Chinese prime minister censored by Communist party

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  1. ajtr

    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    Chinese prime minister censored by Communist party

    Wen Jiabao, the Chinese prime minister, has seen parts of his speeches blacked out by Chinese censors at least four times in recent months, it has emerged.

    The revelation came in an open letter from a group of 23 veteran Communist party reformers to China's National People's Congress.
    The reformers argued that China's Propaganda department is now so powerful that it controls even the country's top leaders.

    "Not only the average citizen, but even the most senior leaders of the Communist party have no freedom of speech or press," the letter said, before listing the occasions when Mr Wen's remarks about political reform had been censored inside China.
    "On August 21, 2010, Premier Wen gave a speech in Shenzhen called, 'Only by pushing ahead with reforms can our nation have bright prospects'. [However] Xinhua News Agency's official news release omitted the content in Mr Wen's speech dealing with political reform," it said.
    Again, on September 22 and 23, Mr Wen saw his comments on political reform on his trip to the United States dropped from news reports in China. A rare interview with CNN, in which Mr Wen pledged to fight for political reform despite "some opposition" from within his party, has also been blocked inside China.
    "We would ask, what right does the Central Propaganda department have to muzzle the speech of the prime minister? What right does it have to rob the people of our country of their right to know what the prime minister has said?" asked the signatories. The letter, which was posted on Sina, one of China's most popular websites, was itself quickly deleted.
    Li Rui, Chairman Mao's personal secretary and a former member of the Communist party's Central Committee, was one of the signatories calling for China to allow free speech and to abolish state control of the media.
    Mr Li said that even an essay that he had written for the People's Daily, China's party newspaper in 1981, had been deleted from a recent book by censors. "What incredible folly it is that an old piece of writing from a Party newspaper cannot be included in a volume of collected works!" said the letter. "What kind of country is this? Such strangling of the people's freedom of expression is entirely illegal," said Mr Li.
    The letter described the secretive operation of the Propaganda department. "If we endeavour to find those responsible [for the censorship] we are utterly incapable of putting our finger on a specific person. They are invisible black hands, often ordering by telephone that the works of such and such a person cannot be published, or that such and such an event cannot be reported in the media. The officials who make the call do not leave their names but you must heed their instructions."
    Other signatories included Huang Jiwei, a former editor of the People's Daily, and Zhong Peizhang, a former senior official at the Propaganda department.
     
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  3. Rebelkid

    Rebelkid Regular Member

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    LOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooool , their prime minister got cencored ? WHo in CP has the right to censor the PM ?
     
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    This shows that there is no freedom of speech what so ever in CHINA. If the Chinese Primier Wen Jiabao himself is restricted and has no freedom of speech, think what freedom do the Chinese people enjoy in their country. It is clear that a military rule and a kind of DICTATORSHIP is going on in CHINA
     
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    Wen's boss Zhao Ziyang supported students in Tiananmen event in 1989, you still can find the photo of Wen and Zhao in the square with students. But he had been promoted rapidly to PM, it seem CCP wants keep inside balance, not only sub-party, but ideas, and show different images of top leaders.
    I think he is not a Gorbachev.
     
  6. Rebelkid

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    China will have to do some reforms soon, the appeals for freedom of speech is increasing and in this globally networked world china will not be able to contain the flow of information . Better tell your citizens yourself before they find it out themselves(what ever censored stuff maybe)
     
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    To my understanding, the PM isn't the most powerful man in the CCP, rather his role is more ambassadorial than administrative. Hu Jintao is the all-powerful man. So when "ambassadors" make slight mistakes, it's censored.

    In another view, this could be China's tried and tested "double-speak" strategy of telling one thing to the International community or a certain section of the people (through Jiabao), and letting the Chinese people believe something else (as far as state policy goes).
     
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    The Power Struggle Among China's Elite

    Reminbi revaluation, South China Sea brinksmanship, a Nobel scuffle. What's making the Chinese act so crazy? Hint: it's election season in Beijing and no one really knows who's in charge.


    When U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates landed on Oct. 10 in Hanoi, he hoped to demonstrate Washington's commitment to stability in Southeast Asia. It turns out he was pushing on an open door: Countries in the region are deeply anxious about Beijing's naval buildup and its recent aggressive moves to turn the Pacific Ocean into a Chinese lake.Meanwhile, Beijing is lashing out at the West over human rights, the environment, and the valuation of its currency, leading many to argue that China's rise is finally beginning to have the destabilizing impact so long predicted by some leading international relations scholars and pundits. But many observers are missing another important driver of Beijing's recent assertiveness: China's foreign policy is not in the hands of its diplomats.

    Officially, China's highest-ranking foreign-policymaker is Dai Bingguo, who ranks only 50 in the whole political system. The real power is in the Politburo of the Communist Party -- and, to be precise, in its nine-member-strong standing committee. It is here that the directions to get tough on Japan over the South China Sea, or the United States over renminbi revaluation, are made. And Friday marks the start of the annual four-day Politburo meeting, which begins with a unusual cloud hanging over preceedings.

    This Chinese "elite of elites" is somewhat distracted at the moment. In about two years' time, seven of the current nine will have reached retirement age and will need to step aside. Every five years, during the party congress, the next generation of leaders is elevated, and 2012 is going to be a big year: We will see a shift from the "fourth generation" of Chinese leaders under President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao to a "fifth." A new era will start. And in theory, Hu and Wen will sink into quiet retirement, minding their own business and letting the younger guys (and perhaps this time one woman) get on with running the show.

    Only this time there are a couple of problems. The first is that there is no powerful elder patron who can direct this whole process smoothly. Deng Xiaoping, the paramount leader of his day, anointed Hu many years before he finally got to the top. It ensured that his road was relatively clear. Deng's immense prestige and reputation meant anyone arguing with Hu had to reckon with the influence and legacy of Deng.

    While Hu's predecessor, Jiang Zemin, still exercises influence, even in his mid-80s, he has nothing like the clout of a Deng. So the transition this time will be without a patriarch's guiding hand. That means that while politburos before have had high turnovers, the impact of a large number retiring this time could be far more destabilizing.

    No one knows what kind of battles might be taking place now in the central government compound in Beijing where the key leaders live and work. The politburos under Hu and Wen have been watertight. Nothing much gets out about who supports whom, and who is in favor, who in danger. Rumors have swirled around Wen for some time about his lack of support in the party and his occasionally falling foul of Hu. He appeared in the southern city of Shenzhen in late August talking up political reform, leading to speculation that he was trying to create at least some legacy on the more liberal side of the party. But before anyone could get too excited, Wen produced the strongest condemnation of the Japanese when they detained the captain of a stray Chinese ship near disputed sea territory in September. Was he opportunistically compensating for being accused of being too soft earlier in the year? We simply don't know. Wen's recent interview with Fareed Zakaria -- censored by state media -- only adds to the uncertainty. Unlike with Western rulers, however, the habit of producing lengthy autobiographies after politicians leave office has yet to catch on in China, so we will probably never find out for sure what exactly has been going on.As in other political cultures, foreign policy is an easy way for Chinese leaders to outmaneuver their opponents. The Communist Party is certainly nobody's idea of a democratic institution, but it has plenty of divisions -- and not just between left and right, liberal and conservative, traditional and modernist. It has different kinds of elites and business interests, and different leadership dynamics depending on whether one is looking at the party in the capital or the provinces. The Communist Party's dominant figures in a central region like Hunan, for instance, exercise just as much power over their local area as diktats from Beijing.

    At the best of times, forging consensus in a 78 million-strong entity, with so many different levels and interests to satisfy, is hard. But when a major change at the top looms, things get even more precarious, especially in view of the fact that this process has never been tried in this way before. Exactly how the current front-runners to replace Hu and Wen in 2012, Xi Jinping and Li Keqiang, are supposed to demonstrate their legitimacy, both publicly and within the party, is unclear. Analysts and observers are already attempting to search out hints about who might be in which position. But the fact that with only two years to go, so few of the other seven Politburo slots have clear front-runner candidates is a bit worrying. The longer this goes on, the more troubling it gets. The idea that figures will simply walk out from behind the red curtain in the autumn of 2012, with no preparation, and go straight into a Politburo job is absurd.

    That means that, in a closed, one-party system, we are in fact entering the oddest kind of election period. With a hundred little gestures and signs, particular candidates, from Chongqing party boss Bo Xilai, to current Vice Premier Wang Qishan, to Guangdong boss Wang Yang, to head of the powerful personnel department Li Yuanchao, are having to stake out their territory. Showing a slightly harder face to "foreign aggression and interference" might be a good "election platform" on which to stand -- never mind that external observers might be wholly clueless as to where this sudden angry assertiveness came from and what is driving it.

    Of all the many things we don't know about who the next leaders of China might be, there are a few things we can be certain about. Whoever the leaders are, they will not be technocrats the way the previous generation was. There will be political scientists, economists, and lawyers running China into the future now -- very much like in the West. The era of the engineers and geologists is coming to an end.

    China's new leaders will have no immediately obvious link to the military. None of the likely candidates for leadership after 2012 has ever served in the army, or ever directed it. But most ominous of all, because of their age (mid-50s onward) they will all be people who were brought up and educated during the 1966-1976 Cultural Revolution, the most closed, xenophobic era in post-1949 Chinese history. None will have studied abroad for any length of time, and they will all have limited international experience.

    A far more auspicious sign is that their key advisors and those they will be grooming, in five to 10 years after 2012, to take over China will be from the generation from which huge numbers studied in the West. They will be some of the most-sophisticated, best-educated leadership elite of any country in the world.

    Until 2012, however, expect some uncomfortable moments, and some surprises. The Communist Party cannot allow its leadership transition to become a no-holds-barred battle for power. But in view of the stakes, it shouldn't shock us to see individuals and the groups they are associated with start clashing with each other. We just have to hope the system as it exists can take this tension and deliver an outcome in autumn 2012 that is acceptable, sustainable, and, most important of all in view of the vast internal challenges facing China in the coming years, workable.
     
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    [/QUOTE] among these names - a new generation to steer CCP
     

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