Couple in trouble for religious conversion

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  1. Daredevil

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    Couple in trouble for religious conversion

    AHMEDABAD: Kaushangini Kadia and Altaf Mirza are suffering for committing a mistake of not following procedure of obtaining permission from authority for religious conversion.

    Altaf is in jail for past nine days along with the maulvi who converted the Hindu girl to Islam before her marriage with Altaf.

    The couple got married in October last year as per Islamic rituals. Before the marriage, the maulvi in Navtad mosque near Ghee Kanta converted Kaushangini into his fold.

    However, the woman's family members were against this union and filed a complaint against Altaf with Vejalpur police.

    Kaushangini appeared before Gujarat high court (HC) to testify that the boy had not committed any crime.

    HC quashed the FIR and ordered police to escort the couple to Altaf's home in Behrampura. However, Kaushangini's mother Bhavika Kadia filed another plaint with the Karanj police last month against Altaf and the maulvi for illegal religious conversion.

    As per the amended Gujarat Freedom of Religion Act, a person is required to obtain permission from the district collector before converting to other religion. In this case, this permission was not obtained.

    On December 22, Altaf and the priest were arrested and a local court sent them to judicial custody.

    Their bail applications were rejected by a magisterial court. Now Kaushangini is pursuing the case before the city sessions court, where the proceeding is scheduled on Monday. She claims that she had filed an affidavit before her marriage that she was not forced into conversion.

    "I maintain that I did not convert under pressure. I did it on my free will. We were living happily, but my father does not want us to stay together. Even policemen are harassing us and force me to give statement of their liking," she said, adding that she plans to challenge the conversion law.
     
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    This situation poses a question - did the girl convert to Islam for the love of Islam or just to get married. What does conversions acts say about these kinds of conversion? Which one is more valid reason for conversion?.
     
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    Another plan of aggressive expansionism...
     
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    so it's 'regulated' in India for religion?:cool2:

    Why does the girl have to declare on her private issue?

    That's totally a private matter, as the girl says
    "I maintain that I did not convert under pressure. I did it on my free will. We were living happily,
     
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    Regulations are loose to strict from state to state as Religious conversion is a state subject.

    I agree its a private matter. But I'm not sure if the Religious Conversion act in Gujarat says the same.
     
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    Its disgusting on both counts. The fact that she has to get converted to marry him (shame on the guy) and the fact that a person needs a collectors approval to exercise free will.:tsk:
     
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    Your clever jibes aside, our nation still has rule of the law that is pursued in this case too. Unlike China. So get you house in order and shut it.
     
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    Love jihad.

    This has become a huge issue especially in Kerala and coastal Karnataka..Now in Gujarat.

    An example has to be made out of them so that miscreants don't indulge in these cheap tactics.
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    I attended a marriage in nov where muslim girl married hindu boy and converted to hinduism.

    what are your thoughts on that ?
     
  11. The Messiah

    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    keyboard militans are having a field day.

    but in real life they become sane ? trolls or cowards you decide.

    state has no business in personal lives of people.
     
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    would love to see muslim families opinion when their girls become hindu...
     
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    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

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    Look I am not going to waste my time in a shitfest with you.

    bury your head deep as you can, but the problem is not gonna evaporate. You like all other 'intellectuals' are no different. You see ills only with hindus no with others and I dont see any merit arguing with you.

    If you are genuinely ignorant about the issue, just google the term Love Jihad and you will get to know the seriousness of it.

    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=love+jihad+india&pbx=1&oq=Love+jihad&aq=3&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=11415l14170l1l16752l3l3l0l0l0l0l114l320l1.2l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=2f0b188327e19041&biw=1366&bih=667

    And yeah its not alone Hindu families that are complaining but also Christians in Kerala.

    http://www.cathnewsindia.com/2011/08/30/us-investigates-%E2%80%98love-jihad%E2%80%99-in-india/
     
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    they're butthurt also.
     
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    why did u censoredcensoredcensoredcensoreded up my username?? :tsk:
     
  16. The Messiah

    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    By using google i can also get plenty of stuff about aliens walking amongst us ? phack google.

    what if i quote my own posts from this very forum where i have critized every religion ? will you take back your baseless claims and apologize for lying ? or will you just keep on throwing mud hoping some of it sticks ? i fail to understand what i have said against hinduism in this thread ? :pound:

    you have still not answered by question.
     
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    hindus are not into a systematic policy of converting others into their religion . in fact , hinduism is so obsessed with purity that outsiders are not so easliy welcomed into hinduism . today of course , people can and do convert to hinduism . but there is no systematic plan to convert others.

    but we must be worried about the fall in numbers of hindus . if you look at successive censuses then hinduism has fallen from 82.5 percent of india's population ( 1961 census ) to 80 . 4 percent of india's population ( 2001 census ) . so we must be worried about the dwindling numbers of hindus .

    on the other hand islam has an open policy of converting as much of others to its fold---by hook or crook .

    islam is prevalent in many countries across the globe . islam has no problem of dwindling numbers . from morrocco on the atlantic ocean to indonesia many countries are islamic .

    on the other hand , we hindus have only 3 countries---india and nepal and mauritius , where we are majority . there too we are dwindling .

    so any move to convert anyone to islam must be opposed .
     
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    In certain religions (Islam and RC) , it is expected that the spouse converts to the religion before marriage.

    Therefore, the girl has to convert if she wanted to marry the Muslim boy, more so, if the boy put Religion over Love.
     
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    In India in respective hindu and muslim marriage acts the marrige cannot be done under any single marriage act unless both are of same religion. otherwise there is special marriage act.

    i have given you legal answer.
     
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    i have . but the mods have held it up .
     
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    I knew a girl whose Boyfriend converted to Islam inorder to marry her.
     

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