Dhanush the Indian Bofors

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  1. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Bhumihar Jako Rakhe Saiyan Mar Sake Na Koi Senior Member

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    >German parts :notsure:
    >Indigenous Artillery :bs: :facepalm:

    Nigga please hume China Pakistan kya marenge hume to apne ghar wale hi mar rahe he

    Sab kuch Privatise kardo yar sab kuch

    Rona aa raha he yar mujhe :doh:
     
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    airtel Senior Member Senior Member

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    Gun is still in testing phase , which businessman will open a ball baring factory Without confirm orders in large numbers ?

    Sometimes buying Few components is a better option than making an Entire factory for it .
    that will unnecessary increase the cost .


    but components should be " original " & quality should be " Good " ......................fake Chinese components of cheap quality should not be used .

    Look at the United states Army >> :daru::daru::daru::daru:


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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...56/US-weapons-full-of-fake-Chinese-parts.html

    http://www.cnbc.com/2014/01/03/us-put-china-made-parts-in-f-35-fighter-program.html
     
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    Khagesh Senior Member Senior Member

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    No, traitor is the gang which ensured that India has to live off imports.

    This guy was just a smalltime chindi-chor supplier.

    And BTW the german company does not even manufacture the component that the supply managers imagined should be imported from Germany.

     
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    Bornubus Dogra Rule 1846-1949 Senior Member

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    BC Chinese $ 50 ~ billion favorable trade ese hi nahin ho gaya wahan sab Diwali ki Chini light ban karte reh Gaye yahan BC Desi Bofors me Chinese parts
     
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    actually i am more concerned with the official at the ofb jabalpur factory who went ahead with this ponzy scheme. Report mentions that the official approved of these chinese parts under the pretense they were german parts. now this raises only two possible conclusion that either the official was vastly incompetent and was geniunely unable to distinguish between the bearings , or he is corrupted as hell.
    regardless the conclusion remains the same that we should do something about the ofb factories as they have the officials who would go on about their corrupt ways with impunity at expense of the defence of our country.
     
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    Zero-Sum-Game Regular Member

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    @Bornubus i am little disappointed man... please keep dogs separate from the worshipers of the one who shall not be named. Dogs have done nothing to warrant this treatment.
     
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    Brood Father Senior Member Senior Member

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    Bold section is more chilling.. The nexus of corruption in national security is very strong... Who knows may be even bureaucrats are also involved along with some fat generals
     
  10. IndiaRising

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    generals of indian army are most corrupt. its only the JCOs and NCOs like shaheed jayadrath singh who give a damn about india. when officers get to the point of being brigadiers, they lose touch with reality.
     
  11. valkyrie_1810

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    >Privatization
    >2 nd amendment

    BC Govt sahi mein bik gayi maa chodaye sab mai nhi jaane wala border ladne agar yeh hal hai apna machinery ka,sala khud ko weapon nhi milta,aur takle mc kashmiriyat kehte hai,mc pehle yeh sab toh thik karo,bhosdike sale,yeh log toh border pe ladne se rhe sale,sirf bus mein chudai chalti hai inki,aur bakchodi,bc in sab ko pehle bhejo border,nahi,sale high class underground bunker mein rahenge yeh suvar ki aullad sale,maa kasam itna jhant jal rha hai inse ki mc aaj hi ek list banau aur sab ko uda dun,deshdrohi sale.
     
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    we has here over hundreds of ballbearing menufecturers , still these perticuler ones has to bear huge recoil force ,so drdo preffer to buy from someone having experience in the field......
    but still 10 lakh per peice is too much to digest....
    i read somewhere , that su30 tyres we used to import costs us 5 times more before we start putting MRF tyres ....
     
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    It's the fault of the officials for not checking the authenticity of the parts supplied by vendors by cross checking from the original manufacturers. These buggers just took it for granted that the bearings were made in Germany just because it was mentioned on the equipment, which was actually fabricated by some fake Chinese Company.

    A simple action of checking back from the German company or visiting the manufacturer should have been done. What does it take to do that? This is gross dereliction of duty by officials of the Guns Carriage Factory, Jabalpur.

    This sab chalta hai attitude and corruption at all levels is our bane.
     
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    Chini Chini everywhere, fake stuff or not, we may have to live with it!

    China's grip over the vast Indian market shows how the onus is on China to pursue peace and reconciliation

    If China initiates a war against India, New Delhi should have no problem convincing the world that Beijing started the firefight. After all, everything is “Made in China“ these days! Jokes about Made in China have proliferated ever since the manufacturing superpower whipped its billion strong workforce into assembly lines. Here's a naughty one: Everything is made in China, except babies; they are made in vachina. And then there's the guy who goes to the optometrist: “Read the last line, please ...“ “Made in China“. :laugh:

    On a serious note, China pretty much owns the world, mainly on the strength of its manufacturing for the rest of the world, particularly the US, and including India. So when one hears all the war-talk and sabre rattling coming from Beijing, you have to wonder: How come India has allowed China to have a run of its cellphone market? How come Indians are lapping up Oppo and Vivo and OnePlus (all three from the same Chinese company BBK) and other Chinese gizmos?

    If you don't know about BBK Electronics Corporation, now is a good to time to find out. Founded in 1995 by a Chinese engineer-entrepreneur named Duan YongPing, it is now the world's second largest maker of mobile phones after Samsung, having overtaken even Apple in its hot run.

    Hell, BBK pretty much owns Indian cricket now! You heard that right. A country that can't wield a bat for nuts has suddenly made deep inroads into this colonial game that India has embraced with a passion. Earlier this year, Oppo ponied up more than Rs 1,000 crore to sponsor the Indian cricket team for the next five years. And Vivo shelled out more than Rs 2,000 crore for IPL rights till 2022. How long before Virat Kohli's bat sports a “Made in China“ logo now that Oppo jerseys have already made their debut?

    At first blush, this can be deeply disturbing. Some folks might ask how can you expect our soldiers to guard our borders when the national team is sporting Oppo jerseys and using Vivo phones modelled by Ranvir Singh? One way to look at it is to see what's happening to the US. Almost everything in an American home is now Made in China; China still owns more than a trillion dollars in US debt.

    Owning US Treasury notes helps China grow its economy by keeping its currency weaker, exporting goods to American consumers addicted to cheap goods, and creating millions of Chinese jobs. Selling debts or T-notes to China also helps the US economy to grow, keeps interest rates low, and gives American consumers cheap consumer goods.

    In the long run, China's ownership of US debt is shifting the balance of power in its favour. But who cares about the long run? America has bet the shop, and its bottom dollar, on its consumption. Will it consume itself to ... penury? oblivion?
    death? Or will it be China that will go under the weight of its credit built on hard work and slavish enterprise? Many people have explained the conundrum with a familiar example. If an individual owes a bank a few thousand dollars, the bank will be after him to repay .But if the bank has lent the individual a billion (or trillion in this case) dollars, it is the bank that is under pressure and could go down the tube if the individual defaults (Indian banks and industries are all too familiar with this situation in recent years).

    So inasmuch as China has the US on a hook as lender, the US too has China by the short and curlies as a debtor. The joke goes that when Americans got a cheque for $500 some years ago so they could spend it and galvanise the US economy , the first thing they did was buy a “Made in China“ flatscreen TV .

    Of course, India is nowhere in the US league of indebtedness, not to speak of not having the greenback as the worldwide reserve currency . Still, the situation illustrates how vigorous trade can have unexpected consequences.

    India's vast market, illustrated vividly by the advances made by Oppo and Vivo, shows how the onus is also on China to pursue the path of peace and reconciliation to keep its economy ticking and growing. The responsibility is not just India's.


    http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/...r-the-vast-Indian-market-shows-22072017014019
     
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    All hail Globalisation: The death of Nationalist feelings (and logics).
     
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    GB Road? WTF? I heard it's a frikkin Red Light Area!! Lol! So now we're contracting pimps to supply hardware for our weapon systems??[​IMG] Jeeeez!
     
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    They participated in the tender and became L1 in price bid. This L1 system should be abolished, especially from price bid.
     
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    Exactly! We are stuck in the same old British era procedures. We need to change this damn tender system and go in directly for established firms even if they are slightly more expensive.

    We are penny wise, pound foolish. And thus always land up in shit!
     
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    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Tender should be there. Without it, it would be another anarchy. Technical L1 is welcome step, but the practice of price L1 lands us in deep shit.

    This way most of the eligible competitors get opted out or even shy away from bidding.
     
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    Looks that way..

    But on the flip side, without L1 tender govt might be paying double the price.

    There is no perfect answer to this question.
     

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