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99.99999999% of the chinese don't even know there was a war.
88.5% of the rest of the world don't know either.

that leaves only the 17.5% of the worlds population that incidentally is indian who know. I think if there is one group that hasn't moved on, its that 17.5%.

I mean if the viets have forgiven the US, the indians can forgive the chinese.
Possibly 100% Chinese don't know there was a war.

It is not the policy of the Communist Chinese Govt to break the truth to the Chinese people that, notwithstanding the war, the propaganda must sing that China is a peace loving nation and does not go to war!
 

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Indeed.

So, your idea is being westernised is being prosperous.

Though you sport the Australian flag, you are a Chinese and so one understand your mentality - Money at all cost and damn the principles.

The colour of the cat is not material, so long as it catches mice,right?

In other words, its OK to sell your soul to the Devil, so lot as there is a pot of Money while you burn in Hell, right?!
My idea of westernization is moving forward rather than being stuck in the middle ages.

I sport the Oz flag, and I am anglo, but I understand the chinese mentality of prosperity as its common for every culture. even the indian culture has this in common, but theres a difference in achieving it. Its not your fault that you have corrupt officials.

Its this desire and motivation for profit that sets us anglos apart. Just look at the east india company. We really proffited big and prospered because of it.

The colour of the east india company doesnt change. It still flew the same flag.

dont Indians want prosperity?
 

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Posters : Read the thread topic and Post accordingly..
 

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99.99999999% of the chinese don't even know there was a war.
Those remaining 0.000000001% Chinese are right here on DFI! :yey:

88.5% of the rest of the world don't know either.

that leaves only the 17.5% of the worlds population that incidentally is indian who know. I think if there is one group that hasn't moved on, its that 17.5%.
88.5 + 17.5 = 106%
Who are those 6%? :hmm: The regular Chinese we get to see in Australia are meticulous!


I mean if the viets have forgiven the US, the indians can forgive the chinese.
Well, after the Chinese occupied contested territory, it did not keep quiet even after that! It gave Pakistan nukes and missiles all in an effort to contain India and then backed terrorists attacking India in the United Nations! Unfortunately for us Indians, unlike 99.99999999% of the Chinese, the CCP takes India very seriously! :sad:
 

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None of these treaties also signified that the territory belongs to China!
The Treaty of Paris (1898), the treaty of Washington (1900) and the treaty between Great Britain and the United States (1930) clearly delineated the limit of the Philippine territory and Huangyan Island is outside this limit.

Lol, why do we need those treaties to specify what belongs to China?

The purpose of the treaties were to specify what belongs to Philippine, not what belongs to China. Anything that was not mentioned in the treaties don't belong to Philippine, that is for sure, so Philippine has no legitimacy to claim Huangyan Island.
 

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99.99999999% of the chinese don't even know there was a war.
88.5% of the rest of the world don't know either.

that leaves only the 17.5% of the worlds population that incidentally is indian who know. I think if there is one group that hasn't moved on, its that 17.5%.

I mean if the viets have forgiven the US, the indians can forgive the chinese.
dont try to persuade people from a different country,especially when u share different interest and ideology.

there is no right or wrong.only compromise or conflict.
 

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The Treaty of Paris (1898), the treaty of Washington (1900) and the treaty between Great Britain and the United States (1930) clearly delineated the limit of the Philippine territory and Huangyan Island is outside this limit.

Lol, why do we need those treaties to specify what belongs to China?

The purpose of the treaties were to specify what belongs to Philippine, not what belongs to China. Anything that was not mentioned in the treaties don't belong to Philippine, that is for sure, so Philippine has no legitimacy to claim Huangyan Island.
Your reason is pointless try another one.. make it convincing... and learn how to read... look at my post again and this time.. try to comprehend it.
 
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Your reason is pointless try another one.. make it convincing... and learn how to read... look at my post again and this time.. try to comprehend it.
My reason is pointless? Then your arguement is just a pile of BS.

It is a fact that the 3 treaties that your country is built upon never included Huangyan Island as territory of Philippines?

While Chinese maps have showed Huangyan Island as Chinese territory long before the founding of Philippines, why didn't you people contested when those important treaties were signed? And Chinese sovereignity over Huangyan Island doesn't need to be confirmed by treaties about Philippines, why does it need to be?
 

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My reason is pointless? Then your arguement is just a pile of BS.

It is a fact that the 3 treaties that your country is built upon never included Huangyan Island as territory of Philippines?

While Chinese maps have showed Huangyan Island as Chinese territory long before the founding of Philippines, why didn't you people contested when those important treaties were signed? And Chinese sovereignity over Huangyan Island doesn't need to be confirmed by treaties about Philippines, why does it need to be?

The Philippines as an archipelargic nation has borders defined by its baselines. These baselines are formed by connecting its outlying islands to encompass the Philippines archipelago. The treaties you mentioned are examples of how the baselines are formed (if you really understand these treaties). As per UNCLOS policies (where both Philippines and China are signatories), from these baselines.. a 12 NM distance defines its maritime territories. Here no foreign ships are allowed to enter without permission. Also from the baselines a 200NM distance defines the nation's EEZ. Here foreign ships have right to innocent passage but the the Philippines have exclusive rights to the use and administration of natural resources. The scarborough shoal falls about 120NM from the nearest Philippines baseline which makes it part of its EEZ.

So, the Philippines claims the shoal as part of its EEZ and not part of its maritime terrirory nor contiguous zone. The shoal is also not an island.. it is a low tide elevation and unclos defines that as ..."Where a low-tide elevation is wholly situated at a distance exceeding the breadth of the territorial sea from the mainland or an island, it has no territorial sea of its own".
 

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http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20121210-388608.html

As China's clout grows, sea policy proves unfathomable



Another complicating factor in the competing territorial claims in the South China Sea is that Beijing itself has left ambiguous exactly what the "nine-dash line" on Chinese maps of the region implies
Carlyle Thayer, a South China Sea specialist at the University of New South Wales in Australia, said in 26 academic conferences he has attended in the past two years, repeated questions to multiple Chinese scholars about just what the line means yielded no clear answer."No one in China can tell you what that means," he said. "You have competing actors all backing Chinese sovereignty in an area where no one knows where it is, so it's inherently ambiguous."Chinese government agencies had different opinions, said a senior diplomat, who has been assigned to a Southeast Asian embassy in Beijing."China does not even have the exact coordinates of its expansive claim in the area, making it quite difficult to determine where its claims begin and end," he said. "We have been asking them for their exact coordinates and they cannot present them to us."
 
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