'd better recheck it....and obviously the thing in the nose dome of Ka25 is Surface searching Radar....it should be the same as ALH N901 in pic
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    and the sonar developed by DRDO's Naval Physical Oceanographic Laboratory fitting on Naval ALH would be dipping configuration

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    IN-901 is the first Dhruv to be fitted with radar and other avionics standard to the final multirole naval variant of the helicopter and recently completed torpedo and depth charge dropping trials at Vishakapatnam, with further trials to take place later. An external payload of up to 1500 kg may be carried on pylons mounted on cabin-side hardpoints. The second helicopter to have similar features, IN-703, was also the first to feature the rescue-hoist system. IN-705 may be the next helicopter to undergo upgradation and already features the rescue-hoist system. The Indian Navy will operate a mix of general utility and ASW/ASV Dhruvs. (DRDO, via B Harry)
     
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    Kamov-25 was designed for anti-submarine warfare. They would rather search under the surface than the surface itself. What we are saying is plausible speculation.
     
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    it might be better if a plausible speculation bases on some basic knowledge...it's all right to make some mistake sometimes.
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    actually it is a quite old pic discussed on other indian military forum as I remembered...we could find something else, and it should be a prototype(Naval ALH)...
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    It's all right to make mistakes, true, but when pointed out, one should correct himself. I think you should correct yourself because you claimed it was for scanning the surface, or provide links to support your claim.

    BTW, Kamov-25 was meant for anti-submarine warfare, and I am repeating this for the second time. I cannot say with certainty what that picture posted by @bhramos does, but if you can say with certainty, please share your sources.

    Also:

    Who said sonar cannot be used in the air?
     
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    Last edited by shiphone; 04-11-12 at 07:48 AM.

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    easy, friend... nothing big here...LOL
     
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    Thank you for editing your post. :)
     
  18. shiphone

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    1. I really can't understand your logic...and I think there is enough info about the point in my post.
    2. so ,would you give your source plz.: who said sonar could be used in air(for searching the Subs)? I hardly heard about it?
     
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    One question, what is the use of a AEW system for the army? Army's units are not mobile enough to take advantage of early warning, and also I suspect capability of an AEW to locate and track land units accurately.
     
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    Lockheed Martin's Vigilance podded system
    Lockheed Martin Offers Bolt-on Multi-Mission Sensor System

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    Lockheed Martin Offers Bolt-on Multi-Mission Sensor System | Aviation International News

    Except if DRDO have Similar Plans with BFSR..

     
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    If the requirement is for surveillance and intelligence gathering, that it would good move.

    Tactical surprise and locating the enemy movements is very important. These could help to locate enemy command center by intercepting radio signals and transfer the data to artillery fire-control computers.


    The disadvantges would be, Helis circlig to gather intel would be easy targets for enemy SAMs and Aircrafts.
     
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