Clinton mentions possibility of G-3 talks - India, US, China

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  1. ejazr

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    Friends, we had earlier discussed the need for India US China to have trilateral discussions on global issues and mark out their areas of core concerns so that neither side intereferes in ITS area of core concern. For India it is most crucial as it is the newest emerging economy of the three.

    Earlier I had mentioned how Foreign Secretary Mathai and discussed this in 2011. (http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-trilateral-dialogue-united-states-china.html)

    Now Clinton has also publicly acknowledged this reality. It seems that we be seeing a regular trialteral meeting between these three countries in the near future

    3-party talks with India, China essential: Clinton | The Jakarta Post

    A three-party dialogue involving India, China and the United States will be essential in the future, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said, in a sign that ties between the world's two largest democracies are still going strong.

    Clinton, whose visit to India followed those to China and Bangladesh, said this at a town hall-style meeting in Kolkata, the capital of West Bengal state, Monday.

    She told her audience that while she was in Beijing, she was “building a constructive relationship not only bilaterally, but among our three countries in fact”.

    “The trilateral connection among China, India and the United States will be essential in the future as well,” she said.

    Plans for such a trilateral dialogue have been in the works for some time. The US has said that consultations involving the three countries are crucial for resolving key issues such as climate change and global trade.

    India and China belong to the Brics group, comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. India is also part of a trilateral dialogue group with the US and Japan, which is viewed with suspicion by China. The group held its first trilateral meeting last December.

    An Indian official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said New Delhi was open to the idea of a trilateral dialogue with Washington and Beijing.

    “Let the US and China talk to each other and then we will take a decision. We are open to the idea,” said the official.

    Clinton, who noted that the strategic interests of India and the US were “increasingly aligning”, pushed India to further cut oil imports from Iran, which is suspected of developing nuclear weapons.

    “We commend the steps they have taken thus far. We hope they will do even more,” she said, ahead of talks today with External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna, who is likely to ask that India be exempted from US sanctions to be imposed on nations that still buy Teheran's oil.

    Clinton also urged India to open up its retail sector to foreign companies, as this would increase opportunities for its people and raise the standard of living.

    She later met West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee, whose party is the ruling Congress party's key ally. She blocked retail reforms that would have allowed supermarket chains such as Walmart to enter India to protect the country's small shopkeepers, who fear they would not be able to compete.

    The Chief Minister, who held talks with Clinton for over an hour, presented the top US diplomat with a scarf, as well as an English translation of Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore's Gitanjali, a collection of poems.

    Said Banerjee: “This is a matter of pride that a US secretary of state has come and talked to us here for the first time after independence.”

    “We are all happy, and we think that West Bengal should be a destination for investment,” she added.

    In the afternoon, Clinton arrived in the Indian capital, where she met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress president Sonia Gandhi. It is understood that PM Singh told her India would be going for huge infrastructure projects and would welcome US investments. They also talked about China, Iran and Afghanistan.

    Experts said Clinton's statement on retail reforms and her meeting with Banerjee were part of Washington's effort to encourage India to open up its markets.

    Said Professor Chintamani Mahapatra of Jawaharlal Nehru University: “Some day, the US would like to see India with more open markets in the service sector, insurance and banking, which are worth billions of dollars. It is a long-term goal to convince India, and every step is important.”
     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    This is interesting, I used to think G-3 as a possible axis in terms of India, China and Russia. New axis in making
     
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    Russia is gone. India even don't buy their Suxxx anymore. and too bad Russia don't have enough human resource now, human is base of everthing
     
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    clinton is a real slut. she will even give blow job to you if it suits american interest. at one had, she is threatening a sanction in july if india do not stop iran oil an d in the other hand she wants us to open up our markets for america. while american senators are lobbying to ban outsourcing to india.
     
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    I don't see the G-3 as some sort of alliance. But more as a way to minimise conflict and messaging exercise. Its always better to communicate rather than not. And the trilateral moot along with the India-US-Japan and possibly a future, India-US-Australia will help in making sure the situation is stable while India grows and develops its economy and strengthens its influence in the SAARC, West Asia/GCC , East Africa and ASEAN regions.
     
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    It can only be an economic grouping but i really doubt the work ability of this group. I really dont understand the recent fascination in the US and Obama admin in particular to for these Gs. First he thought of G2 with US and China till he got egg on his face. now G3.

    The only thing India will be interested is in a strategic partnership that suits its interests. China cannot be partnered as it is our enemy. We will trade with them but will always be at loggerheads. An Asian grouping which is military in nature is something that should come around and India should actively pursue it so as to pin the Chinese on many fronts.
     
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    There isn’t much for china in a grouping like this one, and had it not been for escalating tensions in SCS, I doubt China would have even bothered considering such a proposal. If something like G2 didn’t interest them, then a G3 or a SIC (S from US :p) wouldnt have either.

    China this time round will be forced to have a look in, more so because of the again warming of Indo-US relations, a partnership which has shared interests in the SCS. The two, to an extent have increased the stakes in the region, more importantly are collaborating. The most important part, US is again increasing its stakes in India and trying to push India at a more prominent position regionally and globally, so there will be a China which will be concerned and will have a rethink on the G3 or the SIC where they would like to get a hang of things on what is it that is a common agenda of the US and India and how they can make sure their interests don’t get affected.

    Makes me recall how the Indo-US nuke deal changed the way China looked at and interacted with India, something that never happened when the nuke tests were conducted by India, as per the Indian officialdom.

    If one looks from the US’ PoV, it is how they want to see Asia evolve where India gets to play a much bigger role which checks the diplomatic moves of the PRC for now. On China they have their goals well defined and India has role to play, for us it is important that we make the most of the opportunity.

    On who is the brain behind this idea, well, I am of the view its not an indian idea but and American, of course for the first time in public proposed by India so that the Chinese don’t get too concerned, which could have been a possibility had it come from the US where they would have seen this as one of those balancing acts being done by the US.
     
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    What talks?

    Where is the necessity?

    China won't change!
     
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    frankly speaking ,G3 is just a stunt to boost india's prestige.....India can hardly be looked on as a meaning one of G3,if G3 did exist.

    As for G2, Chinese hesitated to accept it,when US raised such a term.Chinese did so,just because CHinese did think that G2 was a trap that makes China burden more responsiblity.
     
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    You were hardly worth a permanent seat in the UN but still got it.
     
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    Im afraid to say but you're spot on :pound:
     
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    your saying china didn't agree to G2 and was hesitant and in the same sentence your claiming that India is meaningless ? It clearly shows who is afraid to sit at the table. CCP is shit sacred because it knows others are not bots like chinis.
     
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    Well, since india is so great. Why don't you guys just step forward and propose a G2: India-USA? Wait, there is no one think of it except indias!
     

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