Chinese vessel rams into Filipino fishing boat: 1 dead

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Sure we will but nuke weapons is not the answer it will kill us all you know thank for you advice pretty good points comrade and i thank you again but they must fire first that's the thing here and from what their media tell us all the time they are planing too so we just have to wait right now the effort must be in diplomacy to try to solve it peacefully (its impossible now history shows the chinese cant not be trusted and see eye to eye like you said comrade) while building up defenses like what we are going right now slowly but surely because we have too if they attack us we have some means to fight back its question who fires first.

Again opinion noted and thanks but nuke weapons and how the war will be fought is up to the actions of the imperialist chinese sooner or latter they have their dues paid in full for their arrogance as history has shown.
Just few years, your navy boats harrassed every chinese fishboat in that area and put them under arrest. Chinese gov had to pay the fines for their release. At that time, I didn't see any philipines saying that we should talk it through. Now, China is fighting back and you are complaining this harrassment. To most of chinese, it is the time for you to pay your price of your arrogance.
 

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Re: Chinese vessel rammed a Philippine fishing boat

Its OK for China law enforement department to finally do their job.
 

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Just few years, your navy boats harrassed every chinese fishboat in that area and put them under arrest. Chinese gov had to pay the fines for their release. At that time, I didn't see any philipines saying that we should talk it through. Now, China is fighting back and you are complaining this harrassment. To most of chinese, it is the time for you to pay your price of your arrogance.
any link on that story? any idea why they are arrested? in china, is getting arrested a form of harassment?
 

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China has never "occupied" Scarborough shoal. While we have exercised sovereignty and jurisdiction since our independence. We have a lighthouse there since 1957. Control of the area which is effected by frequent patrols as allowed by our small fleet of boats and policing of these waters for decades without protest from any other country claimants, including arrests of both chinese and vietnamese fishermen illegally fishing in Philippine jurisdiction or using illegal fishing methods in our waters. In the 1700's philippine map(Carta Hydrographical y Chorographical De Las Yslas Filipinas by Fr. Pedro Murilo Velarde, S.J. and published in 1734)clearly state that scarborough shoal was already part of zambales province, under effective control of the spanish in the Philippines back then.

All you(Chinese) did was criticize Philippine evidences about the treaty of Paris, about republic act 3046, about Unclos. China is fabricating their claims. Notice that instead of proving their claims, they try to discredit the claims and evidence of other countries like the Philippines and Vietnam which holds a lot of history in the areas involved. However, these evidence are real and factual and cannot be rebuked, unlike that of China's where their claims are unclear, the evidence either fabricated or missing.

The Chinese claim to have 'been there first' is like arguing that Europeans got to Australia before its aboriginal inhabitants.
China's historical evidence is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND. And everything is just based on what their government claiming. No pictures available on the net or newspapers. The Chinese government is just fabricating LIES about their history.

Just because China decided to one day include the entire SCS as part of their maps they become the owner of waters long controlled by other South East Asian countries like Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei??? Answer: NO!!!

Using only "might is right" against the complete idea of "might is right and right is might" is called barbarism in the modern civilized world. Pretty much what China is doin right now.

For sure, China has the power to impose its will. But its aggressive stance towards the Philippines, so often seen as an especially weak state, has alerted others, including Japan, Russia and India as well as the US, to its long-term goal which is not ownership of a few rocks but strategic control of the whole sea, a vital waterway between northeast Asia and the Indian Ocean, the Gulf and Europe. The Scarborough Shoal is not just a petty dispute over some rocks. It is a wake-up call for many countries.


The Philippines has indisputable sovereignty and jurisdiction over Scarborough shoal and China is welcome to try to rebuke it in the courts any time. The philippines has already invited china a number of times to resolve the dispute through arbitration by the international court, which china turned down repeatedly because they know themselves theyll lose. It is therefore without doubt, that the Philippines is the rightful owner of scarborough shoal and that its sovereignty is indisputable


RUSSIA -
March 13, 2012: Russia Pronounce its support to the Philippines over Spratly disputes with china and other claimants. Philippines
- Russia is supporting the Philippines' stand that RULES based on
transparency and diplomacy should be used to resolve maritime issues.

ASEAN
Leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) have agreed that the regional Code of Conduct in the South China Sea should integrate provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (Unclos), a treaty that the Philippines cites in its claim to disputed Scarborough Shoal and other islands.

EUROPEAN UNION
EU-Asia Center director Fraser
Cameron said during a forum in Manila that the EU supports a rules-based
international system and liberty of navigation. The EU believes that territorial disputes should be resolved "in
accordance with international law through peaceful and cooperative
solutions."

NEW ZEALAND
New Zealand backs Philippine position on Spratlys

New Zealand supports the position of the Philippines and other allies
that claimants to the Spratly chain of islands must heed the United
Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Department of
National Defense said Friday.

MALAYSIA
Malaysia backs Philippines in dispute vs China

Malaysia is supporting the Philippines'
stand that Manila's dispute with China over ownership of Scarborough
shoal should be resolved based on the United Nations Convention on Law
of the Sea (UNCLOS), Vice President Jejomar Binay said Tuesday.

VIETNAM BACKS THE PHILIPPINES
1) Support for the "sovereign rights" of the Philippines in the Scarborough Shoal.
2) Opposition to China's use of the "nine-dashed line" to make
overlapping claims with the Exclusive Economic Zones and continental
shelves of the Philippines, Vietnam and other ASEAN countries, as well
as opposition to "China's actions and threats of force," the latter
presumably referring to articles in China's state controlled press.
3) Support for the Philippines' proposal to submit the dispute at
Scarborough Shoal to the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea
(ITLOS).

JAPAN
President Benigno Aquino III on Tuesday night secured Japanese Prime
Minister Yoshihiko Noda's support for a peaceful resolution of the
six-nation dispute over the potentially oil-rich Spratly islands.
Following the meeting, the President and Noda "confirmed that freedom of
navigation, unimpeded commerce, and compliance with established
international law including the UNCLOS and the peaceful settlement of
disputes serve the interests of the two countries and the whole region."
UNCLOS refers to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

AUSTRALIA
Australia said those involved in the territorial dispute — Brunei,
China, Malaysia, Philippines, and Taiwan — should adhere to the United
Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), which codifies the
international law of the sea.

Australia's expression of support came less than a week after Washington expressed its support to Manila over the same issue.

USA
International Law Should be Used.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday pledged to
support the Philippines amid growing tensions between China and its
neighbors in disputed areas of the South China Sea (or West Philippine
Sea).

No country supports China's 9 dash line


Maps Showing Scarborough Shoal and Spratly Islands part of the Philippines.

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you don't have to give this big writing on this topic. eveybody understands the chinease. as per them all the ancient world was china. so they just started reclaiming what belonged to them from the very begining. even half india is claimed by china. in another ten years the whole of india will be claimed by them. you see the point we were all chinease before and china only wants everyone to remind of that.
 

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any link on that story? any idea why they are arrested? in china, is getting arrested a form of harassment?
fzaq, it looks you are a reasonable person, hopefully you president is half reasonable of you.
this was incident , your fishermen hit by HK ship, you say Chinese evil.
here you are:
1/ Jun. 4th 2001, 12 Chinese fishermen arrested by Philippines Navy. 55 turtles found in greedy Chinese boat.
2/ Jan. 10th 2004, 17 Chinese fishermen arrested by PH navy, fined $10,000, boats forfeited, jail 5 or 6 years. what's the hell they were fishing?
3/ Jun. 19th, 2006,8 Chinese fishermen arrested by PH navy, 100 turles found and couple sharks found in greedy Chinese boats. weird food culture Chinese have.
4/ Apr. 26th,2009,4 Chinese fishmen arrested.
5/ May. 20th, 2010,9 Chinese fishmen arrested. turles found.

and you kicked our ass during korea war. that can not be forgetted, Chinese can't stand lose face.
 
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May 26,2000, 7 fishermen arrested, captain killed by PH navy.
Dec 5, 2011, 6 arrested, 12 turtles found(3 alive , did you guys release them?), looks turtles everywhere.
.....
total, more than 100 fishermen arrested,6 killed.
not inlcude those 12 HK tourists.
everytime arrestment means fine. Chinese did not feel too bad , we have money, but kicked by PH duing korea war, all around the world will moch us.
 
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Just few years, your navy boats harrassed every chinese fishboat in that area and put them under arrest. Chinese gov had to pay the fines for their release. At that time, I didn't see any philipines saying that we should talk it through. Now, China is fighting back and you are complaining this harrassment. To most of chinese, it is the time for you to pay your price of your arrogance.
They were not harass they were arrested for violating Philippine waters only your country is doing the harassing and who told you? your so called media? face your chinese are nothing but troublemakers you been doing this since ever.
 

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fzaq, it looks you are a reasonable person, hopefully you president is half reasonable of you.
this was incident , your fishermen hit by HK ship, you say Chinese evil.
here you are:
1/ Jun. 4th 2001, 12 Chinese fishermen arrested by Philippines Navy. 55 turtles found in greedy Chinese boat.
2/ Jan. 10th 2004, 17 Chinese fishermen arrested by PH navy, fined $10,000, boats forfeited, jail 5 or 6 years. what's the hell they were fishing?
3/ Jun. 19th, 2006,8 Chinese fishermen arrested by PH navy, 100 turles found and couple sharks found in greedy Chinese boats. weird food culture Chinese have.
4/ Apr. 26th,2009,4 Chinese fishmen arrested.
5/ May. 20th, 2010,9 Chinese fishmen arrested. turles found.

and you kicked our ass during korea war. that can not be forgetted, Chinese can't stand lose face.
Other chinese propaganda we kick your ass not the other way around and besides all of the vets of the so called PVA were sent to prison or went back to Taiwan when are you people going to stop lying?
 

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May 26,2000, 7 fishermen arrested, captain killed by PH navy.
Dec 5, 2011, 6 arrested, 12 turtles found(3 alive , did you guys release them?), looks turtles everywhere.
.....
total, more than 100 fishermen arrested,6 killed.
not inlcude those 12 HK tourists.
everytime arrestment means fine. Chinese did not feel too bad , we have money, but kicked by PH duing korea war, all around the world will moch us.
Sure whatever dude you and your country are still lying people!
 

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Just few years, your navy boats harrassed every chinese fishboat in that area and put them under arrest. Chinese gov had to pay the fines for their release. At that time, I didn't see any philipines saying that we should talk it through. Now, China is fighting back and you are complaining this harrassment. To most of chinese, it is the time for you to pay your price of your arrogance.
What rights Chinese have in Phillipino waters? There is International Law which Chinese are committed to obey or must be made to obey !
 

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What rights Chinese have in Phillipino waters? There is International Law which Chinese are committed to obey or must be made to obey !
Well comrade the chinese are too arrogant to obey international standard
 

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He is an indian using chinese flag. No need to work your-self up.
If he is he is sure being as deceptive and cunning as any common Chinese!

And he sure knows all about China!
 

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@Iceberg

Your comment on Satish using false flag.



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wow how human of you
 

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Its OK for China law enforement department to finally do their job.
Well do you admit your country is now the modern Nazi's?
 

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What rights Chinese have in Phillipino waters? There is International Law which Chinese are committed to obey or must be made to obey !
What international law recognise that area as phillipino waters? China, vietnam, taiwan, etc, all claim that area as their own. What make phillipin's claim stand out above others?
 

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