CPEC: Pakistan, China agree on four-layer security

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  1. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    http://tribune.com.pk/story/983033/economic-corridor-pakistan-china-agree-on-four-layer-security/

    As seen article taken off pak media express tribune
    some points :-
    # An estimated 32,000 security personnel will guard over 14,321 Chinese workers
    # includes over 500 Chinese security personnel
    # Balochistan would get more security, as six wings (5,700 personnel) of the Frontier Corps, 3,000 police constables

    also the folllowing :-
    “NADRA would maintain the record of Chinese nationals residing in or visiting Pakistan, and would share its records with all the federal and provincial authorities of the country,” said an official spokesman for the interior ministry.

    “For Pakistan, it is a do-or-die situation,” former chief of NACTA, Hamid Ali Khan said.

    end of quotes
    now what does Hamid Khan Former chief of NACTA mena that it is do or die ?

    perhaps some pakistani members can help explain ? tia .
    besides that to indian and all members i would note that packland is inviting prc security personnel into "their" land - it is becoming china-stan ? and also the number of personnel involved , will it be a strain on the state or there's lots more ?
    tia for your comments , please

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  3. bose

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    @roma There is nothing foolproof ... The one's from the 32,000 security groups will carry out the attacks on the Chinese workers... It is very likely from a country where minister's own security guard carry out the assignations ...
     
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    they will only gaurd Chinese people and their machinery's only nothing eles........
     
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    In India only national events and cricket matches are provided such higher level security.
    I didn't expect the workers need elite security even to lay a road in Pakistan !!!
    What a junk state they are at !!!
     
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    Blame it on the security ... If anything goes wrong.

    In Africa the PRC able to do for many years without paki frontier corps ? Is it what was done in Africa not what Pakistan wants.

    Why would anyone want to attack PRC individuals in Pakistan ? Why having list it is creating a superiority complex where PRC individuals are above Pakistan people. Pakistan becoming a North Korea !! No Pakistan will question PRC ... Someone might start looking for Pakistan opinions on PRC (on trust and reliability).
     
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    China's ambition with CPEC is regional dominance and independence. Pakistan is the key for a "more controllable" ally having access to the Indian Ocean and a perfect port: Gwadar.

    Pakistan, on the other hand, is more interested in neutralizing Indian claims on PoK. What Pakistan sees in the action is Chinese alliance with Pakistan, the truth is China wanting to establish its own strategic interest.

    Pakistan here is just a victim of use and throw strategy, soon shall we hear about it.
     
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    All the money will go towards maintaining security !! In case of a suicide attack it will back to square one...

    Pakistan can not provide security ... end of story !!
     
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    @roma, the do-or-die-situation must be seen as a precondition or demand set by the Chinese regarding safety and security of Chinese workers. Without extra security, the CPEC is a no go and I agree with that,
    Foreign workers have been attacked, abducted and killed before hence Balochistan lacks FDI.
    Local feudal sardars are as dangerous as foreign funded and supported terrorists. Several countries have vested interests in the region hence they're opposed to the development of Gwadar and teh creation of CPEC.

    This new security agreements is a clear indication of how serious both countries are about the new corridor.
     
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    Thank fully multiple reports suggest that this effort is going down the drain, Thank fully due to corrupt army and politicians. The projects were not properly planned and costs have increased. Chinese are not happy with this.
    Though porkies are not a challenge to India any more, i hope secrete services are doing what ever to derail/slowdown this project.
    "Bandar ke haath mein talwar nuksan de sakti hai" either ways bakis would be moving towards Chinese slavery even if projects is a success. They are paying 24% interest rate....porkies to poorkies..
     
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    This security arrangement proves how pathetic the security climate in Pakistan really is. This also proves that our "Kaante se Kaanta" plan is in full swing.

    Time has come for our Mr. Doval to shine brightly. CPEC must be sabotaged and destroyed beyond recognition. It will serve as an example for all anti-India elements in South Asia.

    24% interest annually! Did China just sell a credit card to Pakistan?
     
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    Why they need Chinese workforce to build a road ?
     
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    The do-or-die phrase is indeed articulate with a strong sense of urgency after so much talking.

    TANGIBLE PROGRESS China-Pakistan Economic Corridor gains momentum in Pakistan
    It's much needed at a time good platforms for China's outbound investment are being sought.
     
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    The fact that the Chinese are bringing their own security personnel along as a sort of praetorian guard as well speaks volumes about the kind of trust the Chinese have on the Pakistanis.
    The problem being that the rank and file of the PA is largely madrassah educated and is liable to fly into a rage when confronted with acts that may or may not signify blasphemy, for example if the Chinese decide to have a pork barbecue or if a local maulvi insists that they will get their 72 if they kill Chinese.
     
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    Its nothing less than credit card for them, even KSA has no investments in that naPak state.
     
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    I think the Chinese workers would have some sort of instructions for how to behave in a Islamic country. You though underestimate the potential of pak sucking up to Chinese, afterall they can't hurt the hands feeding them. They'll make sure all maulvi officers are kept at a distance from Chinese.
     
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    to give prc men a chance for pak womenand vice -versa

    how to behave ?
    look at this
    the prc-pak relationships have already started

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/984394/...stani-runaway-boyfriend-held-in-muzaffargarh/

    nothing wrong though, nothing like giving pak men an women some friendly competition

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    Only person with brain will be a work force . Pakistani =brain less
     
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    Pakistan Will Provide 'Special Force' to Defend Chinese Investments

    Pakistan plans to create a “special force” of 10,000 troops to protect Chinese workers and industries along the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a Pakistani minister said on Wednesday. Pakistan’s Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Syed Tariq Fatemi made the announcement in Beijing, where he held talks with Chinese officials (including State Councilor Yang Jiechi).

    According to People’s Daily, Fatemi said that Pakistan has decided to create a special force of “highly trained military people” whose “task will be to provide the necessary safety and security of Chinese working in Pakistan and the Chinese companies and industries set up there.” He added that the new force “will be specially equipped and will have special organizations in concerned ministries backing them.”

    Fatemi said the decision reflects Islamabad’s strong commitment to the CPEC project. He also said that the Pakistani government would take additional security steps as needed, based on regular discussions with China.

    CPEC is a massive undertaking that will see China pump $46 billion in investments in Pakistan, in sectors from railways to energy to industry (here’s a list of the various projects from Pakistan’s Ministry of Planning, Development, and Reform). China has pegged the CPEC, which links Pakistan’s Gwadar Port with Kashgar in China’s Xinjiang province, as a “flagship project” of its larger “Belt and Road” initiative.

    Yet from the beginning, the project has been plagued by security concerns. Gwadar Port, for example, is located in Balochistan, home to a long-standing insurgency (and things could get worse thanks to the CPEC, which has many Balochs worried that they will become marginalized in their own land). China has consistently (though quietly) raised its security concerns in discussions about the CPEC with Pakistani leaders, resulting in repeated commitments from Pakistan to ensure the safety of Chinese citizens and investments.

    Pakistan is eager to give those assurances, because it is counting on CPEC to solve many of its most pressing economic issues, from jump-starting Pakistani industry to solving the country’s energy deficit. Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has even called the CPEC a “game changer” not only for Pakistan, but for the whole region. The downside to all this optimism is that there is no plan B should the project ultimately be derailed by security concerns. Thus Islamabad has taken the extreme step of creating a special force specifically to protect Chinese interests in Pakistan.

    The move is paying off in Beijing. On Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lu Kang was asked whether China was “satisfied” with the security measures Pakistan was taking. In response, he praised Pakistan’s government for its “tremendous efforts to protect Chinese institutions and personnel in Pakistan,” saying China was “deeply grateful.”
    http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/pakistan-will-provide-special-force-to-defend-chinese-investments/

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    pakis getting another investor to Milk in the name of "terrorism".
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