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Aha! Now this hare-brained Pak Pappu is threatening the US of A!! Does he plan to nuke them? Lol! This clown has lost his marbles! :crazy:
Yes, with their 2200km range ababeel with MIRV tech which will magically fly all the way to washington with the logic given by great arabic genius which says that if we keep something in air it will reach america as the earth rotates.
 

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GAME CHANGER

WHERE IS GAME CHANGED??

GAME WILL CHANGE AFTER YEAR

WHERE IS GAME CHANGER?

GAME WILL CHANGE AFTER 5 YRS

STILL NO GAME CHANGE


THERE IS NO GAME CHANGER THERE IS ONLY DEBT/SCAM/TERRORISM/
Other question is which GAME it's going to change? :confused1:
 

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Porkiland developed country in 2 to 3 years? Time to suicide !!
You don't have to go for these idiotic musinga even out.
There was other Pakistani member "Behind The Enemy Lines" claiming that CPEC will also benifit China putting its per capita income ahead of Singapore in two three years.:facepalm:
 

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You don't have to go for these idiotic musinga even out.
There was other Pakistani member "Behind The Enemy Lines" claiming that CPEC will also benifit China putting its per capita income ahead of Singapore in two three years.:facepalm:

With 90 crore chinese earning less than $10 a day? Good Luck with that. :pound::pound::crazy::crazy:
 

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Trolls have ruined another what was supposed to be an informative thread.
 

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I think that yahoo meant 2 to 3 decades! Even that is doubtful!
2-3 decades is impossible, even for India, not only Pakistan because if we are going developed countries aren't cities duck either.
British PwD gives most pessimistic meanwhile International Monetary fund gives most optimistic (and there comes world bank etc. organizations in between) for Indian growth meanwhile all have kept depressed estimates for both short & long term estimates for Pakistani per capita income growth.

India can have it's GDP per capita in order between $25,000 to $50,000 by 2050-60 in worst to best growth scenario, when developed countries will be in order of $100,000 to $150,000.

Or I say, India will be there in order of upper middle income economies like Eastern Europe (Croatia, Romania, Russia, Kazakhstan & Ukraine etc.) or Thailand, Malaysia, China today if you wanna take example of Asia Pacific but half to a quarter of countries like Germany, UK or USA.
India will take at least 2070-80 to be classified as a rich country.

Pakistan? It's per capita income growth rate has remained 33% less to just half of Indian, Myanma or Bangladeshi per capita growth rates and now projecting just 1/3rd.

For next 30 years even Afghanistan won't have any problem in achieving 60-70% GDP per capita of Pakistan.
I won't say about total economic growth though, Pakistani overall population growth is the real villain.
India and Bangladesh managed to cut them down sharply (population growth average till 2050 is close or lower than developed countries via UN medium fertility variant) with sustaining very low fertility ratio but unfortunately, Pakistani family planning program failed.
In 30 years, it won't gonna have living standards anywhere near Sri Lanka?

Regarding few arguments by Pakistanis over living standards:
  • Reputated orgs like Credit Suisse & Oxfam Report shows Pakistani growth aspects brighter and even today better living standards.
Credit Suisse & Oxfam have even put median incomes of Indian Citizens higher than some East European countries.
What Indians did? Even we laughed it away.
  • Pakistani poverty ratio is better.
Pakistan is yet to count it's population at first place. Poverty stats are there for only 120-130 millions people, nobody knows about rest 70 millions (even if they are less or more than 70 millions, we don't know, "estimates" by international institutions).

Even today, 22% of Pakistanis are underweight, 45.5% of urbans live in slums, a third of population can't read & write, Pakistanis have 20-35 times lesser intellectual properties and patents per capita than Indians,
they live shorter than other most South Asians, limited access to internet, they lag in HDI, quality of life index, hunger index, social progress index or elsewhere. It's Education Index lags behind Afghanistan.

I don't think just giving admiration to Credit Suisse & Oxfam because it puts Pakistani people's median wealth above Indians can change realities.
They don't match from a far gap when we see at social developmental records.
 

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Trolls have ruined another what was supposed to be an informative thread.
Much depends on how informative Pakistani friends are.
If they take 7% growth of China as adding $7,000 to per capita income every year, pity on them.:facepalm2:

Off Topic: Was in convo with your "THINK TANK". He's being hypocrite, either reply calling me troll butthurt or "everything Pakistan makes fake", "vedic technology" or contradicting mine or his points (can't understand whose :facepalm:) for missile altitude.
Denies to put any spin stabilized booster or guidance system with Ababeel, still wants to get elevated trajectory.
Would you like to have some humble arguments with me?
 

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2-3 decades is impossible, even for India, not only Pakistan because if we are going developed countries aren't cities duck either.
British PwD gives most pessimistic meanwhile International Monetary fund gives most optimistic (and there comes world bank etc. organizations in between) for Indian growth meanwhile all have kept depressed estimates for both short & long term estimates for Pakistani per capita income growth.

India can have it's GDP per capita in order between $25,000 to $50,000 by 2050-60 in worst to best growth scenario, when developed countries will be in order of $100,000 to $150,000.

Or I say, India will be there in order of upper middle income economies like Eastern Europe (Croatia, Romania, Russia, Kazakhstan & Ukraine etc.) or Thailand, Malaysia, China today if you wanna take example of Asia Pacific but half to a quarter of countries like Germany, UK or USA.
India will take at least 2070-80 to be classified as a rich country.

Pakistan? It's per capita income growth rate has remained 33% less to just half of Indian, Myanma or Bangladeshi per capita growth rates and now projecting just 1/3rd.

For next 30 years even Afghanistan won't have any problem in achieving 60-70% GDP per capita of Pakistan.
I won't say about total economic growth though, Pakistani overall population growth is the real villain.
India and Bangladesh managed to cut them down sharply (population growth average till 2050 is close or lower than developed countries via UN medium fertility variant) with sustaining very low fertility ratio but unfortunately, Pakistani family planning program failed.
In 30 years, it won't gonna have living standards anywhere near Sri Lanka?

Regarding few arguments by Pakistanis over living standards:
  • Reputated orgs like Credit Suisse & Oxfam Report shows Pakistani growth aspects brighter and even today better living standards.
Credit Suisse & Oxfam have even put median incomes of Indian Citizens higher than some East European countries.
What Indians did? Even we laughed it away.
  • Pakistani poverty ratio is better.
Pakistan is yet to count it's population at first place. Poverty stats are there for only 120-130 millions people, nobody knows about rest 70 millions (even if they are less or more than 70 millions, we don't know, "estimates" by international institutions).

Even today, 22% of Pakistanis are underweight, 45.5% of urbans live in slums, a third of population can't read & write, Pakistanis have 20-35 times lesser intellectual properties and patents per capita than Indians,
they live shorter than other most South Asians, limited access to internet, they lag in HDI, quality of life index, hunger index, social progress index or elsewhere. It's Education Index lags behind Afghanistan.

I don't think just giving admiration to Credit Suisse & Oxfam because it puts Pakistani people's median wealth above Indians can change realities.
They don't match from a far gap when we see at social developmental records.
Don't forget their public debt has risen to Rs. 18 trillion now.
 

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Russia should not meddle in regional issues, joining the CPEC is equivalent to siding with India's enemies. CPEC threatens India's territorial integrity, it must be turned into dust.
I do not think it will happen now when Russia in in the process of some Defense deals like the Frigates, S 400, nuclear submarine and possibly Mig 35. They should stay neutral. They also gave weapons to Vietnam to counter China and increasing their relationship with South Korea, Japan and Philippines.
 

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Much depends on how informative Pakistani friends are.
If they take 7% growth of China as adding $7,000 to per capita income every year, pity on them.:facepalm2:

Off Topic: Was in convo with your "THINK TANK". He's being hypocrite, either reply calling me troll butthurt or "everything Pakistan makes fake", "vedic technology" or contradicting mine or his points (can't understand whose :facepalm:) for missile altitude.
Denies to put any spin stabilized booster or guidance system with Ababeel, still wants to get elevated trajectory.
Would you like to have some humble arguments with me?
There are hardly any Pakistani members active in this thread other than me. You must leave your obsession with PDF and not drag it into every Pakistan related thread, that makes you a troll here, something I have tried to tell you earlier.
 

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Yes, with their 2200km range ababeel with MIRV tech which will magically fly all the way to washington with the logic given by great arabic genius which says that if we keep something in air it will reach america as the earth rotates.
Roohaani taaqat ©,my friend...
 

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You must leave your obsession with PDF and not drag it into every Pakistan related thread, that makes you a troll here, something I have tried to tell you earlier.
I'm active on all defense forums and telling about PDF was a mere example for what I told you.
I'm asking you something else btw. I will discuss that on related thread anyway.

Currently busy in studying some VAB buildings.;)
 

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Xinjiang gets taste of South Asian seafood
For the first time, the residents of Northwest China's Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region were able to eat seafood imported from Pakistan by container cars through the Khunjerab Pass in January. This successful trial is expected to improve overland trade between China and Pakistan via the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, which accounts for 2 percent of the overall trade between the two countries. Meanwhile, the Xinjiang government has decided to invest more than 170 billion yuan ($24.72 billion) in a road network between China and Pakistan to improve transportation capability. However, experts noted that there remain challenges to the growth of bilateral trade, such as a lack of infrastructure and insufficient consumer demand in western China.


A ship carrying containers in Gwadar port, Pakistan, in November 2016 Photo: CFP

The first batch of Indian Ocean seafood shipped by container cars arrived in Northwest China's Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region through the Khunjerab Pass on January 13, marking the first time that Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous county, Kashgar prefecture, has received imported seafood.

"We imported 7.46 tons of seafood, including prawns, cuttlefish and squid, worth $26,700. It was sold mainly in western China," said Chen Hai'ou, president of Kashgar Mufeng Biotechnology Co.

The frozen seafood was shipped from the port of Karachi in southern Pakistan to the port of Sost in northern Pakistan, and then transported to China via the Karakoram Highway.

The highway, also known as China-Pakistan Friendship Highway, which connects Xinjiang and northern Pakistan, stretches more than 1,000 kilometers across the Karakoram, Himalayas and Hindu Kush mountains.

Chen said that the container cars started from Pakistan in November 2016 and entered the Khunjerab Pass before the Karakoram Highway closed for the winter. The closure lasts from December to April each year.

This trial shipment is meaningful because it illustrates the growth of overland trade between the two countries since the highway was rebuilt and extended in 2013, said Zhou Rong, a senior research fellow at the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies at Renmin University of China.

The highway greatly reduced the transnational transportation time.

"It used to take 30 to 40 days to ship goods to Xinjiang [from Pakistan], but we can now receive goods in about 10 days through the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC)," Chen told the Global Times on Wednesday.

It was also 10 percent cheaper than transporting seafood from coastal cities in China, Chen noted.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang proposed the 3,000-kilometer CPEC, which links Xinjiang and Pakistan's Gwadar port, during his visit to Pakistan in May 2013.

As part of China's "One Belt and One Road" initiative, the project aims to strengthen economic cooperation in transportation, energy and other industries.

Revitalized trade
The first shipment of seafood imported via the overland channel will invigorate bilateral trade and will have a demonstration effect on other companies, said Cao Lei, chief of Khunjerab Pass.

China imports an average of 3.9 million to 4.1 million tons of seafood each year, though a small proportion comes from Pakistan, said Cui He, vice chairman of the China Aquatic Products Processing and Marketing Association. The South Asian country doesn't rank among the top 20 seafood importers to China.

However, given that Pakistan doesn't consume a lot of seafood and its seafood resources remain well preserved, it is likely to boost overland shipments to Xinjiang, Cui told the Global Times on Saturday.

Currently, 98 percent of trade between the two countries is by sea, Cao was quoted as saying in a report of domestic news portal chinanews.com on February 4. Bilateral trade across Khunjerab Pass accounts for the remaining 2 percent.

For their part, Chinese companies will likely increase overland exports of large mechanical equipment and construction materials such as cement and steel to Pakistan as they contract more infrastructure projects under the CPEC, Zhou said.

In addition, the CPEC has made it more convenient for domestic companies to transport goods to Pakistan, where they can arrive in the northern city of Sost, he said. In the past, containers were shipped through the port of Karachi, where they had to go through customs.

Chen is also optimistic about the prospects that the CPEC will revitalize overland trade. "Besides seafood, we will import fruit and other agricultural products in line with domestic needs," he said, noting he is discussing importing fruit with Pakistani companies.

Eddie Wong, CEO of Shenzhen Hezhengyuan Group, the parent company of Kashgar Mufeng Biotechnology Co, told the Global Times on Sunday that the company will continue to import cotton and sugar in the second phase.

Meanwhile, his firm is negotiating with their Pakistani counterparts to export reasonable cost garments to the country.

Meanwhile, Xinjiang will devote a huge amount of funding in 2017 to building up a highway network to further improve transportation between the two countries, the Associated Press of Pakistan reported on Tuesday.

This year, the region will invest 170 billion yuan ($24.72 billion) in building new roads, 8.1 billion yuan into railway construction and 4.8 billion yuan in civil aviation projects, the report said, noting the total will surpass the combined investment in transportation infrastructure from 2011 to 2015.

Demanding challenges
The CPEC is supposed to bring earth-shaking changes to Pakistan's economy, but has yet to do so due to factors including lack of necessary infrastructure and low consumer demand in western China, Zhou said.

For example, an oil and gas pipeline in Pakistan linking the Middle East and China has not been connected, and thus the country can't get oil transit fees, he explained.

Although the Karakoram Highway is expected to boost overland trade between the two neighbors, objective factors make it hard to measure to what extent the corridor will contribute to its bilateral trade.

The highway's width of roughly six to 10 meters, which may not be able to handle enough traffic, and landslides may occur due to the complex topography, Zhou said. Most important of all, the highway is closed during winter, directly limiting the volume of transported goods.

Pakistan's supply level and western China's consumption demand is another problem that needs to be worked out, Cui told the Global Times on Saturday.
 
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