Chinese version of Russian jet endangers bilateral relations

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  1. nandu

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    Chinese version of Russian jet endangers bilateral relations

    Despite holding the position as one of the world’s biggest economies, China seems unwilling to shed its reputation for producing cheap replicas.

    And one of their more ambitious copycat efforts may put a strain on Russia-China relations.

    “This Chinese plane is simply a Russian design stuffed with local electronics,” says Maksim Pyadushkin from the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technology about the Chinese J11B jet’s resemblance to the Russian Su-27. “It’s a knock-off.”

    Last year, Russian aircraft sales internationally topped $3 billion – second only to the US. But others too want a slice of the aviation pie.

    Vadim Kozyulin, program director for conventional arms from the Russian Center for Policy Studies, says that fake Su-27s are widely offered in the world arms market. “Sooner or later, Russian arms traders will face competition from the Chinese colleagues,” he told RT.

    China was given the design plans for the Russian fighter jet in 1995, when it promised to buy 200 kits and assemble them domestically. After building 100 planes, the Chinese said the Russian plane did not meet specifications, only for a copycat version soon to appear – “Made in China” – without copyright.

    The threat from China is real, and it will be difficult for the Russian aviation industry to maintain its lofty position, and soar further unless it manages to better protect its intellectual rights and also find new ways of co-operating with its eastern neighbor.

    Although it made its maiden flight over 30 years ago, the Su-27 remains the bedrock of the Russian air force, and is highly popular abroad.

    “I don’t think anyone who’s flown on the SU-27 can ask for a different plane, unless we are talking about a new generation jet,” believes Lt. Colonel Andrey Alekseyev, Air Force Pilot. “It’s maneuverable and has a huge range.”

    Some are calling for calm over the controversy. While the similarities between the two planes are clear, experts say the Chinese J11B does not have the latest Russian high-tech features and will be no match for it on the international market.

    The best way to fight copyright violations is to be technologically ahead of your rivals, claims Maksim Pyadushkin from the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technology. “The biggest problem for Russia is that it has been living off the legacy of the Soviet Union, and soon its technology may no longer be the world leader,” he asserts.

    Rather than a continuing dogfight over the copycat plane, it is possible that Russia and China may yet settle the matter amicably – at the highest political level.

    But in the shady world of international weapons copyright, similar cases are sure to follow.

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  3. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    haha, Russia's sour grapes again!

    it is very odd that "good-quality made by Russian" are afflicted by the perhaps ass-kick by "poor-quality Chinese copy" all day and all night..

    Frankly speaking, I am very enjoying that Russians are afflicted by "made in Chinese".

    anyhow, Rivals always deserve more respects than the weak
     
  4. SATISH

    SATISH DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    Yes BG...hope they dont stop the supply of spares for your Al 31 engine.
     
  5. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    why don't you try persuding them to stop the supply?
     
  6. SATISH

    SATISH DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    Why should we?...trying to run away from the truth by starting a flame war?...Its Russia's problem and they will deal with it whenever they want. Stop trying to lure me with a flame bait.
     
  7. ahmedsid

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    BG2K, Does this mean, that the Mighty Chinese Still Need Spares for the Sour Russian Engines? Why dont you make your own engines and spares? The Russians have every right to be sore, because you are blatantly Copying their technology!
     
  8. maomao

    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    Here you go, now Russian media is shouting "cheap-copy cat china openly"

     
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  9. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    If we break down China's reliance on Russia it is even worse than that. All J-10s and their future production rely on it. H-6K bomber production and their maintenance. Su-30MKK/MK2 rely on it. J-11 rely on it. Il-76 rely on it. FC-1 production rely on it. Their modern aviation would come to a complete standstill and have to rely on their IP theft of 1960s engines. It is a powerful trump card Russia holds.That isn't even approaching the fact they have $20 billion of advanced fuel payments they could renege.
     
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