Close down Parliament.

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  1. Yusuf

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    The current opposition will go down in history as the one that has caused the maximum parliament disruption. Any issue tht it comes up with is marked by non functioning Parliament. There is more "debate" on news channels than in Parliament. Taxpayers money is getting wasted by the crores. We talk about bringing accountability in governance, where is accountability of the lawmakers? Why should the people pay for parliament disruptions?

    Why does the opposition shy away from a discussion or debate in Parlaiment and makes sure the parliament does not function? Is it that they have no good points to debate and they are doing all this just to create an illusion of doing something? Their is no conviction in opposition about opposing the govt on issues raised. The NDA introduced FDI in retail in 2004 but now opposes it. The BJP is only fishing for political points than having any constructive ideas.
    Unfortunately the BJP posterboy for development, Narendra Modi who otherwise goes all over to get FDI including our arch rival China is opposing FDI in retail. Wether by conviction or just rosin part line, Modi has just sent wrong signals to potential investors.

    How long will the parliament not function? Is the only way to protest is blocking all work in te parliament? So many bills are lending that require urgent attention including Lokpal. When will our lawmakers debate?

    Please close down Parlaiment and use the cheaper option of using the television media to have debates. That will save a lot of crores.
     
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    Known_Unknown Devil's Advocate Stars and Ambassadors

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    The BJP only opposes. When has it ever offered any constructive suggestions to the government? In other democracies, opposition parties often circulate draft legislations or private MP's bills, this tradition is absent in India. With such fractious, messy politics and inability to get anything done, is it a wonder why so many Indians get fed up and immigrate to foreign countries?

    Daniel Wagner: India's Courage Deficit

    India's Courage Deficit

    Posted: 11/28/11 09:08 AM ET

    Many in the West may not realize it, but India is in the middle of what is shaping up to be a severe economic crisis. The rupee hit an all time low of more than 52 to the U.S. dollar this past week, is down 17% this year, and declined more than 7 percent just this month. That is even lower than during the financial crisis of 2009. India's stock exchange, the Sensex, has lost more than a third of its value in dollar terms this year and now has the dubious distinction of being Asia's worst performing stock exchange. Profit margins among Sensex companies are at a seven-year low and foreign institutional investors are bailing, taking Indian risk off the table, and looking to invest their funds elsewhere.


    What accounts for this dramatic fall from grace for the world's second most populous country, and arguably the country with the most potential to become a regional economic powerhouse and challenge China's de facto dominance in the region? A slowing economy, soaring inflation, policy paralysis on the part of the Indian government, and growing pessimism about what the future may bring have converged to create what is becoming a downward spiral. The worst may unfortunately be yet to come, with some economic pundits anticipating the rupee devaluing to perhaps 55 in the coming months, as economic fundamentals remain weak.

    During a visit to Delhi and Mumbai last week, I noted palpable concern on the part of a variety of business executives who suggested that the government is unlikely to have the ability to pass much needed reforms and policies that will spur economic growth and send the right message to foreign investors. If the government is unable to do so now, when it has room to maneuver -- given that the next election more than two years away -- it seems highly unlikely that it will be incentivized do so closer to the election. Moreover, India needs such change right now, and even if the government did succeed in passing the required legislation, does it actually have the ability to implement change swiftly enough to reverse India's rapidly increasing descent? Judging from prior experience, the answer appears to be 'no', as the Indian government does not have a good record at 'swiftly' changing much of anything.


    Rating agency Fitch has given the government the benefit of the doubt, having said last week that it considered India 'relatively less' exposed to future global shocks than some other Asia economies. Fitch considers Asia's largest nations, including India, to have built-in advantages that some smaller nations do not have, such as large indigenous populations, abundant natural resources, and a diversified export base. But can an economy which spends approximately 60 percent of its import bill on oil really be considered 'insulated' from global shocks? And does it really matter even if it were genuinely insulated when investors consider the country a difficult place in which to do business?


    Consider India's position in the World Bank Group's Doing Business 2012 rankings. India ranks 132nd overall out of 183 countries as a desirable place to do business, just above Nigeria and just below the West Bank and Gaza. In several individual rankings, India is near the very bottom. For example, for starting a business, India ranks 166th, for obtaining construction permits, India ranks 181st, and with respect to enforcing contracts, India ranks 182nd. In fact, India ranks above 100 in six of the ten categories, with the lowest cumulative score of any of the BRIC countries. Not a very inspiring performance for such a large democracy, blessed with so many resources and potential. What chance does the Indian government have of being successful at turning things around in a matter of months when what is really required is a change in long-term performance and market sentiment, which will take many years? This is ultimately the key to India's short- and long-term success and it must be addressed sooner, rather than later.


    It isn't just foreign investors that are dismayed; Indians are themselves of course quite concerned about rising inflation, rising interest rates, and the investment climate, which are creating uncertainty and fear about the future. What is required to turn things around is a consensus for radical change based on common sense fundamentals, such as embracing the anti-corruption drive currently under way with zero-tolerance, making good governance the hallmark of all business transactions, and streamlining the bureaucracy so that the number of steps required to get anything done is cut in half. None of this is new or particularly unusual, and yet, at the end of the day, this is all that should be required to change market and investor perception. India already has everything else. With the stakes so high, one would think now would be the time to get serious about turning things around.

    The Indian people have recently showed great courage en masse in supporting a powerful national anti-corruption campaign. The one ingredient that is missing from India's political class is courage -- courage to break with tradition, to embrace change, and to do what is so obviously necessary and right. The Indian people must demand this of their leaders, since they appear incapable of demanding it of themselves. Numerous other countries have done so, and they had far less going for it than India has. In the absence of such courage on the part of everyone concerned, India will never be able to realize its destiny as a regional and global power. More to the point -- in the absence of doing so, India risks slipping further into an economic abyss, which threatens to derail much of the economic progress that was made over the past decade.
     
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    You're sure about that part ? AFAIK Modi was pro FDI

    BJP may face embarrassment in FDI debate
     
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    Who told you It's wrong signal ?? Actually BJP sending positive signal to people. do you know how ??

    Business class is most important support for BJP. They are biased with BJP.

    There might be few Investors which will not like but who cares when there are 5-7 Million small business/shop-keeper who don't want FDI/Walmart like stores in India ??

    BJP is opposing because people who really vote to BJP all the time don't want. Simple.

    whether FDI will be good or bad, we will see in future. I have mixed opinion.
     
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    Allparty meet on FDI in retail tomorrow

    Even the BJP's Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, who has aggressively wooed FDI in his state forced to toe the line, in his tweet said that 'his stand on the issue was that of the BJP'.
     
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    Though this is about parliament, just for your information, it was te BJP under Jaswant Singh that introduced FDI in retail.
     
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    Of course, He will. He is big leader because of public support and when public (Business class and not others) don't want, He has to follow the opinion.
     
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    This FDI has been sneaked in as a Cabinet decision that requires no Parliament approval, knowing fully well that there will be total pandemonium.

    It is great strategic move.

    The Lokpal Bill will not be tabled and none can blame the Govt.

    Anna will be sucking his thumb in despair!

    Interesting is that it is not only the Opposition is up in arms but also UPA partners!

    Therefore, it is not merely that the Opposition which is disrupting the Parliament, but also the Govt since they have purposely put the cat amongst the pigeons!
     
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    It was under different circumstances and different guideline. It was 26% at that time now it's 51% in mutli brand and 100% in single brand. Both Versions are different.

    Today, BJP can't support FDI due to political reason. Good or Bad, I don't know.
     
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    I wonder what you would have said if Modi had in fact supported FDI. Wonder where this business protection goes when he goes to China to get FDI when he knows fully well that cheap Chinese can kill the market?
     
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    Thank you very much. That is what I said. BJP is only indulging in political opportunism. It has no real conviction. BJP would have done the same if it was in power and I have no doubt that the very congress increasin FDI to 51% would have opposed it. It's all about political points.
     
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    So for the BJP, it's "political reasons" are more important than the progress and future of the country. Thanks, just what I expected.
     
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    I hope you know the difference between FDI/FII investment and FDI 51% in mutli brand + 100% in single brand ?? :)
     
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    The only thing true about United Progressive Alliance is that its anything but united or progressive and indicators are that the alliance is progressively headed towards disunity and dissolution. How can UPA,a supposedly alliance of parties, actually take a such a momentous decision only to see key ruling alliance members of the alliance join the opposition in attacking the govt decision. Did the congress take its key allies like the TMC and DMK on board before coming out with the decision, was this even discussed in the cabinet meeting and how come the TMC and DMK did not oppose the decision during the cabinet meet.

    While others might worry about the opposition, its the complete disarray in governance in the ruling alliance that worries me more.
     
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    There are 2 side of a coin.

    Few people saying, it's good for the country and few opposite. How can you say it's good for the country based on 1,000's wall mart, Starbucks, Gas, Tesco, Carrefour across the country ??

    First prove that FDI will be be good for the country, that point is still not cleared. :)

     
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    I am sure you know more to justify BJPs opposition to next gen of reform that includes FDI in key sectors.

    By the way you don't have any issues in Indian companies investing abroad do you? We should let to of our investments in Astan, Vietnam. How about going back to pre 1991 era?
     
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    Simple, the technology and supply chain expertise these foreign retailers bring will benefit each and every Indian consumer. This is not just about protecting the interests of the few million or so shopkeepers, but about upholding the interests of the 1.2 billion consumers who deserve a cheaper alternative, more choice and better service.
     
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    No, it is just the opinion of Galaxy.
     
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    Yusuf,
    BJP is not a party, it's like malisia group in the parliament. they just want to get into power. fucvvk the ideology and all, wether india gets back to the
    hindu growth rate of 2-3%, they don't give rot about it. they are the mafia's taking the whole parliament for ransome. they did the same thing at the time of nuclear deal. they just cannot not digest the fact congress gets to libralise the economy and take all the credit. After babri masjid they should look for another of similar issue. this party based on religous ideology and nothing else. they protent to be very nationalists in front of sadhus,
    but mr advani skummed under public pressure and handed over the terriorst to pakistan back in the 90's.
    yet this man has the audacity of calling manmohan singh the most weakest prime minister. the most morally and ethically bankrupt party, india has ever seen. anways next lok sabha they are not even getting 116. their allys may get some more seats but BJP, I just don't see them performing any better than 2009. also the madhyapradesh chief minister who rants about GST and now about FDI retail is very unpoplar in his state, he going to lose in the next assembly. in UP I don't even think anybody takes tBJP seriously. they need find some 400 year old mosque surrouded by bushes to get back to power. also BJP is not good from the security point of view for india. a GOOD FOR NOTHING MAFIA.
     
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