‘Combat Hawk’ aircraft by next year’s ‘Aero India’

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  1. Kshatriya87

    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    http://www.defencenews.in/article/‘Combat-Hawk’-aircraft-by-next-year’s-‘Aero-India’-2760

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    The combat version of Advanced Jet Trainer, Hawk aircraft, is likely to be showcased in the next year’s Aero India, a biennial air show of India. State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is hoping that the ‘Combat Hawk’ will be an ideal export product besides being used domestically.

    Highly placed sources said a foreign country has already evinced interest in the product.

    They said that such an aircraft, slower than a fighter jet, can be useful for operations in forested areas and in low mountains.

    Moreover, many countries cannot afford to spend big on bigger fighter aircraft and hence the project has a lot of export potential.

    “Combat Hawk” involves fitting air-to-air missiles and air-to-ground guns besides rockets and bombs to the aircraft which is currently used as trainer aircraft for fighter pilots before they enter an actual fighter jet.

    HAL had last year signed an MoU with BAE Systems UK for upgradation of Hawk Mk132, development of Combat Hawk for Indian and export markets and maintenance solutions for supporting Jaguar and Hawk fleet.

    The aircraft has the capabilities to be used as a ground attack aircraft or for air defence.

    The aircraft is being produced at HAL under licence from BAE. The first aircraft was handed over to IAF in August 2008.

    Production programme of 42 Hawks to IAF was concluded in 2011-12. Further, second contract was signed between IAF and HAL in July 2010 for supply of forty of Hawk AJT and associated equipment.
     
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    Who wants this plane ? I do not see a reason IAF should be buying this.

    LCA will be always better suited and cheaper than this.
     
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    As the article says, poor countries or countries with limited needs can buy. Such as some african countries or small islands etc.

    Also, we can use these effectively in our lands like forests where we need time to spot the enemy but at the same time not giving them enough time to shoot us down.
     
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    This can be a cheap but effective platform for limited ground support role, and many countries where insurgency is more of a concern than conventional war, like African countries or South American countires as well as for Sri Lanka, Nepal etc. These can be toughened up for marine weather and placed at Seychelles for quick response.
     
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    This is a good plane for COIN missions similar to ones in Iraq, Afghanistan and in Africa
    These planes should be as cheap as Tejas and they do not boast of being 5th Gen or fighter planes.
    This is perfect solution for African countries where buying a single squadron of F-16 can mess the entire defence budget
     
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    Giving these to Afganistan might scare Pakistan a bit too.. :D
     
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    Anything that we arm Afghanistan will be scaring Pakistan, Firstly as it undermines their efforts to unstabilize Afghanistan. Secondly, that ensures that PAF planes and units do not have a freehand moving in and out of Afghanistan and hence the "good" taliban that is supported by pakistan gets hard time. Also with the experienced gained in Combat HAWK will add to upgradation and further improvement. This might be enough to meet and beat planes like JF-17.. F-16 is too good for combat hawk at present but with new set of teeth, it can learn to bite
     
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    But how is it different from hawk 200?
     
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    It is a sad story that hal is promoting hawk rather than Tejas. Sad fact is that both aircraft cost the same while hawk is a trainer and has none of the capabilities of tejas.

    People are very worried about hal only interested in license manufacture. The value addition at hal is a story of screwdriver tech. This has to stop.
     
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    Why hal is not promoting its own jet trainer for this role?

    Time and again HAL shows its incompetence.
     
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    Maybe it is trying to sell to the Army, and army may not want to buy Tejas as it has too many roles it does not want, where as a light attack + trainer is what it can take
    but true, this is how HAL fcuks up itself and then complaints that it does not get orders
     
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    And these jets can be made Cheaper than Tejas, as they wont come with top of the line goodies but basic ones like Doppler Radar or PESA, and targeting pod. Hence these planes can be mainly attack planes and yet able to intercept the likes of F-16 (but not ti get into dog fight with them) Afghanistan is part of funds that tailian make via Opium and thus denying Taliban the funds and safety they would have to be in safety of pakistan, hence putting the trouble called Taliban and putting it in bottle called pakistan
     
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    Who will get scared by a trainer? It can be a light attack aircraft but practically useless if faced with a strong enemy.

    Why would anybody spend 20+ million dollars on this plane. The better option is India sells Afghans HJT-16 Kirans which IAF is no longer using. These can be used for light attack.
     
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    Scandinavian Airshow Skycats wingwalkers with Indian colors

     

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