Condemn the Persecution of Falun Gong

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    International Religious Freedom Report: Condemn the Persecution of Falun Gong

    The U.S. Department of State released its 2013 annual report on International Religious Freedom. The report says that last year, the number of people forced to leave their home due to their faith has reached a historical high. The report strongly condemns the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) persecution of Falun Gong. It urges China to release Falun Gong practitioners and human rights lawyer Gao Zhisheng. 2014-08-01 02:11 AM EST Last Updated: 2014-08-01 02:16 AM EST
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    The U.S. Department of State released its 2013 annual report on International Religious Freedom. The report says that last year, the number of people forced to leave their home due to their faith has reached a historical high. The report strongly condemns the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) persecution of Falun Gong. It urges China to release Falun Gong practitioners and human rights lawyer Gao Zhisheng.

    The report says that although Masanjia Labor Camp has been closed, increased detention of Falun Gong practitioners around sensitive dates still continues.

    “It was reportedly said that the CCP instructs the district residential committee to report information regarding Falun Gong practitioners to officials in return for cash rewards,” the report says.

    Tom Malinowski, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, openly condemned the persecution of Falun Gong. He highlighted the CCP’s persecution policy of Falun Gong and urged the Chinese regime to release Falun Gong defender and lawyer Gao Zhisheng as scheduled in August.

    Since 1999, China has been listed as a Country of Particular Concern due to its religious freedom violations, the report says.

    Theresa Chu, spokesperson of Human Rights Lawyers For Falun Gong: “The persecution of Falun Gong has lasted for 15 years. Actually, in many countries, particularly in Europe and the U.S., there are governmental reports about this. These reports reveal that the persecution of Falun Gong hasn’t been lessened after the downfall of Bo Xilai and Zhou Yongkang. The severe persecution manifests around sensitive dates with the large-scale arrest of Falun Gong practitioners. The situation is still severe now in 2014.”

    The report points out that Falun Gong hasn’t been protected under the law in China. The report also shows concern for Falun Dafa Association member Li Chang. It says, “Falun Gong practitioner Li Chang has been sentenced to 18 years in jail. Li was a volunteer assistant of Falun Gong. He co-organized a peaceful protest in 1999, and is currently still being held in jail. Falun Gong practitioner Yu Changxin was sentenced to 18 years in jail in 2000, and he is still in jail.”

    Theresa Chu: “Whether or not Gao Zhisheng can be released as scheduled, whether or not the Falun Gong assistant can be released, whether Falun Gong will have to continue to suffer severe persecution in China; We say it is like a kind of indicator. Thus, the U.S. can stand up and openly demand Gao Zhisheng’s release, as well as a group of Falun Gong practitioners that are currently facing persecution as mentioned in the report. We think it is significant.”

    The report lists several cases of the persecution. “In November 2012, Beijing police arrested Falun Gong practitioner Zhang Fengying as she was shopping,” it said. Zhang’s daughter explained that at that time, Zhang was telling a resident about the benefits of Falun Gong. The regime transferred Zhang to Tiantanghe Women’s Labor Camp for two years.”

    Zhu Keming was the first Falun Gong practitioner who sued Jiang Zemin. Zhu said that Zhang Jie, another practitioner who sued Jiang, was arrested and persecuted to death soon after. During Zhang’s five year jail sentence, he faced brutal tortures in jail and nearly died.

    Zhu Keming: “From my personal experience in China, I noticed that people only knew the surface of China’s human rights status. It is far worse actually. Falun Gong practitioners in prison were treated worse than inmates. Their human rights conditions were far worse than that of criminals. People are still unclear about the persecution of Falun Gong.”

    Theresa Chu points out that the live organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners still carries on in China, but it wasn’t mentioned in the U.S.’ report.

    Theresa Chu: “Regarding the atrocities of live organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners, no one should avoid crimes against humanity on earth. However, the report didn’t mention it. We believe the U.S. Department of State still has some evidence and documents of the CCP’s organ harvesting in its hands. We hope the U.S. government, being a big human rights powerhouse, when faced with such inhumane atrocities, should help stop the organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners both in the report and in action.”

    The report pays special attention to the harassment against Falun Gong by Hong Kong’s pro-Beijing group Youth Care Association Limited. Hong Kong resident Zhu Keming says that he believes the U.S. will openly condemn the CCP. However, if the U.S. doesn’t take extreme measures with the CCP and pressure the CCP to stop the persecution of Falun Gong, condemnation alone won’t work.
     
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    "Buddha Shakyamuni attained supreme and complete enlightenment through “precept,
    concentration, wisdom.” So before his nirvana, he instructed his disciples to “Uphold and
    observe the Precepts. Do not let them down or violate them.” He also warned, “People who
    violate the Precepts are abhorred by heaven, dragons, ghosts and the divine. Their evil reputation
    spreads far and wide. … When their lives end, they will suffer in hell for their karma, and meet
    their inexorable doom. Then they will come out. They will continue to suffer by bearing the body
    of hungry ghosts and animals. They will suffer in a circle like this endlessly with no relief.” [45] "
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    What is the danger the Falun Gong poses China that makes China ban it and jails its followers?
     
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    They believe in spirituality which is not in the spirit of communists lords. Any belief other than communist beliefs are jailed or executed to keep the rat race alive.
     
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    Falun Gong are like the Mormons of US. It's not so much about "free thinking" as "an annoying distraction." For too long, and after too much effort, PRC has managed to mobilize its population to focus on fast economic development, before dwindling natural resources around the world make that nonviable. Things like Falun Gong, the Dalai Lama, the Uighur belief system, etc., are not exactly state-favorites, because they're a distraction from the national agenda. Sure, you're "free" to think," but can you keep the pace of your economic growth with that freedom? I doubt. China will liberalize eventually, but at its own terms. Not at the terms of west-coast hippies from the US (or their skewed idea of human liberty, which they etch in stone on top of an economically advanced society).

    There's still some form of religious freedom in China. It just doesn't allow religious practice that's backed by organizations (the way Islam in India is backed by the deobandis, the way Christianity in Europe is backed by Vatican, etc.)
     
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    On the surface FLG appears one of many traditional Gong (=Kungfu) to most Chinese, or just another "non-orthodox" Buddhism as its "teachings" were filled with Buddhism jargons, plus a bit Taoism. But it's gone too far that the founder Li claimed to be the biggest "Buddah" ( a latter-day saint? :lol:) greater than Sakyamuni, Laozi, Jesus the Christ... And any disease can be cured by worshiping Li. Books and CDs FLG circulated are with blessings from Li and thus a a magic power. :lol: At the doomsday only those who believed in Him the saviour and calling his name would be salvaged, otherwise damned. It even has a TV Channel in America. There are many overseas followers even in Thailand :rofl:
     
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    Nothing surprising in China.

    Hong Xiuquan, who led the Taiping Rebellion against the Qing Dynasty, establishing the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom over varying portions of southern China, announced that he had received visions, in which he learned that he was the younger brother of Jesus.
     
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    Anyone who has perused Chinese history will not be easily fooled.

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    U missing core concept China also persecute Muslims,Tibetan Buddhists and Xians also, but why Tibetan Buddhists not their own Buddhists

    Buddhism is spiritual but Tibetan buddhism is spiritual+Political

    Islam&Xianity is give importance to spiritual+Politics+Power

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    hear comes falun-gong Spiritual+Political like our native Social service org+Political............ guess what RSS :thumb:

    in no time falun-gong will turn itself into spiritual to Political, CCP understands it and started persecution

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    They have millions of followers just one spark needed to create A LEADER from those millions and CCP will turn into history
     
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    Tibetan Bhuddism is political?? :shocked:

    Tibet is a different kingdom and existed as a different part from China.

    regarding RSS it is most liberal organization, these guys treat every religion as the same. only slogan is "country first".

    RSS is not conservative.
     
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    Tibetan Bhuddism is political??............... why they are running a govt in India and have a PM&Dalailama

    BJP is the POLITICAL WING of RSS,i don't know what type of Q u r asking if RSS wants it can create another party to rule

    RSS formed to counter Islam it is final,if Muslims are declined to 1or 2% u won't find any RSS office in anywhere in India
     
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    Dalailama is a spiritual Guru he is not holding any political power, Similar to Taiwan democratic leaders, Tibetan legitimate leaders came to India and started their Govt.

    RSS is there from the begining onwards, they are there even when Indian Constitution is being drafted and approved in the Parliament, which says India is secular.

    RSS is powerful organization at the same time most of them are tolerant and think about the country.

    You have no idea about RSS for sure!!

    Their mission is ""Selfless Service to Motherland"

    They do not say India should be Dharmic or Hindu kingdom or "some conservative religious verses from holy texts as their mission"
     
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    In this world where Politics call the shot, all religions have a political agenda.

    What's new about that?

    It is just that some religions scare the living hell out of others, while the others bare their teeth to indicate that they too exist.
     
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    Wow wow wow

    A hindu or Buddhist will never be a TERRORIST they just defend or retaliate but Islam every MUSLIM can :sad:..........oh god
     
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    You are side tracking from the discussion :crusin5:
     
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    No i'm always on line........... RSS is defender &Retaliatory

    The problem is i say directly 'coz now they(Mu) can't do any thing except whining :rofl:

    just check what great INTELLECTUAL of India Dr B.R.Ambedkar said about PEACE-FULL'S

    http://www.ibtl.in/blog/2019/ambedkar-what-the-dalit-icon-wrote-of-islam/

    https://sites.google.com/site/cabinetmissionplan/b-r-ambedkar-in-pakistan-or-the-partition-of-india


    p.s thread is abt falun gong leave Rss
     
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    Ambedkar's greatness lies in the fact that he surmounted the Indian societal nonsense to be a great person.

    However, we must quit the typical Indian weakness of deifying people to suit our convenience.

    Mahatma Gandhi was great and so was JL Nehru, Vallabhai Patel, Indira Gandhi. They all have a place in history.

    But they all also had feet of clay and were not always right.
     
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    It seems you have missed Doval's lecture on the thread.

    Anyone can be a terrorist.

    But political Islam has a unique place and is doing down Islam.

    The comparison with other religious extremism is what should be addressed for a very objective view.
     

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