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CEPC is nothing but same ols british east india company at that time muslim elite deu to its own corruption and incompetence and fear of ever agressive marathas sided with british this time around they are doing the same with china ... khair sannu ki

but the biggest obstacle to CEPC is punjabi greed which want CEPC to pass through punjab when it was to pass thru G&B to KPK and from there to gawadar rest keep speculating ....... choorre kee dhee chamaro ke jaye sannu ki :pound:
 

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CEPC is nothing but same ols british east india company at that time muslim elite deu to its own corruption and incompetence and fear of ever agressive marathas sided with british this time around they are doing the same with china ... khair sannu ki

but the biggest obstacle to CEPC is punjabi greed which want CEPC to pass through punjab when it was to pass thru G&B to KPK and from there to gawadar rest keep speculating ....... choorre kee dhee chamaro ke jaye sannu ki :pound:
If CPEC goes on, pak will become a Chinese colony.
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Tau, mhare ko toh iss baat ki chinta laagari sai:
pakistan's own paper tribinepk said:
If current speed of India's revival goes on, gap between India and pakistan will be equal to US and Mexico.
And this is when, India is doing things itself, meanwhile pakis are not only dependent on China, their policies are decided by China. :pound:
 

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If CPEC goes on, pak will become a Chinese colony.
:rotflmao:
Tau, mhare ko toh iss baat ki chinta laagari sai:

And this is when, India is doing things itself, meanwhile pakis are not only dependent on China, their policies are decided by China. :pound:
purani kahawat hai hijro ke ghar beta hua saalo ne usko choom choom ker hi maar daala :pound:

aage aap khud andaaja lagaa lo ki kya kya hone wala hai :laugh:
 

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purani kahawat hai hijro ke ghar beta hua saalo ne usko choom choom ker hi maar daala :pound:

aage aap khud andaaja lagaa lo ki kya kya hone wala hai :laugh:
China will export it's products like toys, textiles and electronics etc and pakis will be exporting their products like their sexy whores :basanti:

:drool::drool: to China. Resulting entry of sexually transmitted diseases in far east.
:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
 

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The China Pakistan Economic Corridor Myth.

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Pakistanis have been going to town about the China Pakistan Economic Corridor that would link their port of Gwadar to Kashgar in Xinjiang Province of China. Some Pakistani commentators have even said that soon rivers of gold would flow through Pakistan!! Really?

Ok. Let’s get a reality check…..

Out of this $46 billion ‘investment’ by China, $11 billion is being borrowed by Pakistan as a LOAN from China to build the road. Payback time is when it will start to hurt! The rest of the infrastructure is being made by Chinese companies which would be funded by Chinese banks. The cost the Pakistanis would therefore be paying for electricity would be around Rs18 -20 PKR per unit in contrast to an average of Rs 8 per unit what they're paying now!! After all, the Chinese companies aren't going to give their deeper-than-ocean friends any freebies as they would need to pay back their borrowings from banks including interest and make profits too!

Coal plants that are planned to be set up for energy are old existing coal fired ones that will be transferred to Pakistan as the Chinese have stopped coal fired plants due to climate change issues. So Pakistan would be saddled with old stuff producing more pollution than energy!! So much for reducing global warming!!

Have they calculated the cost of transportation along this road? An average of $460 per ton or Rs 46,000 PKR per ton from Pakistan to Kashgar! That's almost Rs 5 Lakhs PKR per 10-ton truck - more than the cost of what is being transported!! Would Pakistan’s exports to China, which are mostly low value goods, like rice, oranges, mangoes, furniture,cotton fibre, textiles, clothing, ice cream, powdered milk, vegetables etc along this road be viable? Not by a long shot!

Gwadar will be completely controlled by China operationally as it has been leased out to them for 40 years! Pakistan’s exports from here, if any, will be heavily taxed as the Chinese companies controlling the port will need to pay back loans to their banks as well as make profit.

More importantly, Pakistan’s provinces have already started fighting for the 'spoils' and putting spokes in the wheel! Like why is Sindh getting six power plants out of 11? The others are already up in arms and have threatened to scuttle the project. Vested interests will be one big speed-breaker to this project.

Employment generation? Most of the workers will be Chinese. Like the 11,000 stationed permanently in GB for infrastructure development. How many Pakistanis are working with the Chinese there? Just a handful!

Therefore, it's not all hunky dory as it sounds. And the Chinese, the businessmen that they are, will extract their pound of flesh from the ordinary Pakistani. There are no freebies in this world despite the 'deeper than the oceans' friendship!

And, finally and most importantly, the Chinese are making this 'economic corridor' for their own strategic and national interests. Their strategic aim is to establish a PLAAN base at Gwadar to try and dominate the Strait of Hormuz from where a large proportion of the world’s oil flows. Not only the Strait of Hormuz but also to try and dominate the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean. The CPEC is the only viable option for providing logistics support to their future naval base at Gwadar.

Pakistan is just a side show in this project.
The sooner this is realized by the Pakistanis, the better. All this talk of them achieving super power status due to the CPEC is a lot of bull and hot air.
 

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Its CHINA PAKISTAN TERROR CORRIDOR now at Play..
Afghan boys are really pissed off with the recent consulate attack..they have openly named the Pakistan army on the Terror plot..
Hot on Air now!!!
 

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PAK-CHINA BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY CONFERENCE TO BE HELD NEXT WEEK
Thursday, 14 January 2016 15:49

The Chinese business delegation will also visit Lahore and then go to Karachi to meet the Chief Ministers of Punjab and Sindh and discuss business opportunities in their respective provinces.

The Minister said during the conference, the senior officials of Pakistan will share five principal good news with the visiting participants that Pakistan has politically stabilized and it is a peaceful country for all the investors including Chinese businessmen.

Pakistan, he said, has achieved macro economic stability as it has sufficient foreign exchange reserves to meet its international obligations.

Pakistan, he said, has grappled with the energy crisis of electricity and natural gas, adding, under China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), there will be an investment of US$ 35 billion in energy sector only.

He said first Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) terminal is already operational while the second terminal will soon be set up to import large scale gas aimed at bringing growth to the industry and relief to the consumers.

Responding to a question, the minister informed that the draft of a three-year strategic trade policy framework has been sent to the prime minister for final approval.

"As soon as the prime minister accords approval, the policy will be announced," he added.

He said, the cabinet committee on export and production headed by Finance Minister, Senator Mohammad Ishaq Dar has already accorded approval to the policy framework.

The ministry of commerce has also accommodated the inputs of various stakeholders and experts to make the policy more trade and export oriented for the benefit of the country, he added.

About regional connectivity for shared prosperity, the minister said, it is the vision of the prime minister to promote regional trade with neighboring countries including Afghanistan and this trade should be expended to Central Asian Republics (CARs).

Under this vision, the government will import 1000 MW electricity from Tajikistan under CASA-1000 while Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) gas pipeline is being constructed to meet the energy need of these regional countries, he added.

When asked about the benefits of GSP Plus status given to Pakistan by the European Union (EU), he said, the exports have witnessed 33 percent increase due to this facility during the last 19 months.

The exported items were mainly ready-made garments and leader goods, he added.

While dispelling the apprehension about the GSP Plus status to Pakistan, he said, that Pakistan has fulfilled its all legal obligations through economic diplomacy in the EU and European Commission.

Responding to yet another question, he said, the ministry of commerce has focussed agriculture to enhance its exports by increasing its competitiveness.

Pakistan, he said, exported record volume of Potato and Kinnow to Russia last season while "We are making efforts to explore markets for Pakistani agriculture goods to further enhance exports to Central Asian countries, Malaysia and Indonesia."

He said that Philippine and Cuba have imported 10,000 tons and 15,000 tons of rice respectively while Indonesia has imported rice worth US$ 40 million during last few months.

He said that under market access, Pakistan is negotiating Free Trade Agreements (FTAs) with Turkey and Thailand while new markets will be explored in East Asia especially South Korea for the similar agreement.


http://www.brecorder.com/pakistan/b...ortunity-conference-to-be-held-next-week.html

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I think China would be able to save about 300 billion per annum by the means of CPEC.
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I see no proposed infrastructure development on the Western route through Balochistan. No wonder the Balochis are pissed!
 

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Can anyone tell me which CEPC road or project is near our border in J&k.so it will be in our artillery range
 

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Can anyone tell me which CEPC road or project is near our border in J&k.so it will be in our artillery range
Not completely but at certain points specifically at Thakot and Abbottabad.
The road is most vulnerable at Thakot where by we can just blowing bridges will be easy for IAF to choke the transport. Alternative root is a long detour via Peshawar.
 

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Doesn't anyone here understand what "economic corridor" means?

It is a route only for trade. If war breaks out, the trade will be shut down before India starts bombing.
All the military equipment will go through other route as 1971.
 

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Doesn't anyone here understand what "economic corridor" means?

It is a route only for trade. If war breaks out, the trade will be shut down before India starts bombing.
All the military equipment will go through other route as 1971.

not just trade, but also power generation units are planned, road constructions are planned, port facilities are planned. Thus increasing logistic capability.
 

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Doesn't anyone here understand what "economic corridor" means?

It is a route only for trade. If war breaks out, the trade will be shut down before India starts bombing.
All the military equipment will go through other route as 1971.
My two cents. :pound:
What's the guarantee that China only conducts trade through route?
Duming MTCR, you provided about 3500Km range BMs to Saudi Arabia.
And here?
You have got a direct road to land of pure. :biggrin2:
And now, PoK(on which this economic corridor is being built) is an integral part of India. Intruding other country's territory justifies troubles in SCS. :taunt2:
 

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China's Xinjiang Inks Two Billion Dollars Deal With Pakistan

The 2 billion dollar agreements covered infrastructure, solar power and logistics, among other projects, signed by companies from Xinjiang with their Pakistan counterparts, the newspaper said, without giving details.

China and Pakistan call each other ‘all-weather friends’ and their ties have been underpinned by long-standing wariness of their common neighbour, India.

While meeting Sharif the two countries agreed to continue working together to fight terrorism, strengthen border controls, maintain regional peace and stability and ensure the economic corridor projects are protected.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/wor...l-With-Pakistan/2016/04/08/article3370106.ece


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@amoy I heard somewhere ( a site)that China will be able to save "billions" by CPEC.
How many you will save and how? Can you elaborate?
 

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@amoy I heard somewhere ( a site)that China will be able to save "billions" by CPEC.
How many you will save and how? Can you elaborate?
Frankly no idea abt full rationale behind the billions. Out of my cuff ~ by means of CPEC,

1. security: all-weather ally Pakistan will be enabled to safeguard peace in the region_ post-NATO Afghanistan included.

2. energy: in addition to a gateway to the Arabian Sea,Pakistan may link China to the Gulf incl. Iran with a shorter route.

Will the above translate to billions? u tell me.

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will the above translate to billions?
You've explained yourself. :p
A shorter route to connect with Iran with a shorter route, linking with gulf countries.
Could generate some notable amount of dollars if not millions.
Thanks anyway. ;)
 

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