Discussion in 'International Politics' started by Vinod2070, Apr 12, 2009.
more propaganda by the Obama administration
Totally crap news, look at the source, its Iran. They don't talk about of how this could happen?.
Interesting report. Israelites are known to be a gritty people surviving in an ocean of enemies. But it seems the people are no longer certain of the future and want to hedge their bets.
I think they should settle their differences with the Palestinians peacefully and give them their own state. Not that it will satisfy their mortal enemies but at least take out the moralistic posturing.
I thought the phrase is "writing is on the wall" and not handwriting!
That apart what in the world is going to provoke the dismemberment of Israel? I'm sure no war is going to that (with Arabs). Don't see an end to American patronage of Israel.
Did Zahid Hamid write this article?
The Jewish lobby in America is too powerful. They can create and destroy governments. The US will lose a strategic position in the Middle-East if Israel is lost. And manyof the high-tech corporate research takes place in Israel. I dont think the Americans will be ready to lose Israel.
this maybe written to increase aid to Israel??
Aid to Israel? I don't think they live on any aid from the US. They have a strong and vibrant economy and they make a lot of money selling arms.
They are just asking for the F22s I suppose.
True but USA may want to give money or a weapon to Israel where Obama may be questioned about his pseudoarab stance and articles like this could justify the delivery while still maintaining the stance. USA averages 3 billion a year in non military aid to Israel.
What's up with all this retarded news of countries falling ?
Some state Pakistan will fall in 6 months, now they say Israel will fall in 20 years.
It might be a tiny country, but they have enough military power to bully their way to survival.
They cant afford that nor will the US give anyone including it's stooges UK, Aus, Canada
Does Israel get the aid from the government or through agencies like the USAID?
AIPAC is one of the pro Israel lobbies in USA
The US lives on Jewish money.I mean most big financers, entrepreneurs are Jews. As a solution Israel might be cut up but never wiped out
Guys, Israel's survival depends as much on the utter incompetence of their Arab enemies as it does on their own power.
They may defeat the Arabs 10s of times, the Arabs need to defeat them just once! The Arabs have massive advantage in nearly every domain, the ratio is like 1:50 to 1:100.
Even their utter incompetence has a limit! With odds like that, there may just be an off day.
Israel is not going down anytime soon.
You forget that the Arabs and Israel both use US weapon systems.
As soon as the US blocks weapon support, Arabs will have another sorry page in their history.
Vinod, the ratio of Arabs might be to their advantage, but tell me, which Arab country is going to fight Israel and stand their weapons. And don't forget that America is not going to sit idle and do nothing when israel is being attacked.
Ok let's list down potential enemies and what they can do.
1) Saudi Arabia:- Totally an American ally and hence will not get into trouble with the US or Israel. Besides it's weapon system is completely western. Never know when their equipment works like the Tomcats Iran has.
2) Egypt:- Same as above but minus the western weaponry. Has Soviet era junk.
3) Syria:- sponsor of terrorists. Let them get Golan Hieghts first and then dream of entire Israel.
4) Iraq:-What to say about it?
5) Iran:-though non Arab, it's a sworn enemy of Israel, but it is not accepted in the Arab fold as it's largely Shia. Has a decent armed force but not good enough.
6) Jordan:- not that relevant in military status.
Let's not forget the trump Israel has. Nukes. It will use it if its survival is at stake.
Egypt has around 200 F-16s, 25 Phantoms, 23 C-130J Hercules, 9 Beechcraft 1900s, CH-47, AH-64 Apache , Sikorsky S-70 Black Hawks, Kaman SH-2 Seasprite etc.. etc..
And the spearheads of the army are M1A1/M1A2 MBT and M60A3 MBT.
So quite a lot of western weaponry.
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