Desai questions 'suitability' of Gita in modern India

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  1. KS

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    Desai questions 'suitability' of Gita in modern India


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  3. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    And I thought that God gave us intellect ! :lol:
     
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    it seem every flop just want to become hit guy popular guy by just
    1 questioning Geeta relivance
    2 By insulting hindus
    3 By make nacked pics of Godesses
    etc etc

    unfortunately it works
     
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    I dont know what will happen if someone tries to read the Bible or Kuran as a secular text!
     
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    Implies as a whole!

    Implies certain elements unsuitable for Modern India!

    what he is reading is Baised, and am sure! Like him there are many uncritical minds who have gained fame.

    There is no single interpretation of Bhagawad Gita
    Swami A
    This ----ing dude has no idea what he is talking about..
    any one who has read six schools of Indian philosophy knows what am talking about!!
    Sri Sankaracarya --> Non-Dualistic interpretation
    Sri Ramanujacarya -->> Dualistic interpretation..
    and so on .....

    This is the awareness of a common Hindu who is scared about any bullshit article from Lords in England.:rofl:
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Religion itself in a genuinely secular country is not suitable.

    Religion is, in itself, the fountainhead of being communal!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Who is this Megnad Desai?

    The same chap from the UK who is our Prime Time TV celebrity with that Weaver Bird nest hair?

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    ^^ ha ha ha thanks ray for pic and comparison strange hair style now 100% agree he has some psycho problem to look orvbehave strange
     
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    chase Tihar Jail Banned

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    "I am just wondering that if he reads the Bible or Koran or the New testament or Old Testament from a 'secular' perspective then these texts would be immediately declared as hate speech and banned in any sane civilized world.The god of the old testament is a bigot and a rapist,the new testament and all the abrahmic religions are based on the old testament.
     
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    Don't we have our own brains to interpret any religious text? Do we need Dumbos like desais to guide us?

    Have Hinduism ever put any compulsion regarding reading of Gita - like islam and Quaran? How many of you have actually read Gita?

    I'm proud that there is no compulsion in Hinduism unlike Islam! (I know some genius may post an abrogated verse from quran regarding 'no compulsion of religion' bring it on)!
     
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    The great thing about Hinduism is that you are allowed to criticize the religion and find fault in it.

    If you look back, Hindus have always been critical about their religion and if there is any problem in it then we fix it, several reformist movements have done this in the past. And this process has kept Hinduism relevant through the millennia.

    We can argue against the points he is making, rather than argue against his right to make them.
     
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    No one is curbing his right to do what he wants with his religion.

    But what I like is that there is no 'fatwas' being delivered that makes him go into hiding!

    You are right, Hinduism is a jolly old Club!

    Do as you like and damn the world. That's what I find is real invigorating!

    And even if chaps out here go hammer and tongs, Dinky Desai will still publish what he wants and will not have Special Branch police and Safe houses to protect him because some religious nut has given a fatwa on his head!

    Whoopee!

    Let us not give the example of Islam alone, please.

    Mizoram, the Christian State of India, has given a 'fatwa' that none can play football on Sunday! ;)

    Abrahamic religions take religion very seriously and not merely as a chit chat club!

    Don't you think that is a right way to go?
     
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    You are right..every religious text contains such parts which will not make sense or un ethical to follow in a modern society..so what we do ? we would take the good things , leave the bad parts or interpret that parts in a way which looks nice, and if nothing can be done to some parts we just ignore it.
    but some people are adamant on following what is written literally with out looking the contest, period , culture of society when these words were written and that is the cause of all the trouble we see in the name of religion.
     
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    yes Hindus were always critical about the religion but the reforms were not as smooth as you would like to think, there were always resistance from the orthodox, and will remain in the future also..as society progress what is considered good practice , ritual, today will be questioned tomorrow and there will be two groups, one for and other against the change..it's a continuous process.

    second thing absence of a teacher, it can be a good thing as well as a bad thing because with out proper guidance one may interpret the words wrongly. So a good guru is always advisable IMO and I think place / concept ,of guru was always there.
     
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    Sirji,

    I completely agree with you; however, how many times have these Christian Fatwas being implemented in Totality? Have you ever seen Xians Rioting, looting and plundering because a Padre said them to do so? How many times have Xians especially Indian xians killed, maimed or beheaded anyone who said something against their religion? How many times have we seen xians destroy public property and inflicting injuries on police? Everywhere they kind of live in peace and I'm talking about religious Xians !!


    P.S: Let me tell you xians will play football in Mizoram and show middle finger to the church and its padres unlike in the case of islamic fatwas!!
     
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    Gita has been around for thousands of years since it was written. There is no point divulging the actual source and the age of that knowledge in a thread like this of a defence forum.

    Sanatan Dharma has prevailed despite the kind of people like Meghnad Desai. If humankind is just a blink in the annals of time, think how insignificant one person like Meghnad Desai is.
     
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    Little more than 5000 years.

    There are two different Gita books available.

    1) Shrimad Bhagavad Geeta.

    Which covers all the three different ways (Karma yoga, Gyan yoga and Bhakti yoga) so that one can reach to the lord.

    2) Uddhava Gita.

    Which covers mainly Gyan yoga only.

    One can find it at the Eleventh Canto of the Bhagavata Purana, chapters six to twenty-nine.

    They both were spoken by Lord Krishna to Arjun and Uddhava, one of his best friends and relatives.
     
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    ^^

    Not many people know it but there is another gita Ashtavakra gita Ashtavakra Gita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Ashtavakra Gita (Sanskrit in Devanagari: अष्टावक्रगीता; IAST: aṣṭāvakragītā)[1] or the Song of Ashtavakra is a classical Advaita Vedanta scripture. Based on the language structure, this Vedic scripture is also known as Ashtavakra Samhita, and it is dated to be around 1100 BCE to 800 BCE based on the composition style of the Sanskrit language[2]. The Ashtavakra Samhita documents a dialogue between the Perfect Master Ashtavakra and Janaka, the King of Mithila.[3]
     
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    Welcome back brother.
     
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    That means you have not seen the fanaticism of the new converts...;)
     

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