Cong and BJP get low and dirty, abuse each other

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    As the deadlock continued in Parliament, the Congress-BJP slanging match turned vicious outside with the ruling party today accusing the opposition of acting as "agents of Maoists." Reacting sharply to the Congress' remarks, the BJP dubbed the ruling party members as "agents of Quattrocchi,"referring to the infamous Italian Bofors agent. "There is a propaganda of the Maoists that Indian democracy does not reflect the aspirations of the people.

    The manner in which the opposition has disrupted Parliament and not allowed the supreme voice of the people to function it takes credence to the propaganda of Maoists.

    It almost seems as Opposition is behaving as their agents," Congress spokesperson Manish Tewari told reporters outside Parliament.

    The BJP retorted by raking up the Bofors case. "Quattrocchi's agents are accusing us of being Maoist agents. Quattrocchi's agents do not have the right to say so," BJP spokesperson Prakash Javdekar said, referring to Bofors case accused Ottavio Quattrocchi.

    The party has been accusing the government of protecting the Italian businessman. While Tewari appealed to all opposition leaders to rise above party politics and allow democracy to function, Javdekar said, "the issue relates to democracy only.

    When 70 per cent of MPs are demanding JPC, why is the Congress running away from it. "Running away from JPC is undemocratic, demanding JPC is democratic.

    Congress seems to have lost all logic that is why the party is doing this," the BJP leader said. The deadlock over the opposition demand for Joint Parliamentary Committee probe into 2-G spectrum issue continued for the 15th day. "If the situation would be allowed to continue like this then this will not be good for democracy," the Congress spokesperson said.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Cong-and-BJP-get-low-and-dirty-abuse-each-other/H1-Article1-633483.aspx
     
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    NEW DELHI: Stating that the government was "indifferent to the problem of corruption", senior Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader L K Advani said on Thursday that the Central Vigilance Commission ( CVC) and the Central Bureau of Investigation ( CBI) were "being used as instruments for achieving political ends".

    "The government is indifferent to the problem of corruption," Advani said at a press conference to explain the opposition's view on the raging issue of corruption that has stalled parliament for 15 days.

    He also reiterated the demand for a joint parliamentary committee (JPC) probe into the 2G spectrum allotment scandal.

    "We are not of the view that parliament should proceed as it is proceeding," Advani said. "For that, the government is solely to blame."

    He said allegations in key scandals - 2G spectrum allotment, Commonwealth Games and Mumbai's Adarsh housing society - were issues that affected governance and the "nation as a whole".

    Advani said the BJP and other parties of the National Democratic Alliance (NDA) would "protest inside and outside Parliament" against corruption.
     
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    The opposition has practically cornered the govt over the spectrum scam,i don't see how there can be way out of this impasse unless the govt concedes ground on the JPC probe
     
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    Why do they not want a JPC probe I have no clue. Well everyone will say JPC will expose everyone, well anyone saying so is so naive. Every political party is corrupt and in this together. So whats wrong, I don't think JPC will bring out anything new as all the members of both the ruling coalition and the opposition have enough colluding oligarchs that they need not worry.
     
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    They are scared of JPC because it will cover all points in details and there will be many comments that will leave government red faced and it will be expose them to all . Right now they can manipulate CBI or CVC to weaken the investigation or case but JPC cannot be bullied or fooled.
     
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    What the BJP led opposition is doing is not unprecedented,In 2001 congress and its allies brought the Lok sabha to standstill over their demand for JPC probe into the Ketan parekh stock scam.The spectrum scam surely dwarfs the Ketan parekh affair.UPA clearly understands what entails a JPC probe,esp when its not just the opposition parties,but the entire nation is eager to know who all own the 'Congress Dukhan'
     
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    Anyone has a clip of the parliament circus where these pleasantries were exchanged? I wonder how long before our MPs and MLAs take a leaf out of their brethren in Taiwan and South Korea and indulge in some freestyle and dishum dishum. Will surely be a treat to watch when Mamta lands one on Laloo.
     
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    If JPC is irrlevant, then why have the provision to have a JPC.

    Let the govt Agencies do their job.

    At the same time I wonder if the JPC can achieve anything. And the Agencies that will assist the JPC, be it CAG/ CVC/ IT Dept/CBI or whatever, have lost their credibility since they have become the tools of the Govt.

    This feeling cannot be washed off because of the dismal and biased investigation of the CBI, irrespective of the Govt in power.

    And incredulous as it may seen, this Thomas, against whom there is a chargesheet pending, is declared by the Govt as a person of 'impeccable integrity'!! And so, inspite of the chargesheet is appointed as the CVC!

    What's wrong if the PM is called to give a statement. It is ridiculous to feel that because his personal character is without blemish, he is not accountable to answer for the activities of the Govt that he commands.

    What is Leadership all about?

    Does it mean that the Leader is not accountable for his Command?

    If that is so, then the word 'Lead' requires a new meaning!

    Tiwari, Nutrajan and now that old horse, Singhvi (note his wasting brandwidth on the TV debates with adjectives, when at a loss to explain!) really take the cake with all their flapdoodle!
     
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    Congi started this mud slingling. Remember, Sonia started MAUT KA SAUDAGAR business. How low could you get?

    Now Cong calls BJP agents of MOAISTS!! If BJP retorts then it is stooping LOW, by your estimation!! Who allowed Q to escape?

    Let us not rake too much mud. I have lots of munitions to counter.
     
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    Why are you grudging sonia Gandhi for using Maut ke Saudagar.

    She does not know Hindi. She must have thought it was real cool to use it.

    Sadly, it backfired and Modi came back stronger.

    In fact, I think the Congress has lost its line. The more they abuse the State Govt, the more they pave the way for the non Congress Govts to win another term. Gujarat and Bihar are good example.

    Rahul Gandhi came and criticised Mamata and he was rebuked by this aggressive and erratic lady that Rahul Gandhi was but a novice and only a swallow in Spring and that one Swallow does not make a Spring!

    Quite silly!

    The Congress has lost its sheen.

    Its reputation is that of a Party in power that can produce a scam a day!

    Very disappointing!

    And what is worse is the fraudulent arguments of their silly spokespersons who come out as frauds and deceivers of the people, as if the Nation is composed of idiots who have no reasoning power!
     
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    Hitting back at the BJP for demanding a JPC probe into 2-G spectrum allocation, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee today said it had no right to speak on the issue as Tehelka sting operation had earlier exposed its party president taking bribe on camera. "People should not forget what we have seen in the earlier regime... what happened in Tehelka. How president of a national party was found taking money. It was on camera and if they talk of this corruption let them speak," Mukherjee told reporters outside Parliament House.

    He was referring to a sting operation by Tehelka during the NDA regime when BJP President Bangaru Laxman was caught on camera taking bribe.

    BJP-led NDA, the Left parties along with the rest of the Opposition, have stalled Parliament proceedings for 15 consecutive working days since November 10, demanding a JPC probe in the 2-G scam.

    Mukherjee also accused the press of conducting a "trial by media" in the 2-G spectrum allocation case.

    "We have started investigations into corruption from day one when the (V K Shunglu) Committee was appointed after the Commonwealth Games were over... immediately, as soon as the CAG report was available, the minister concerned has resigned. Whether he is corrupt or not is not yet established," Mukherjee said.
     
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    Compare that with the 2G scam that the PM himself found it difficult to exercise his leadership. A leader who failed to lead his flock into the sheen of integrity that he is said to possess!

    15 days locgjam is bad,

    But it is a pittance compared to the CWG and 2G scams.

    It is time to recover each paisa that was stolen by these scamsters first since that is big money and then go after all the other scamsters, to include Laloo Fodder man, Mayawati, Mulayam, SM Krishna, Singh, Krishnaswamy (Deve Gowda's son), Yeddurappa, YSR, the BJP President who was seen taking money, the Hershad Mehta scam, the Indian Bank scam and oh the list goes on! And of course how Quatrocchi got his money released!

    But first, the latest scams i.e. CWG and 2G, where the evidence is still hot, and then set the ball rolling to take on the cold ones.
     
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    Pranab babu,BJP certainly has the right to ask the govt to address the allegations of corruption.
     
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    Pranab Mukherjee must started the investigation not from Day I,

    The inquiry started when the things got hot with Times Now going after the blood.

    How about having a dekko at the good old Grandmother with fancy English - Sheila Dixit also! ;)

    She is clean as Portia?

    Maybe.

    But she was also tainted by the media.

    Clear her reputation is what I say!

    Pranab Muskerjee and the pathetoc spokespersons of the Congress Party need to explain as to why the Govt was sluggish and tardy with evidence staring in their face and it required TV channels (those not compromised as touts of the Congress - the paid up media scam, which was never aired or written about and the Brakha Dutt - Vir Sanghvi scam that got their pathetic bleats in response) to shake the Govt and shame them into activity.

    Till today, Kalmadi is going scot free.

    Why?

    Is there something to hide?

    if the US Congress can summon their President, then what's so great about Manmohan Singh answering queries of a JPC? The country is not interested as to how clean he is. The country wants to know how under his watch and leadership so many scams happened and he fiddle away as India burned. Or is he not capable of leading as a Leader should do? Is he a leader or not is what we want to know. Agreed that he is to submit to Party diktats given by Sonia Gandhi, but then even a punk like Raja, his subordinate, who enjoys to be in the Ministry on the PM's goodwill, find courage and audacity to tell him to co*ck up?

    What a Leader!

    Could he not exercise the same stamina and leadership as he did with the Nuclear Deal or did he do it with support and courage of some other unknown divine forces?

    The way this Govt is functioning has made me very apprehensive if we are in safe hands. It was not so the feeling after the Nuclear deal and the way, with authority,it was carried through.

    Where have all the flowers gone?
    Girls have picked them every one
    When will they ever learn?
    When will they ever learn?



    Pathetic state of a Great Party thanks to the Lotus Eaters!
     
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    Congress and BJP have become two sides of the same coin. BJP with its constant JPC demand is more or less burying the 2G scam without allowing some investigation agencies to actually look into the 2G scam. There is no introspection, regret or even remorse in Congress/UPA for letting 2G scam happen. And our Mr. Impeccable PM MMS is no more impeccable for allowing this corruption right under his nose and doing nothing about it when it has happened. It took Supreme Court to actually admonish PM for allowing this scam and looking into the devious schemes behind this scam.

    Mantra of the congress seems to be : A Scam a day keeps Congress in pay.
     
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    NEW DELHI: Slamming the government, BJP leader Sushma Swaraj termed as "untruth" its claim that the charges against CVC P J Thomas was not brought before the high-powered selection committee of which she was a member and said she would approach the Supreme Court in this regard.

    "It is not at all true. In fact, it is a mis-statement. I personally brought this fact to the notice of the Prime Minister and Home Minister in the meeting itself even though they persisted with this appointment," Swaraj said here.

    The leader of opposition in Lok Sabha told reporters that she had always stayed away from judicial proceedings but "now I have decided to file my affidavit before the Supreme court".

    Swaraj, who had put on record her dissent to the selection of Thomas as CVC by the three-member committee, was reacting to the affidavit filed by attorney general G E Vahanvati in the Supreme Court today that the panel was not aware of the charges in the Palmolein export case pending against him in Kerala.

    The main opposition party had even boycotted the CVC's swearing-in ceremony a few months back as a mark of protest.

    "The government is speaking one untruth after another untruth. So I have decided to file a detailed affidative on the issue," Swaraj said.

    She asserted that her main obection to Thomas' appointment was that there was chargesheet against him in a corruption case and sanction was granted by Kerala government for his prosecution.

    An NGO, Centre for Public Interest Litigation, and others had challenged Thomas' appointment as the CVC, citing the Pamolein import corruption case in which the top ranking official is an accused.

    Read more: CVC issue: Govt speaking untruth, will approach SC, says Sushma - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-Sushma/articleshow/7371968.cms#ixzz1CErmOuUr
     
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    Notwithstanding the intense scrutiny from the Supreme Court and from the media, Central Vigilance Commissioner P J Thomas appears to be in no mood to quit, at least not immediately. Sources said Thomas, whose appointment has come under severe criticism in view of the fact that he is facing a corruption case against him in Kerala, would like to wait till February 3 when the Supreme Court will again take up the case against him.

    Thomas apparently indicated to people close to him that he would like to see what the apex court says on the issue of his appointment as CVC before taking a call whether to continue in the high post.

    Sources said Thomas feels that he has become a "victim of political fight" between the government and the opposition and he has little role in this ongoing tussle.

    Besides, sources said, Thomas believes that he has not done anything wrong as CVC for which he should resign or he could be removed by the government.
     
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