Darool wants Ahmediyas banned

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  1. GPM

    GPM Tihar Jail Banned

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    ..., from haj and umra. In this regard it has written a letter to mS. Arabia's monarch, who is considered the defender of the [islamic] faith.

    Dar-ul-uloom draws lots of water with Indian and foreign muslims.

    Mind you Ahmediyas aka Qadianis have been been "officially" declared non muslims. like in Pakistan. I hope GOI has not done it so far. What do the the Constitution, CRPC and IPC say about excommunication?

    PS: This appeared in today's papers. Maybe I will examine it in light of the CVT bill. Please either confirm or trash it, but do not ask for a link.
     
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    Some fatwas of Darrul uloom.


    <LI class="g w0">Darul Ifta: Deoband India

    Darul Uloom has issued fatwas from its inception but when questions started coming in bulks and it was hard for the teachers to reply them in their part ...
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    <LI class="g w0">Jeans not appropriate, says Darul Uloom fatwa - Rediff.com India News

    22 Dec 2010 – Leading Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband has said that wearing jeans or other tight-fitting clothes is not appropriate as per religious ...
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    HEhehe. Why do you object if some Hindu outfits object against jeans? Hypocrisy.


    <LI class="g w0">Darul Uloom fatwa against co-ed - Indian Express

    6 Jul 2007 – Darul Uloom fatwa against co-ed - Darul Uloom-Deoband, one of the oldest and prestigious Islamic seminaries in the world, ...
    www.indianexpress.com/news/darul-uloom-fatwa-against.../203957/ - Cached

    Why do you object if some Hindus object against co-ed??>
    <LI class="g w0">Darul Uloom fatwa says donating blood un-Islamic - ZeeNews

    23 Nov 2010 – In a potentially controversial decree, Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband has said that donation of blood and body parts was against the ...
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    Why should Hindus donate blood ONLYB to be transfused to muslims? Mind you, Darool is aginst DONATION but not against ACCEPTANCE? Haha.
    <LI class="g w0">Now a Darul Uloom fatwa against women judges

    7 Aug 2010 – Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband has issued an edict saying that Muslim women should not become judges as it is forbidden in the ...
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    Why? But after that not a muslim judge has been appointed to any HC or SC. Soon they will be crying DISCRIMINATION.,

    <LI class="g w0">Don't talk to male colleagues: Darul Uloom's fatwa to all working ...

    12 May 2010 – According to the Deoband clerics, the Shariat clearly mentions that women should wear the veil in office and should not mix with male ...
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    Haha. Muslim women are out of every govt post. Then theyb will cry DISCRIMINATION!!!
    <LI class="g w0">Now, Darul Uloom Deoband fatwa against jeans, condoms

    31 Dec 2010 – Now, Darul Uloom Deoband fatwa against jeans, condoms. New Delhi: Leading Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband has once again issued some ...
    www.unp.me/.../now-darul-uloom-deoband-fatwa-against-jeans-condoms-129835/ - Cached

    Some Hindu orgs too arecagainst condoms. But they are called WHAT? Answer me please.

    <LI class="g w0">Vande Mataram and the Darul Uloom Deoband's fatwas « Ullas ...

    5 Nov 2009 – There has been much debate on the fatwa issued by the Sunnite seat of learning in Deoband, Uttar Pradesh the Darul Uloom. ...
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    <LI class="g w0">Darul Uloom Fatwa: Working muslim women to cover up | Talk Delhi

    12 May 2010 – The so called guardian for Indian Muslims, Darul Uloom Deoband , recently declaired a Talibane fatwa for Indian working women , that they ...
    talkdelhi.com/.../darul-uloom-fatwa-working-muslim-women-to-cover-up/ - Cached

    IDIOTIC to sayb the least.
     
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    India has a significant Ahmadiyya population. Most of them live in Rajasthan, Orissa, Haryana, Bihar, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, and a few in Punjab in the area of Qadian. In India, Ahmadis are considered to be Muslims by the Government of India. This belief is supported by a court verdict (Shihabuddin Koya vs. Ahammed Koya, A.I.R. 1971 Ker 206). There is no legislation that declares Ahmadis non-Muslims or limits their activities.

    The Islamic University of India and Darul Uloom Deoband have declared Ahmadis to be non-Muslims.Ahmadis are not allowed to sit on the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, a body of religious leaders that India's government recognises as representative of Indian Muslims.
     
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    I am not an islamic scholar, but Islam has 6 prophets called Nabi Natik.
    Adam, Noah,Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed (saw). Mohammed (saw) is known as Khatimul Ambiya. The last prophet. But in Islam there are over 120,000 other prophets in Islam. They are not Natik.

    Joseph, John the Baptist, David, Solomon etc are all prophets in Islam.

    According to Shia Ismaili beliefs, Prophet Mohammed (Saw) said that Mehdi will appear from Maghreb (west) that would be west of Arabia. He was going to be an Imam of Islam. According to Shia Ismaili beliefs Mahdi returned as Imam from present day Tunisia and established a kingdom in north Africa (Egypt,Libya,Morocco,Tunisia and Algeria of today), which lasted for 300 years. The rule is known as Fatemid and the Imams are known as Fatemi Imams after Fatema, daughter of the Prophet (saw). The line of Fatemi Imams run till today.
    So as per Shia Ismailis, Mahdi already arrived long back.

    More here on Fatemids.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimid
     
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    I guess next in line is, Darool Uloom: Each and every except Wahabis is a non-muslim and should be banned.
     
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    What happened to the Islamic ummah? :confused:
     
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    Ahmediyya is a Islamic religious movement originated in India, they consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed as there prophet, which is not acceptable to other sects, in pakistan they are already wajib-e-qatal. Hope it is not done in India
     
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    Ganged up. They want even shias banned from haj.

    Your opinion does not count. Darul is most powerful khap.

    My point is that if Darool people consider think themselves as Indian, why don't they pursude GOI to declare them non muslims and thus not process their haj visa applications?
     
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    But the Question is if Ahmediyas are Non Muslims so why have the Saudis allowed them to come for Haj at all

    The Saudis are very strict people .So it means that the Saudis have considered this issue and they dont mind Ahmediyas coming for Haj
     
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    Because Pakistanis want to be thekedars of Islam. Check my earlier post about Islamic prophets. If Mirza had claimed to be Prophet after Mohammed(saw), then that would have made them non Muslim. Mirza Ahmed used the Prophets(saw) prophecy about the coming of Mehdi and claimed that for himself.
     
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    Pankaj, it is not for us question saudis, is it? It does not matter to me at all if ahmedias are or are not true muslims. What matters is Darool should first take up the matter with GOI with convincing argiuments. Or they can move the SC about it.
     
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    Pseudo means false. Pseudi Indians claim to be Indian citizens, but their true loyality is to foreign masters.

    I am not ihnterested in your posts about shia-sunni theologies too. It does not matter here.
     
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    Why do you include (saw) after the name of Mohammed? Honest question from someone who has not been exposed to religion very much.

    The Indian state is secular and should not get involved in this disputes except to remind this Darool lot not to intimidate other citizens going about their lives.
     
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    Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold
    Peas porridge in the pot 9 days old
    Some like it hot, some like it cold
    Some like it in the pot 9 days old.
     
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    Lol Sir, the difference between an "e" and an "a" is a pretty unsavory porridge!!
     
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    Yeah. Apologies for the same, needful done.
     
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    I believe that is the wordings of a Punjabi song!
     

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