Coming soon with an ambitious Project - Reforming India

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Will you be with us? Will you support us to act against wrong things to reform India?

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  1. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

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    Hello DFI Friends,

    I'm working in an ambitious project since last 3 months and soon will make it real. Project "Reforming India" is a platform focused on the social and political issues where all common people like us will discuss on it and will find a solution. The best thing about it would be that we not only discuss on problems but would also act to solve that problem in all possible ways by increasing public awareness, by using laws like RTI, using medias etc.

    The goal of this project is to create enough awareness in people that they would have to support this movement. We also planning to have a team of volunteers and members who will be involved in active operations against corruption including sting operations.

    It's not just a website, it's not just a blog or forum. It is a movement, a movement to raise the voice of a common man which haven't being listen till date. It's a movement to reform India.

    This is "Reforming India".

    Stay with us, support us for it.

    Would you be with us?
     
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  3. Payeng

    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    Isn't is foolish to support a reforming movement without knowing the proper 'implement how'?
    Such a movement can always result in personal ambitions rather then what ever is shown to the general public.

    Better India- yes please
    Reforming India - How?

    First of all I believe you should have not asked for opinion of the people without bringing a proper plan for implementation,
    Sorry but no revolution without knowing a proper 'how'.

    We have a minimum ability to judge the pros and cons of a statement regardless what has been stated, blind faith is highly discouraged.

    you should not have asked for a blind faith from the people without describing your game plan,
    sorry I wont participate in the poll 'atm' it might highlight a wrong impression, maybe I will wait for more replies for a confirmed participation or dis-participation.

    Wish you a very Happy Independence Day :india:
     
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  4. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

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    Happy Independence Day Payeng,

    Nice to hear it from you bro and I completely agree with you about not supporting anything without knowing complete details about it but please read again that is this project has not being launched and would take time to come up with a solid plan and effective infrastructure to fulfill its purpose. I'm not asking for a blind support from anyone because a blind supporter is much dangerous than a protestor who is intelligent and can figure out the right and wrong things apart.

    I'm just asking that if I take an initiative step to counter corruption and other issue which are spoiling India then would you agree with me or not? Of course after completely knowing the plan and strategy everybody will have to decided about it. Basically we can not force anybody to do anything but we can definitely influence them and this is the primary purpose of this project.

    The idea is small, the step is small but it has wider scope to scale into the size to influence whole nation. Right now civil society, Anna Hazare's fast is not enough to force government to make a single law which honestly take action against corruption. First of all government won't make any such law and if it makes and Lokpal works actively then also it won't be able to manage to handle from day to day corruption to biggest scams.

    The problem lies in our systems and one single law can't change it. For this we should think for some bigger changes and if it demands the modification in our constitution then also we should be ready for that.
     
  5. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

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    The answer to the question
    is simple that is I'm being tired to see each month's fuel price hiking, inflation, police not writing report of public easily and if the complain is against any politician then police won't write it at any cost. I'm being tired to see that each time government says that
    I becomes crazy when I see that government has prosecuted Bhopal Gas crisis case and helped the accused persons to escort from India and the PM were also involved in it. My blood starts boiling when I listen that government is saying
    Since last one year I'm watching this whole crap and now I can not stop me from doing something whether someone come with me or not but at least I'll have a satisfaction of doing something what I ought to do. As a common man I'm get tire while watching this and started researching on things and would come with a plan to counter all these problems and I'm good at strategy and planning.
     
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    thakur_ritesh Administrator Administrator

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    Captonjohn,

    a better approach would be to get down there and dirty you hands, start small, have your work covered, spread the word. if people see honesty in your work, people at the grass root level will join you, doing it here wont make for much, in fact there will be hardly any response.

    there are a lot of NGOs already doing what you are, so you could think of working with them or joining your hands with them in some capacity, but also remember the dangers associated, asking for too much transparency can put you in a spot, there have been RTI activists who have been killed, so be vigilant and careful.
     
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    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    Thank you captonjohn

    modification of constitution is no joke for me, it will really need some serious consideration.
    fuel price hike, inflation is what I see it in a economical manner, I don't know about political influence in such matters, but I think current open market system speaks a lot about it, regardless the voice of the opposition in power.

    Police system and the Political system, both are by-products of the society, you cannot change them without changing the attitude of the society so a better idea would be social awareness then a protest towards the political system or the police system, it is the grass root level of evolution, which is the mother of any revolution.

    Regarding corruption check, yes a vigilant body would be highly preferable but personally I wont recommend another layer of autocracy to make things more cucumbersome.

    The political attitude of the leaders cannot be changed without changing the attitude of the society, practice vigilance to check the autocracy and corruption of the people in power, which again depends upon the attitude of the society.


    Note: by the term society I mean to describe the people of the nation as combined.
     
  8. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

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    Thanks Ritesh for warning me about possible dangers and threats which may come in my way. There are already several NGO's who are working in this area and it's a good idea to join and work with them but there are several questions hitting on us which never got their answer.

    How much did these NGOs has affected Indian public?
    How much aware our public is?
    How much issues related to government's policies and corruption babus has been opened and how much these NGOs has been able to do in it?

    Of course my approach has a lot of dangers including threat to life, fake criminal charges, fake scam charges etc. that's why I'm putting my each step carefully because I'm not a big personality like Anna and hence may face substantial bunch of problems. Helping poor people isn't enough now because nothing would until you clean your home from corruption. NGOs are doing good work but that's not enough now and we should go for major changes including constitutional changes. I'm not talking about doing protest or fast because Anna is doing much better than anybody else can do but nothing would work until we don't modify our existing system that protect government employees, babus, ministers from any legal charges.

    When a person use RTI then he may get attacked and may be killed but when an organization, a group of common people would do that then whom corrupted guys would kill? When they'll kill one person then another person would enter and proceed against them and if we be alert and think a little more carefully then we may avoid most of such threats.

    People don't vote just because they think they don't have any good option and that's true and we are going to give them an better option.
     
  9. thakur_ritesh

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    Captonjohn,

    if you go in with a confrontational mindset people on the other side being more powerful will make sure they crush you and they have any day more and better means to do it.

    if a change has to be brought about, it will never be though a constitutional change, but by going at the grass root level and start finding localised solutions and get them implemented. eg - there was this/these village/s in MP, the MLA promised them an engineering college, never happened, they got together and made one themselves, this is what india wants. show them the path they can do it themselves, be the guiding spirit that it can be done.

    if you think and if you enter with the mindset that you will get the constitutional changes, then that wont happen and you will be completely disoriented and will feel there are no solutions to the problem, and nothing good can ever happen in india. think small, think simple, amke a difference at the grass root level and spread the message, and see how the word spreads.

    your revolution and reforming india would be done.

    india doesnt need confrontational policies, but amicable, practical solutions.
     
  10. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

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    Again a good suggestion, thanks for it Ritesh. I will keep all these things in mind while deciding my action plan before going ahead better I have some more information about it to make right decision.
     

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