CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the sky

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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    I think a lot of changes has to be integrated.

    1. Sensors have to be incorporated which can see through foliage.
    2. The Army version was required to pick up weapons which are over 1m2 in dimension. But as such weapons are not used by naxals/maoists it has to be re-calibrated with higher resolution optics.But the positive side is that the Nishant can be made to fly at a low altitude as Naxals don't have weapons to down them.

    3. But it has limitations it cannot effectively tell difference between a gathering of tribal and maoists.
    4. It can best aid Human intelligence and cannot replace it.

    5. The Netra micro UAV should be used on a laeger scale during operation to bust the Naxal hideouts and predicting their positions on higher ground.
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    Excellent observation & suggestions. Importance of HUMINT cannot be over-stressed.

    Sensors incorporation for foliage-penetration is underway (a private company in Hyderabad is doing some work for DRDO)

    Micro UAV's potential is no doubt enormous but can anyone throw some light on the degree of success/utility these have achieved in Afghanistan?

    UK forces/SAS were major users of them, right?
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    This article in the link highlights the deficiency faced by Heron UAV used by NTRO
    Heron drone proves a dud in tracking Maoists in Chattisgarh : East, News - India Today
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    "Friend-foe identification" remains the Achilles heal for all surveillance tech. & sensors. IAI usually makes quality & reliable stuff.
    But it's not much intelligence one can capture, but what one does with it to make it an actionable stuff.
    That differentiates the wannabes from the real players & veterans.
     
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    yes, "friend-foe" identification is difficult and also how to convert raw footage into actionable stuff.

    for the hardware part, IAI never customized heron for this purpose, also the way it was put to use was hardly inspiring
    article in the link highlighting the same
    IAF's Israeli drones of not much use in Naxal-hit Chhattisgarh
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    The only achilles heal is that our forces are battling an enemy which is supported by JNU professors and the whitewoman from Italy.
    Can American army with all its stuff, defeat a militia of Afghans supported by Obama and his clique? A big no so no surveillance or putting army in can solve the problem.
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    Excellent analogy but I believe that there is more to it than that.

    Corporate' s & mining mafia have intentionally created a Civil-War like situation in these so-called liberated zones. It's the business(mafia)-babu-neta nexus that is difficult to break. The prevailing conditions serve the purpose of this nexus, in some ways & they are happy with the status-quo.

    Maoist's are only too happy to collude with them, for they feel insecure (correctly) that if somehow development reaches these tribal, they would abandon the Maoist in quest for greener pastures, so they are busy IED-ing all roads/bridges/schools/hospitals/innocents in pursuit of their "Total Anarchy" mission.

    CRPF/BSF guys & poor tribal are paying the cost of this with their lives & limbs.
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s


    Sir I was born in a district which has a very large number of tribals and I can tell you by my experience that people in interior areas know which men are naxal supporters and which not.

    In the village of my maternal grandfather, there were only a few naxal supporters but they were known to us and tribals alike and were notorious for killing of tribal policemen. A young tribal inspector had his throat slit by these Maoist bastards so for god's sake we need someone to break this silence.

    If a small man like me can know several men as naxals, what are intelligence agencies doing? What are our security forces doing?

    the answer is that tribals have been used as human shields by naxals and top leadership of congress has always used naxals to achieve its ends like assasination of rival leaders. Mahendra Karma and Baliram Kashyap had lost their brothers in naxal attacks yet they continued the fight and if you read a bit (go back to 2003 and 2004 and read the tussle between Karma and that evangelist Ajit Jogi) , you will find the objective of this attack was to deplete congress with any anti naxal forces.

    What is amazing is that people on this forum( who calls me dangerous for country) are just evading the real issue by concentrating on this and that technical stuff. Common sense tells us that Indian army can not be that ridiculous to fail to eliminate a bunch of few thousand killers with its present armoury and collateral damages have never been great even in kashmir after 1995 where to be honest , local support was more than what naxals have today.

    Alas, the question is apart from Subramaniam Swamy, there is no one to tell that emperor has no clothes.(empress in this case).

    the members should mark my words . No action shall be taken against naxals due to a very complex phenomenon which is beyond the scope of topic.


    There is a pattern of this from russia to cambodia to naxalbari. They can be defeated easily by will, increasing surface troops ratio and adopting a multi pronged strategy but the question is are we brave enough to rise above inconsequential details and address the real issue?

    The discussion on forum tells me that we are not and that is very sad.

    Till then let our jawans getting killed and tribal women sexually abused by maoists.

    What a shame for a nation of Lalitaditya.
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    Please elaborate on this complex phenomena. I do not have much first hand knowledge.

    What exactly is the pattern? How can you tell they can be defeated so easily? What exactly is "new" in your multi-pronged strategy?

    Though I fully agree with you that tribal are used as human-shields by Maoists. And, that Maoists are political weapons ready to be sold to the highest bidder & they specialize in political assassinations.
     
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    Re: CRPF-DRDO combine to provide anti-Maoist troops their eye in the s

    @MAYURA, I am still waiting for the reply to my queries, above.
    You can PM me, if you need to, but I would really like to understand all this.
     
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