Crashes raise concern about Pakistani air force

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anyone noticed the specs of JFT from zhuhai airshow 2012?



4600kg payload is awesome.there is one picture of JFT older picture though with dual racks on 2nd and 6th hardpoint
confirmation that JFT can even take 6 BVR


Length: 14.0m
Height: 5.1m
Wingspan: 8.5m
Normal Take-off Weight: 9,100kg
Maximum Take-off Weight: 12,700kg
Maximum Thrust 8,700kg (afterburn)
Maximum External Stores: 4,600kg
Take-off and Landing Distance: 380/650m
Max Speed (mach): 1.6
Service ceiling: <16,700m
Ferry range: 2037km
 
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KLJ-7 has a 75km detection range for 3m2 Target. Hence:
For 20m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 121km
For 15m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 112km
For 12.5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 107km
For 10m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 101km
For 8.5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 97km
For 5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 85km
For 1m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 57km


3m2 is the worldwide standard.
 

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Janes source quoted the older specs

nt the latest

Air vice marshal of PAF is nt lying.
ooh come ur general can lie that pak won 1965 war & kargil war was fought by mujahideen no army was involved as per ur general . Who is your Air vice marshal international court judge ? :scared1:
 

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Older specs by klj-7 manufacturer
bt again klj-7 was tweaked in 2009-10

directly from the manufacturer(though from 2007)
 

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KLJ-7 has a 75km detection range for 3m2 Target. Hence:
For 20m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 121km
For 15m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 112km
For 12.5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 107km
For 10m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 101km
For 8.5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 97km
For 5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 85km
For 1m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 57km


3m2 is the worldwide standard.
Air vice marshal is lying?

yes or no?

all your figures are older.


klj-7 range for 5m2 is now 130km.agree ok dnt agreed ok once again
 

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anyone noticed the specs of JFT from zhuhai airshow 2012?



4600kg payload is awesome.there is one picture of JFT older picture though with dual racks on 2nd and 6th hardpoint
confirmation that JFT can even take 6 BVR
Boss I agree JFT is 100% better than what IAF has today & it is going to have in future , tell me why ur not attacking IAF's obsolute aircraft & liberating India from UPA-1 & UPA-2

When will we seee zaid hamid & u engaging IAF in Air to Air combat using white invisible horse & don't forget to bring the flag to hoist in Delhi
 
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I will stick to Jane's numbers. Air Marshall can say anything to give credibility
to a plane which lacks it. This radar was a Zhuk phazotron reverseed engineered
copy but the Zhuk gave 50% better range then this copy.
 

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I will stick to Jane's numbers. Air Marshall can say anything to give credibility
to a plane which lacks it. This radar was a Zhuk phazotron reverseed engineered
copy but the Zhuk gave 50% better range then this copy.
well you can stick to janes or fanes or whatever

fact will never change

130km for 5m2
 

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Older specs by klj-7 manufacturer
bt again klj-7 was tweaked in 2009-10

directly from the manufacturer(though from 2007)
It says 105 km range for 5m2, not 130km as I thought before. Maybe we all need to check our sources. I had been hearing 130 km at PDF and never doubted it. Now, it seems that the radar range is lesser than I thought.
 

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KLJ-7 has a 75km detection range for 3m2 Target. Hence:
For 20m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 121km
For 15m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 112km
For 12.5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 107km
For 10m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 101km
For 8.5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 97km
For 5m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 85km
For 1m2, KLJ-7 detection range is 57km


3m2 is the worldwide standard.
What formula are you using?
 

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It says 105 km range for 5m2, not 130km as I thought before. Maybe we all need to check our sources. I had been hearing 130 km at PDF and never doubted it. Now, it seems that the radar range is lesser than I thought.
this poster is very old..

Klj-7 was tweaked in 2009-10.because it had problem with bvr integration.
though the improved range was confirmed by Air vice marshal junaid in interview to kanwa news.posted above from the original kunal post in JFT thread
 

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for every 1m2 increase in target size detection range increases by 3.4- 5km roughly
Nah, there is some formula which can be used to find detection range for any RCS if detection range for a particular RCS is known. Don't remember it, but there is no generalization of the form which your talking about.
 
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That is why there is fifty percent variance if you have formula post it
RCS stays the same range decides detection
 

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