Cleansing of Christians in Kashmir

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    MUMBAI: Alleging that " religious cleansing" was underway in Kashmir, Mumbai-based 'Catholic Christian Secular Forum' today demanded aid from Prime Minister's relief fund for the rehabilitation of Kashmiri Christians. "Religious cleansing is taking place in Kashmir....the Christians have to flee to other parts of the country," said Joseph Dias, General Secretary of CCSF, here. The state government, the courts and the Centre were not taking any steps to counteract this, he said. "A package from the Prime Minister's relief funds needs to be allotted for their rehabilitation.

    We are seeking appointment with the Prime Minister as we don't see that the Jammu and Kashmir government would be able to address our problems." Demanding jobs for the displaced persons, Joseph said that CCSF was not trying to give the issue Islam vs Christianity colour. He also alleged that Christians in the state were being pressured to convert.

    Advocate Iftikhar Bazmi, a peace activist from Kashmir, said the word 'secular' was not enshrined in the constitution of Kashmir."Christian community there must be protected and those who threaten them should be prosecuted," he said. Justice Michael Saldhana, former Bombay High Court judge, claimed that ten years ago there were 40,000 Christian families in Kashmir, but in the last 2 years, the number had come down to around 800. Two Christian youths from the region who were present at the press conference, their faces covered, alleged that they were tortured and hounded out of houses because of their refusal to convert.

    http://http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Christian-group-alleges-religious-cleansing-in-Kashmir/articleshow/12034519.cms

    first Kashmiri pundits now Christians. :tsk::tsk::tsk:
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Nothing wrong!

    Maybe the Kashmiris want a 'clean society' on their terms!
     
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    Christian population was around 0.5% few decade backs. What does it make difference ?

    Well, Fundamentalist and Fanatical do believe in ethnic cleansing. They did in many regions when they were majority or become majority.

    But Christians don't make any difference in Kashmir. What 0.5% population will make any difference in demographic and that also when more than 2/3rd lives in Jammu/Leh region ?
     
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    this not Pakistan nor Bangladesh, it's happening in our country and we are unable to stop it why? every one know the answer nobody wants to any thing.:doh:
     
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    I never knew the missionaries had reached J&K as well. Well people cannot be blamed for their dirty work. The Kashmiri Muslims really need to stop this Arabized insanity they call religious uniformity.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I take it that India is a secular country.

    How does percentages matter?

    Cleansing is cleansing!

    However, I like to believe that it is not Kashmiryat that is at work.

    But fundamentalist Wahhabism charmed by Saudi Wahhabi money!
     
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    for them (Muslims) Christians are more dangerous then us (Hindus) they were very successful in converting many even in Muslim countries.
     
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    Hindus are hardly left 1% in Kashmir. Few decades back, It was 25%.

    I don't think so that Missionaries can try their misadventure in Muslim majority region like Kashmir. Majority of Kashmiri Muslims are fanatic. Sufi days are gone.Islam doesn’t permit the conversion so easily. Christan population is not even 1%. So that means, Its failed. And in any case Muslim hardliners will not allow any such activity and Christians would be shit scared of trying to convert Muslims. It’s the Hindus who seem to be easy target to them. And therefore they go all out to try and ‘harvest’ as many souls as possible.
     
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    Made for each other------ Missionaries and Kashmiriyat......:rofl::rofl:

    Long live their union....
     
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    though I agree with what you're saying, your statistics are way off..

    hindus haven't been 25% in kashmir valley in a long time. even in 1947 the kashmir valley had an 90% + muslim majority. and stats actually show that the percentage of hindus in jammu has actually grown since 1947.
     
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    Thats could have been possible because of the migration from Kashmir to Jammu.... But thats not the issue here is it??? the percentage??? Its only an indicator which just shows the plight of the Kashmiri minorities.....
     
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    But if we ban all religions, it will be good for the entire country, no more quotas, no more riots, no more violence, no more seperatist demands, no more mistrust within Indians....
     
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    i was simply correcting galaxy's statistics as they were wrong. that's all.. other than that i agree with everything they said.

    but we all have to keep in mind that, unlike their pakistani counterparts, majority of kashmiri muslims are not extremists. in 1947 after the partition, anti-muslim riots in jammu did not instigate any violence in kashmir valley. have a one-on-one conversation with an average kashmiri muslim (especially the youth), you will see how secular they are.
     
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    I have interacted with many educated Kashmiri (muslim) youth and found them to be religious zealots.
     
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    i guess i've met a different breed of kashmiri muslims then.
    the ones i've met are anti-india but pro-secularism. and their vision of kashmir is a state where religion has no meaning. but they also admit that such a state could never exist, and that an independent kashmir would be an extremist one similar to pakistan.
     
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    You have met the Kashmiris of Srinagar and the urban areas.

    Kashmir is not Srinagar and urban areas.
     
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    It changed the name of Sheik Obdullah's party from Muslim Conference to National Conference!
     

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