Defense industry India vs Iran

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  1. Waffen SS

    Waffen SS New Member

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    Who is more developed?

    Iranians say they are surprisingly self-dependent than India.Is it true,please compare.
     
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    SajeevJino Long walk Elite Member

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    sob Moderator Moderator

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    One is suspect and the other is bogus.

    Make your choice
     
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    Neil Senior Member Senior Member

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    self dependent/reliant does not mean more advanced.... by that logic even NK is more self dependent that us.... the fact of the matter is they dont have a choice no matter how crappy their product is....
     
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    Iran has the capability to build up their defence industry indigenously. So does India. Let's compare them both:

    Aviation:

    India: Several trainers, Marut, Tejas, MCA in development, Dhruv. LCH and so on.
    Iran: One helicopter, One mock-up of a stealth fighter.

    Land forces:

    India: 155 mm L/39 gun, 120 mm ARDE L/52, Arjun, Abhay, 122 mm rockets, Pinaka MBRL
    Iran: One tank, rockets for BM series rocket artillery

    Strategic forces

    India: Agni series of missiles, K series, Prahar, Shaurya, Prithvi, Nirbhay in development.
    Iran: Scud modifications, IRBM (??)

    India is, therefore, decades ahead.
     
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    Keshav Murali Back to studies :( Senior Member

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    Also, Le me knows nothing about advances in water. A little help @Kunal Biswas
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    India, Does anyone need time to figure it out ?

    Avations : Dhruv, Tejas, Marut, Kirans, Sitara and many others..
    Land : INSAS 1B1, Arjun MK1/2, Abhay, Pinaka, Trucks..
    Sea : Kora Pocket Destroyer, Brahmaputra / Godavari Frigates, Delhi Destroyers, Shivalik Frigates, Vikrant CV, Arihant SSNB..
    Missiles force : Agni, Pritavi, BMD..

    And many i cant remember now, there are plenty more..
     
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    GromHellscream Regular Member

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    They will surpass in two decades, the prerequisite is that they are not invaded by US. Period.
     
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    Keshav Murali Back to studies :( Senior Member

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    May I ask, HOW?

    India has a bigger economy that's growing at twice the rate if Iran's economy and has a much bigger pool of intellectuals along with hundreds of experienced defence scientists and proper funding.

    Jealous of India?

    Edit: By your logic, Tanzania will overtake China in defense development in 3 decades.
     
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    the position on ground is that India can destroy whole Iran in a week with Iran remaining like a sitting duck.

    the thread starter is atrocious in comparisons.

    Iranians have manufactured an aircraft which is too slow and can not withstand old Mig 21s leave alone Tejas which is supersonic.

    have Iranians made any tank yet?
     
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    Iran is a country that has been sanctioned severely, while India has access to the best pieces of equipment.

    They are forced to accept anything they get from their industry.
     
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    That is a bit of a stretch. Iran is obviously lacking technologically, but has two advantages. First, it is pretty big, and secondly, the manpower it could summon in case of war is massive.
     
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    The advantages Iran has doesn't appears obviously.

    First, their government and social style. Though heavily colored by Islam Religion, it's governed by a revolution party thus the society is highly organized.

    Second, thanks to first point, Iran doesn't follow the failure way of other Islam countries but pursue industrilization with strong will. The only other case on this point in the entire Islam world is Turkey. And look at how awesome Turkey is now.

    Third, their history. Iran had been a strong empire both in military and culture for long times. This race is not kinds of barbarians or monkeys who has no ideas of what are needed to build a strong nation. And their education is not that bad too.

    All they lacked is a stable outer environments and the acceptance of mainstream world order. They chose to use nuclear weapons to knock the door of USA's kindful response, but the results of this are still hard to anticipate yet. In one world, they are in a similar situation as China day back to the Cold War before Mr. Nixon coming to Beijing.

    On the other hand, India has been in a perfect strategy situation with aids from both West and East for many decades, but still lacks of efficiency. Big population is the best treasure as well as the biggest burden at the same time, which point China knows the most. As a medium sized country with proper social structure, infinite cash through oil, fairly solid education foundation, it's possible for Iran to achieve higher efficiency.
     
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  15. Waffen SS

    Waffen SS New Member

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    Yes,Iranians made Tank.

    Zulfiqar MBT,Zulfiqar (tank) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They also made Azarkhsh and HESA Saeqeh fighter planes,based on F 14 and F 5,and 2 Helicopter based on US helicopters.

    HESA Shahed 285 and 278.

    As well as their own version of various infantry weapons,mostly based on Foreign equipment,and their strategic force.

    But we made Nuclear bombs,and various weapons.

    I think the fact is hence Iran is under sanction so it is forced to make their own defense industry,so they insisted heavily to develop their own industry,we are not,so we did not focus much to develop our own defense industry.

    Currently which is Iran's main problem that is their extensive Brain Drain.
     

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