Chinese vessels in Kerala waters under Sri Lankan flag

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Fishermen alarmed by Chinese vessels under Lankan flag

    Fishermen’s organisations and boat owners in Kerala are wringing their hands over Sri Lankan government’s recent decision to let more than a dozen Chinese fishing vessels to operate under the island country’s flag under an arrangement called ‘distant water fishing’.

    The arrangement lets a country’s fishing fleet to scoop up marine wealth from another country’s exclusive economic zone for money.

    On Saturday, a statement by Matsya Thozhilali Aikya Vedi said the move to let Chinese vessels operate close to common fishing ground between India and Sri Lanka would affect the livelihood of thousands of fishermen.

    The Chinese vessels, reported to be more than 150 feet long, would sweep clean India’s best deep-sea fishing resource in the Wadge Bank, south of Cape Comorin and extending up to Sri Lanka over an area of about 4,000 sq. miles, which was a common fishing ground for the two neighbouring countries, claimed Charles George, convenor of the Aikya Vedi.

    He said one of the resources that would be hauled away in mammoth scale by the industry-scale boats operating in the sea off India would be oceanic tuna which the country has just begun to exploit.

    A scientist studying tuna catch and business said fallout of high level of tuna fishing in the common fishing ground had begun to show with the tuna catch by Indian fishermen plummeting since 2008.

    Lakshwadeep fishermen specialised in skipjack tuna had reported serious catch reduction. The total catch fell from 8,000 tonnes to 1,500 tonnes in 2011. But last year saw some improvement with tuna catch going up to 2,500 tonnes, said E. M. Abdussamad, senior scientist at Central Marine Fisheries Research Institute.

    He said tuna were a migratory species and fishing in the Chagos Lakkadeve Ridge area, which runs close to India and through which large schools of tuna migrate, had a big impact on the stock of tuna.

    Nine species of tuna are there in Indian waters. India has a potential to net 1.7 lakh tonnes of the commercially important oceanic tuna a year. However, the country has been catching only around 25,000 tonnes a year so far. The Chinese vessels will likely snatch away a share of this meagre catch too.

    However, coastal tuna, swimming closer to the shores, were well-exploited with landings amounting to around 80,000 tonnes out of an estimated potential for more than one lakh tonnes, said Dr. Abdussamad.

    Mr. George said overexploitation of tuna resources had landed fishermen in the Maldives in trouble. And in India, fishermen in Koclachel, Kanyakumari district faced a similar fate. Mechanised Boat Owners’ Association said issues like this one had been brought to the notice of the Union government six months ago in a memorandum.

    Joseph Xavier Kalappurakkal of the association said more than 70 Letters of Permission had been issued to foreign vessels to operate in the seas off the Indian coasts. He said there was no way to check how many vessels exploit resources in Indian Exclusive Economic Zone, and warned that Indian deep sea resources were being exploited without any check.

    Mr. George alleged that at least a hundred vessels were trawling in waters close to Indian economic zone and sometimes within the territory, indiscriminately harvesting resources like oceanic squid.
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    Can't China do anything except copy, cheat & steal?

    :facepalm:
     
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  4. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Those fishing vessels could be like the Soviet trawlers which were actually electronic surveillance and hydrographic vessels.
     
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    More sucking up to Lankans is needed.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Board, detain, threaten, and kill if required. SL can declare a war on India :D
     
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    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Sri Lanka is a rouge nation who can cross all the lines and protocols a legitimate nation is suppose to respect. Another Pakistan in making.
     
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    What is common fishing ground?
    What's its legality?
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    For starters India should abrogate the Agreement on Kachchativu island

    This island was given to Sri Lanka by India in 1974 on a conditional basis. It has a Catholic shrine.

    The handing over of the island to SL is not legal.

    Whenever a part of the country has to be ceded to another nation, it has to be done through a legislation after getting nod of both Houses of Parliament.

    As far as Katchatheevu is concerned, no such legislation was enacted. And it is true that ceding is not constitutionally valid since the islet was ceded to Sri Lanka by way of an agreement.

    974 agreement had allowed traditional fishing rights for fishermen of both countries and both India and Sri Lanka could not prevent fishermen of either nation from fishing in Katchatheevu.

    However, contrary to the agreement Sri Lanka was preventing Tamil Nadu fishermen from fishing there besides damaging their fishing nets and arresting them,

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    t_co Senior Member Senior Member

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    Right, because issuing letters of permission in your own EEZ is an illegal and aggressive act, and deserves such a response.

    Are you daft?
     
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    t_co Senior Member Senior Member

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    Sri Lanka is somehow supposed to consult with India before it lets Chinese boats fish in Sri Lankan waters? @HeinzGud, I thought Sri Lanka was an independent country.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    No.

    Just learnt something from the Chinese.

    Should not board.

    Just ram!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Should consult where the conditionalities of the boundaries are very slim!

    SL is an independent country. I am sure you have no doubt about that, more so, since it is not contagious to China! ;)

    No chance of China doing an Inner Mongolia or Tibet!

    Even though you have the Ma Zheng He's, the great-great-great-grandson of Sayyid Ajjal Shams al-Din Omar, maps! ;)
     
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    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Double post
     
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    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Pakistani,

    If Sri Lanka is that independent then it should have its own boats, own flags and own people on those boats.

    Since you are Pakistani so you will not be able understand how genuine nations behave, heck your nation can send Soldiers to infiltrate other sovereign nations in civil dresses to fight wars and then abandon them high, dry and dead.
     
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    Bah!!!!!! First Pakistan now Sri Lanka next will be Maldives, Myanmar & Bangladesh.

    I have heard Indian Navy & Coast Guard is planning to lease berthing rights at Vizhinjam International Seaport, Kerala.
     
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    No srilanka is our close friends we should not blow small things,we should bow downt to them
     
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    so what is the use our leaders don't have the balls to take concrete decisions any way so it another news another day :drunk:
     
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    srilanka is exploiting india's weakness with china card. coz there know that, india have lost tamil card when srilanka wiped LTTE . still i don't think srilanka is without any soft spots or weaknesses ? can any one mention what are those that india could exploit as srilankan weaknesses..
     
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    lol. Tu quoque - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Running out of logical fallacies to abuse, Ray?

    I am not a Pakistani.

    A nation has a right to offer its flag to whatever vessels it so chooses to do so. You don't see the US getting its panties in a twist when Panama charters Chinese vessels. Ergo, your point is irrelevant.

    Why should Sri Lanka abrogate its own sovereign rights in the face of Indian displeasure? Why should it care?

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    Are all of you guys this bad at epistemology?

    The real funny thing here is how Sri Lanka activities in their own EEZ get classified as an internal security matter in India. @HeinzGud, it almost sounds like India is claiming the entire island as "an internal affair" :rofl:
     
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    I think it is a slap in the face for India. Because GOI didn't take much precautions to stop illegal poaching by TN fisherman in SL water and now they have to face the big and better Chinese fishing vessels.
     
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