Dalit PhD student Rohith Vemula commits suicide: Hyderabad University students cry foul

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  1. Vishwarupa

    Vishwarupa Senior Member Senior Member

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    26-year-old Rohith Vemula, committed suicide on Sunday evening. Vemula was a second year PhD student. According to The New Indian Express report, Vemula was active in student politics, but had grown increasingly silent after the disciplinary action was initiated against him by the university. The Joint Action Committee (JAC) of various student groups said Rohith was highly depressed due to suspension and expulsion from the hostel.

    What led to the incident

    This incident stems from an incident that occurred in August last year, the Ambedkar Students Association (ASA), along with Ambedkar Reading Group, University of Delhi, Ambedkar Periyar Study Circle, IIT Madras, ASA (TISS) in Mumbai and concerned students from IIT Bombay issued a joint statement condemning an Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) attack on screening of Muzaffarnagar Baaqi Hain. Later, ASA's University of Hyderabad chapter organised a protest demonstration.

    According to Counter Currents, five dalit students were asked to vacate their accommodation in January 2016 and were asked to find different quarters for themselves. Their living spaces were locked by the hostel administration. One of the reasons cited for this was that the students opposed the death sentences awarded to Yakub Memon.

    JAC said the student was hurt due to the social boycott. The research scholars were expelled from their hostel in December. They were denied access to hostels and other buildings on the campus except their classroom, library and conferences and workshops related to their subject of study. They were evicted from their rooms on January and since then they were forced to sleep in a makeshift tent on the campus.

    he screening of Muzaffarnagar Baaqi Hain was stalled by the ABVP and according to the report on Counter Currents, derogatory remarks against ASA students were made on the Facebook page. When an apology was demanded, local BJP and RSS supporters pressurised the vice-chancellor of the university to expel the ASA leaders based on "false allegations".

    This did not stick because of student protests. According to another report on Counter Currents on this issue, the students (Dontha Prashanth, Rohith Vemula, Vijay Kumar, Seshu Chemudugunta and Sunkanna) were also denied permission to participate in the student union elections.

    After the then VC's retirement, new chancellor — Apparao — was appointed. Apparao promptly dismissed the students after receiving a letter from the HRD ministry. The move was recommended by Bandaru Dattatreya, Secunderabad MP and Minister of Labour and Employment, who called the ASA group "casteist, extremist and anti-national". Read the letter here.

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    Rohit Vemula. [email protected]

    The suicide and student politics

    Vemula, the UoH student who committed suicide by hanging himself on the university campus on Sunday;

    The used the blue banner of ASA for hanging. Vemula was known for his active participation in student politics. However, post the disciplinary action initiated against him by the varsity administration, he had grown extraordinarily silent. He along with four other suspended students had been staging protest on the campus for last 15 days. They were sleeping in open to protest expulsion from the hostel. On Sunday, Rohith left the camp to spend the day in NRS hostel room.

    Pranay Rupani, a fellow PhD student who met with Vemula during the protests told Firstpost, "The University Administration could have handled this so much better and in the process saved the life of a young research scholar. The University is nothing like that, and the minister of labour and employment should be busy creating jobs not getting involved in a campus scuffles."

    Criticising the way the university administration is trying to stifle dissent among students, Rupani added, "If we cannot have a free opinion in an informed deliberative space like a University then what is the use of a democracy, what is the use of my vote."

    Shortly after the news of his suicide broke, various student activist groups have expressed their solidarity and support.

    Ambedkar Periyar Circle tweeted:

    According to this NDTV report, a group of students sat with Vemula's body all night and refused to allow a funeral unless the university authorities gave them a listen. A police team arrived later and took the body and eight students were arrested. Rupani mentioned that police lathi charged students, including the mother and sister who were present near the dead body. The police took the body away for post mortem after a scuffle.

    Speaking to Firstpost, Rupani said that the university sent a letter stating the university will be closed without disclosing any information.

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    Screenshot of the mail sent by the university to its students.

    In his suicide letter, Vemula wrote that he "always wanted to be a writer. A writer of science, like Carl Sagan. At last, this is the only letter I am getting to write...Our feelings are second handed. Our love is constructed. Our beliefs colored. Our originality valid through artificial art. It has become truly difficult to love without getting hurt. The value of a man was reduced to his immediate identity and nearest possibility. To a vote. To a number. To a thing. Never was a man treated as a mind. As a glorious thing made up of star dust. In every field, in studies, in streets, in politics, and in dying and living."

    Drawing attention to the fact that he had yet to receive a pending scholarship stipend — worth Rs 1,75,000, Vemula urged readers to ensure that the sum be disbursed to his family.

    http://www.firstpost.com/india/dali...ral-university-students-cry-foul-2588166.html

    This type of sentimentalization & sensationalize of incident is expected by Foreign funded media houses & that too BJP center this news will demonize & create further rift between Hindus.

    How to tackle such incidents, we have Mussies aggression, evangelical activities by christian groups & now our own Hindu brothers are furthering the division of Hindus.

    I feel we can tackle NGOs, Evangelical christian groups, Mussies & media by bringing in awareness & exposing them, but tackling this castesim & infighting of Hindus is bigger hindrance to nations unity & security.

    Dalits cause is already hijacked by Muslims & Christians, why are Hindus not understanding this? i have seen Muslim & christians joining Ambedkar & periyar groups & taking advantage of Hindus.
     
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  3. brahmastra11

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    His job was to study and he should have been done that first instead of supporting a sentenced terrorist by Law of Land.

    Hope we all start boycotting all anti national fringe elements. First to start with so called celebrities.
     
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    If you support terrorists who have waged a war against the society then you will face social boycott. Isn't that common sense logic understood by these self-professed 'intellectuals'?

    Also, communists have a history of killing their own to gain false sympathy and to create a sense of solidarity among their ranks. Making false rape cases is also one of their favorite tactics. In villages, the Naxals put on the uniform of police and shoot common villagers to create a false sense of hatred against the security forces. They are guerrillas who have waged a war against the democratic establishment and are trying to undermine people's faith in the law and order system to create chaos. If the death of one of their own will get them widespread coverage then they wont hesitate to kill their own to accuse others. That's where Kejru's self-inflicted ink attack tactics also stem from. The modus operandi is simple : Injure a fellow comrade in a false flag attack, accuse your opponents, use it as an opportunity to galvanize your own cadres. West Bengal elections are coming, so we can expect more such dramas. This in line with they did with Dadri before Bihar elections.

    I also wonder why NDVT is the only one in the forefront of covering these stage managed dramas? It's quite possible that NDTV is the one coaching them to enact these scenes to gain mileage out of it. NDTV is the mouthpiece of communists. It will do all it can to stop the rise of a positive image of India.
     
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  5. Vishwarupa

    Vishwarupa Senior Member Senior Member

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    I agree with you both,

    my question was how to come out of this problem? Dalit cause is hijacked by Abrahamic religions & certain section of Hindus are hands in gloves with India breaking forces & have become foot solders of westerns( be it leftist, evangelical christians, NGOs, Congress, AAP, Communist parties etc) in India.
     
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    Nuvneet Kundu Senior Member Senior Member

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    Actually your news article itself mentions the solution to this problem : Stop treating them with kid gloves.

    A bunch of Naxals were going to have a screening of anti-national propaganda, the institute didn't allow them to do so. When they tried to cause trouble, the institute put their foot down and asked them to vacate the premises. This is the best way to solve the problem; Nip it in the bud before it becomes a full fledged anti-national lobby group like Jamia and JNU. Anyway, Central government is going to take away the minority status of Jamia and AMU. There is no need for my hard earned tax money to be spent on jihadi institutions could have their little anti-national circlejerks. If they want to run minority institutions, let them fund it with minority money. We are a secular nation, we can't be seen as favoring any particular religion. Next, we should stop Haj, subsidies, why? because we are secular nation. We have already stopped pampering the FTII Naxals and they have been asked to collect their leaving certificates and stop being a burden on the taxpayer. Tax-payer funded institutions cannot be used for anti-national purposes.

    The reason they loved sickularism is because it allowed them to be a parasite on Hindu tax money. Start following the French model of secularism and these snakes will get straightened within no time. No Burqa, no Haj subsidies, no reservations.

    Welcome to Secularism ver. 2.0.
     
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    Why these students protested against Memon's hanging ?? University did the right thing to expel those anti national elements...

    Shame on those who commit suicide ... they are cowards...
     
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    PredictablyMalicious Punjabi Senior Member

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    Not surprised to see subhuman comments. So if you oppose this guy's death penalty, you're a traitor and deserve to die? Yea, ok.
     
  9. Nuvneet Kundu

    Nuvneet Kundu Senior Member Senior Member

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    No outsider told him that he deserved to die. The guy arrived at that conclusion himself.
     
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    I am from the same university. We had this issue with Ambedkar Students Association even earlier. They have always indulged in hooliganism and assaults on us during elections in Hostels and for students union. There was a case when they beat up a friend of mine and when we protested, the news next day showed that the higher caste students intimidated ASA.
    I stopped believing newspapers and TV reports from that point on.
    Even this news article is one sided and I do not believe that it reflects what actually happened. I can get news from my friends who teach there now if needed.
     
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    Your question is wrong.

    It would be Yes if you correct your question as "So if you oppose sentence of anti national / traitor / a terrorist sentenced by law of land then you are a traitor and you are deserved to be expelled from society ?"

    No one killed him. It was a suicide committed by him for self committed mistake.

    Care to post right questions to get right answer. And be clear what you are posting.
     
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    Who has said this guy deserve to die ?
     
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    I have never seen these guys protesting against terrorist related incidents.

    This is new thing.

     
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    How can terrorists themselves protest against terrorist related incidents? :pound:

    These are just Naxal terrorists masquerading as civil society activists. They have no wish to learn. Their only agenda to join any college is to recruit more cadres for their Naxal activities. They have brainwashed and ruined the lives of many normal children who only went there to get good education.

    Look at the irony of the situation, this boy who got a 10th, then 12th, then undergraduate, then graduate, then post graduate, then PhD seat due to reservation is claiming that the system is unfair towards people like him and hence he felt the need to fight it. Imagine what must be going on in the minds of all the deserving students whose seats these kind of people steal to get admission?

    General category students are the real disadvantaged class in our society.
     
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    The thing is these guys are fed with left ideologies in campus and are mostly behave like rebels.

    Protesting against Yakub Memon's Hanging is new thing, Security agencies should have a look into the activities in these campuses.
     
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    There goes the next budget session in parliament...
     
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    I saw a very nice documentary which said that the lines between civil society and state security apparatus has blurred with 4th generation warfare and the modern battlefield is the civilian's mindspace. If you manage to convince a person of any class (muslim/sc/st/feminists) via repeated prime time news deliberately hyping up the narrative of victimhood, then even those people who are a part of the security establishment would be dissuaded from doing their job. Just yesterday there was a case of a muslim police officer running away with 4 AK47 guns from the police station to join the militants.

    In fact, when the Mukti Bahini was attacking East Pakistan, it was not the tactical attacks that broke the back of the Pakistanis, rather, the whole movement genuinely convinced the Bengali military division commanders there that Pakistan is the enemy. It is only when they refused to fight against the Mukti Bahini and defected to India that the Bangladesh war was won.

    The present Naxal movement (and jihadis, and feminazis) works exactly on that principle. It convinces people from all walks of life be it news anchors, police, military, rich, poor, educated, uneducated, IAS, IPS, IRS (take for example Maulana Kejriwal), that the society is being unjust to them and they have gotten a raw deal. It further creates new fault lines (gender, LGBT) within the pre-existing conventional fault lines (class, caste, religion, ethnicity). And so it becomes difficult to draw the line between good and bad. When everyone feels like a victim it undermines the will of our security establishment to fight. Even legitimate use of police force to stop a riot is portrayed as 'state sponsored oppression'. So use of force becomes difficult and counter-productive, but if you don't use force and let the riot go on then it alienates silent, sane people like me and you, and even we start losing faith in the law and order machinery. It's a catch22 situation, damned if you act, damned if you don't. That's exactly what Maulana Amir Khan's statements about growing 'intolerance' intended to do. Create a sense of gloom and distrust against your own government by sowing seeds of distrust. That's why that midget got thrashed nicely.

    This is also why the media hypes up any anti-narcotics, anti-prostitution, anti-terror raid as an assault on human rights, to portray the police in poor light and to demoralize them from doing their job. If they stop doing their job then crime will grow.

    When you say, something needs to be done, it is not the establishment that can do it, it is us people who need to spread awareness.

    Here's the documentary, I highly recommend it.

     
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    Well said, have been hearing this "problem statement" for sometime now. Any ideas on solutions to counter 4th generation warfare without violating freedom of expression...
     
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    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    He is coward at-least he may mentioned 1/2 persons or organizations name in his suicide note.Waste fellow

    btw

    Suicides are routine in AP&Telangana states.After corrupt YSR death 3000 people committed suicides(Jagan doing Oadarpu yatra for them) and in Telangana agitation 2000+students. :pound:


    Another dadri/aklaq in making like always BJP fall in muzzie&secular trap.
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Yeah, we have zero tolerance for anti national filth which is why rats like you would not be allowed to enter back if shit ever hits the fan in Canada and they start opening their gas chambers again and mistake Hindus as muzzies. If USA is any indication, that seems to be what is in store for you all. Good luck
     
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    I am surprised the article even mentions he was boycotted for supporting yakub memon. Usually the chu in media will just say he was boycotted for being a dalit and that's about it.


    The chu brought this to himself. I hope every anti national filth commits suicide like him. Less 5th column elements to deal with
     
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