Cornered Pakistan may strike India to salvage lost pride

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  1. SHASH2K2

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    Cornered Pakistan may strike India to salvage lost pride


    NEW DELHI: Deeply embarrassed by the US raid that killed Osama bin Laden under its nose, the Pakistan army might be tempted to ratchet up hostility towards India and even encourage the terror proxies it controls to stage strikes on the Indian mainland, the Indian security establishment feels.

    The Pakistan army is having to deal with not just the disbelief of foreign governments over its claims of being unaware of Osama being in Abbottabad, a crowded city with a heavy military presence, but some hostile questioning at home as well. Its claims of being able to thwart any intrusion – protecting sovereignty being the army's USP – have been dealt a hard blow by the US action.

    There is a view that the Pakistan military may look to recover lost prestige by diverting popular attention towards India and army chief Ashfaq Kiyani's aggressive response to Indian Army chief V K Singh's claim that India could stage an Abbottabad-type operation indicates as much. In a statement, the Pakistan army said it would respond strongly to any Indian "misadventure."

    It serves the Pakistan army's purpose to feed popular paranoia about India and the possibility of Islamabad's "nuclear jewels" being under threat. A flare up of regional tensions can help turn the spotlight from its failures at a time when US law makers are asking why another dollar should be paid to an ally who might have harboured Osama.

    While opening the terror tap at a time when its reputation as jihad central stands highlighted in bold is a risky path to tread, militarists may be guided by very short term calculations, security sources feel.

    Keeping in mind the unsettled state of affairs in Pakistan with analysts agreeing that India would top the list of Pakistan army and ISI targets, the Indian security establishment is being doubly cautious to ensure that it does not provide any excuse for Pakistan to seize on to up tensions.

    The present position of the Pakistan army, the country's most powerful institution, also rules out possibility of an immediate military coup. As recently as 10 days ago, an assessment here spoke of the growing restlessness in the Pakistan army top brass with the political leadership. There were also inputs indicating ISI chief Lt Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha may have written directly to prime minister Yousuf Gilani expressing displeasure over some politicians for criticising ISI. "A coup is extremely unlikely in the present situation," a senior official said.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    ^^ SHASH2K2 Bhai, thank you very much for posting this one in left justified format. :)
     
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    There is (temporary may be) a serious lack of trust in Pakistan from the entire international community. Although I do want them to make this fatal mistake but I doubt their Generals are so foolish.
    It would surely be a war of words as their leaders try to grapple some small piece of honor from anywhere, barking at the West and India.
    However, I do not foresee any action at the borders. Coming to the other scenario, a terrorist attack or bomb blast traced back to Pakistan. Again it would not help them in this situation. It would infact be counter productive to the already worstening situation.

    Status quo !!


    Regards,
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  5. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I wonder.

    They will be in the doghouse if they after this Osama's fiasco.

    First, sheltering terrorists.

    And then attacking countries!!
     
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    I have a view that our armed force chiefs and so called politicians had no reason to make any sort to comments.
    The best option was to sit back and watch the drama. Making foolish comments like having capabilities to launch surgical strike was unnecessary and took a bit of lame light away from Pakistan. This even gave them a topic/reason to divert the attention from main issue.
    What we must understand that it is impossible for us to get Dawood Ibrahim out of Pakistan and we should move on. At the same time we should make sure that no other Dawood Ibrahim is ever born again.
     
  7. Andy

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    Any military or terror aggression against India will be really a fatal mistake for Pakistan . Pak know this fact .

    It will be not a good idea for any Indian government personals to make any comment against Pak when US - Pak got stuck in any bad issues . It will always help Pak . Better try to keep silence .

    If India want to do some thing ( like US did ) , just go for it . Do it , but do not open mouth - in wrong time . It will against Indian intrest .
     
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    It may be difficult to get him back, however not at all difficult to put a bullet in his filthy head.....Think?
     
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    DS, suppose you COAS, and some body asks you a direct question: "Sir, do we have capability to do such operation"

    What will you answer?

    I think we should stop worrying too much about what pakistanis think, it's not out fault that they are loonies
     
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    Best way to ensure no more Dawoods, is to give a gruesome death to the present version.


    Regards,
    Virendra
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    I think it's more concerned with Indian media they always act and ask foolish leading questions and force to give answer in yes or no.
     
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    They've already lost wars against us, what pride is left for them to salvage after this attack. Their only best weapons are terrorism, which is undermined now and then nukes, which they are itching to use but can't. Gen Kayani should resign if he has any shame.
     
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    Pride! fews days after OBL & 17 people killed in Drone attacks. Waiting for the catastrophe.
     
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    Pak troops violate ceasefire,target Indian posts along LoC
    PTI – Thu, May 5, 2011

    Poonch, May 5 (PTI) In yet another ceasefire violation along the Line of Control, Pakistani troops today fired rocket-propelled grenades and opened fire from Medium Machine Guns (MMGs) and small arms on Indian posts in Poonch district of Jammu and Kashmir.

    "Pakistani troops violated the ceasefire. They fired RPGs and opened MMG and small arms firing on 3 Indian forward posts in Krishna Gati sub-sector in Poonch district," a senior Army Officer of 16 Corps said.

    The RPGs coupled with small, medium arms firing was targetted at the Indian posts of Kranti, Ravi and Nangi from Pakistan''s posts of Peepal, Pattal, Daku and Burji by 653 Mujahideen Regiment of Pakistan.

    They fired 12 PRGs, over 500 rounds Medium Machine Gun beside small arms firing from 1525 to 1600 hours, the officer said adding the Indian troops fired back but refrained from using heavy firing.

    The firing later stopped, he said adding the Indian Army, using the hoteline, has registered a strong protest with its Pakistani counterpart over the ceasefire violation.






    They have already starting digging their grave
     
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  15. Tronic

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    It is an exit and a supposed salvation for the Pakistani army.

    Pakistan internally is in tatters. Pakistani establishment and army have had their reputation tarnished and its various ethnic groups are waging wars against the state. I'm afraid that the exit which Pakistan army may be looking at would be a conflict with India. There is nothing else which unites Pakistanis except their collective hatred of India, afterall, that is the only education they have received and the only identity the Pakistani state has, it is an anti-India entity, beyond that, Pakistan has no vision for itself. Therefore, I would expect a heated Kargil-like conflict at the least with Pakistan in the coming years, before the end of this decade. It's international reputation be damned, the Pakistani army always comes before anything! Even the country!
     
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    Our media and journalists are fools to ask such questions. If our Army chief had said that we did not have that capability or he had said no comments on that question, then it would have been a chaos in the news channels and the media would have said that INDIAN ARMY is very weak.

    What if anyone asks you whether you can fight like a man? Will you say that you cannot fight and you are a coward? If you say you cannot fight like man, then they will treat you like a coward
     
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    Our media and journalists are fools to ask such questions. If our Army chief had said that we did not have that capability or he had said no comments on that question, then it would have been a chaos in the news channels and the media would have said that INDIAN ARMY is very weak.

    What if anyone asks you whether you can fight like a man? Will you say that you cannot fight and you are a coward? If you say you cannot fight like man, then they will treat you like a coward
     
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    I second that. It was stupid and unnecessary to ask such questions and thereby spoil the focus of this entire fiasco.
    The army chief had to say something and his answer couldn't have been anything else. I saw the clip; he said it with absolute calm and explaining posture.

    Regards,
    Virendra
     
  19. Iamanidiot

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    many of you guys think an Indo-pak war will be a communal riot in armour?
     
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    they will not attack us as they know that if they do it the dole money they are receiving will be dried up& secondly in the retaliotary strike they will suffer more than india.
     
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    My answer would be "We don't need to prove our capabilities to a failed states".
     
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