Chinese Naval Vessel Tries to Force U.S. Warship to Stop

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    A Chinese naval vessel tried to force a U.S. guided missile warship to stop in international waters recently, causing a tense military standoff in the latest case of Chinese maritime harassment, according to defense officials.

    The guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens, which recently took part in disaster relief operations in the Philippines, was confronted by Chinese warships in the South China Sea near Beijing’s new aircraft carrier Liaoning, according to officials familiar with the incident.

    “On December 5th, while lawfully operating in international waters in the South China Sea, USS Cowpens and a PLA Navy vessel had an encounter that required maneuvering to avoid a collision,” a Navy official said.

    “This incident underscores the need to ensure the highest standards of professional seamanship, including communications between vessels, to mitigate the risk of an unintended incident or mishap.”

    A State Department official said the U.S. government issued protests to China in both Washington and Beijing in both diplomatic and military channels.

    The Cowpens was conducting surveillance of the Liaoning at the time. The carrier had recently sailed from the port of Qingdao on the northern Chinese coast into the South China Sea.

    According to the officials, the run-in began after a Chinese navy vessel sent a hailing warning and ordered the Cowpens to stop. The cruiser continued on its course and refused the order because it was operating in international waters.

    Then a Chinese tank landing ship sailed in front of the Cowpens and stopped, forcing the Cowpens to abruptly change course in what the officials said was a dangerous maneuver.

    According to the officials, the Cowpens was conducting a routine operation done to exercise its freedom of navigation near the Chinese carrier when the incident occurred about a week ago.

    The encounter was the type of incident that senior Pentagon officials recently warned could take place as a result of heightened tensions in the region over China’s declaration of an air defense identification zone (ADIZ) in the East China Sea.

    Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently called China’s new air defense zone destabilizing and said it increased the risk of a military “miscalculation.”

    China’s military forces in recent days have dispatched Su-30 and J-11 fighter jets, as well as KJ-2000 airborne warning and control aircraft, to the zone to monitor the airspace that is used frequently by U.S. and Japanese military surveillance aircraft.

    The United States has said it does not recognize China’s ADIZ, as has Japan’s government.

    Two U.S. B-52 bombers flew through the air zone last month but were not shadowed by Chinese interceptor jets.

    Chinese naval and air forces also have been pressing Japan in the East China Sea over Tokyo’s purchase a year ago of several uninhabited Senkaku Islands located north of Taiwan and south of Okinawa.

    China is claiming the islands, which it calls the Diaoyu. They are believed to contain large undersea reserves of natural gas and oil.

    The Liaoning, China’s first carrier that was refitted from an old Soviet carrier, and four warships recently conducted their first training maneuvers in the South China Sea. The carrier recently docked at the Chinese naval port of Hainan on the South China Sea.

    Defense officials have said China’s imposition of the ADIZ is aimed primarily at curbing surveillance flights in the zone, which China’s military regards as a threat to its military secrets.

    The U.S. military conducts surveillance flights with EP-3 aircraft and long-range RQ-4 Global Hawk drones.

    In addition to the Liaoning, Chinese warships in the flotilla include two missile destroyers, the Shenyang and the Shijiazhuang, and two missile frigates, the Yantai and the Weifang.

    Rick Fisher, a China military affairs expert, said it is likely that the Chinese deliberately staged the incident as part of a strategy of pressuring the United States.

    “They can afford to lose an LST [landing ship] as they have about 27 of them, but they are also usually armed with one or more twin 37 millimeter cannons, which at close range could heavily damage a lightly armored U.S. Navy destroyer,” said Fisher, a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center.

    Most Chinese Navy large combat ships would be out-ranged by the 127-millimeter guns deployed on U.S. cruisers, except China’s Russian-made Sovremenny-class ships and Beijing’s new Type 052D destroyers that are armed with 130-millimeter guns.

    The encounter appears to be part of a pattern of Chinese political signaling that it will not accept the presence of American military power in its East Asian theater of influence, Fisher said.

    “China has spent the last 20 years building up its Navy and now feels that it can use it to obtain its political objectives,” he said.

    Fisher said that since early 2012 China has gone on the offensive in both the South China and East China Seas.

    “In this early stage of using its newly acquired naval power, China is posturing and bullying, but China is also looking for a fight, a battle that will cow the Americans, the Japanese, and the Filipinos,” he said.

    To maintain stability in the face of Chinese military assertiveness, Fisher said the United States and Japan should seek an armed peace in the region by heavily fortifying the Senkaku Islands and the rest of the island chain they are part of.

    “The U.S. and Japan should also step up their rearmament of the Philippines,” Fisher said.

    The Cowpens incident is the most recent example of Chinese naval aggressiveness toward U.S. ships.

    The U.S. intelligence-gathering ship, USNS Impeccable, came under Chinese naval harassment from a China Maritime Surveillance ship, part of Beijing’s quasi-military maritime patrol craft, in June.

    During that incident, the Chinese ship warned the Navy ship it was operating illegally despite sailing in international waters. The Chinese demanded that the ship first obtain permission before sailing in the area that was more than 100 miles from China’s coast.

    The U.S. military has been stepping up surveillance of China’s naval forces, including the growing submarine fleet, as part of the U.S. policy of rebalancing forces to the Pacific.

    The Impeccable was harassed in March 2009 by five Chinese ships that followed it and sprayed it with water hoses in an effort to thwart its operations.

    A second spy ship, the USNS Victorious, also came under Chinese maritime harassment several years ago.

    Adm. Samuel Locklear, when asked last summer about increased Chinese naval activities near Guam and Hawaii in retaliation for U.S. ship-based spying on China, said the dispute involves different interpretations of controlled waters.

    Locklear said in a meeting with reporters in July, “We believe the U.S. position is that those activities are less constrained than what the Chinese believe.”

    China is seeking to control large areas of international waters—claiming they are part of its United Nations-defined economic exclusion zone—that Locklear said cover “most of the major sea lines of communication” near China and are needed to remain free for trade and shipping.

    Locklear, who is known for his conciliatory views toward the Chinese military, sought to play down recent disputes. When asked if the Chinese activities were troubling, he said: “I would say it’s not provocative certainly. I’d say that in the Asia-Pacific, in the areas that are closer to the Chinese homeland, that we have been able to conduct operations around each other in a very professional and increasingly professional manner.”

    The Pentagon and U.S. Pacific Command have sought to develop closer ties to the Chinese military as part of the Obama administration’s Asia pivot policies.

    However, China’s military has shown limited interest in closer ties.

    China’s state-controlled news media regularly report that the United States is seeking to defeat China by encircling the country with enemies while promoting dissidents within who seek the ouster of the communist regime.

    The Obama administration has denied it is seeking to “contain” China and has insisted it wants continued close economic and diplomatic relations.

    President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping agreed to seek a new type of major power relationship during a summit in California earlier this year. However, the exact nature of the new relationship remains unclear.



    Chinese Naval Vessel Tries to Force U.S. Warship to Stop in International Waters | Washington Free Beacon
     
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    Re: Chinese Naval Vessel Tries to Force U.S. Warship to Stop in Intern

    Let the show begin. ( we are ready with popcorn)
     
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    Re: Chinese Naval Vessel Tries to Force U.S. Warship to Stop in Intern

    once again...people...pay your attention to the "source" please...

    always bringing these faked news here would turn down the level of this forum...

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    LOL...Dec 05?

    CV16 Liaoning Docks in Sanya port on 30th Nov and sailed again on 10th Dec....such faked news could only fool the fools...and only fools never learn...

    China's aircraft carrier docks in Sanya 2013-11-30

    PLA carries out military tasks in South China Sea 2013-12-10
     
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    Re: Chinese Naval Vessel Tries to Force U.S. Warship to Stop in Intern

    lol, smacked down
     
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    Re: Chinese Naval Vessel Tries to Force U.S. Warship to Stop in Intern

    Posturing and bullying, the key elements of Chinese foreign policy.
     
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    the American warship was there monitoring Chinese military drill, causing trouble to navigation of Chinese navy.

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    There are only two choices left - either China backdown or US removes itself from the South China Sea.

    If none of the parties are willing to concede then let the shooting begin.

    Nothing will be resolved by colliding with each others naval ships.

    Follow this by cutting off US import of Chinese goods and US Treasury stop selling monthly bonds to Chinese interests. The forgoing is a more powerful message than firing at each others ships.

    Let us see who backs down first.

    Can China afford to unemploy 25 million people if $500 worth of exports are turned away? US can afford not to look for additional Chinese export earnings used to buy US Treasury bonds. Other countries can quickly fill the void of consumer goods in US.

    No matter which way you look, China would come out looser.

    But a powerful message will be delivered to China that, they were asking for too much, rather expecting too much from their dominant consumer goods position in the West.

    US at the moment is cutting back on US Tresury bonds sale, so it suits them fine. Hence go ahead and do it. Alternative is let China grow and allow it to bully it's neighbours.
     
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    well, you are too serious..


    the only thing USA should do is just to stop peeping other's Drill,although USA is addicted to peeping and spying.
     
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    PLA carries out military tasks in South China Sea
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    Can any one give the link that the aircraft carrier was docked in Sanya port and did not take part in the exercises?


    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/828762.shtml#.UqwPx_QW2VM

    This article clearly mentions that the AC will take part in exercises in SCS after docking in Sanya.
     
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    USN will not remove itself from International Waters because of Chinese tantrums, I would hope. After that, Chinese would claim more and more territory, threaten more and more Asian countries.
     
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    Good excuse... If Chinese Navy can do drill on international waters then it is within US Navy right to monitor your drill too...
     
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    The world communities have to confront this neo fascist collectively or else it will create more trouble and destabilization in the neighborhood… the choice we have to make it does understand the only language as we have seen in the ADIZ case… China loves the middle finger...
     
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    then it's within PLAN's right to take actions to any threatening monitoring.

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    Then be prepared to get another embarrassment like in ADIZ...

    PLAN will do nothing... does PLAN have any experience in taking actions ??? it will run away simply...
     
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    I hope hot heads like you prevail in the PLA so that we can have a real showdown, not just posturing. :popcorn:
     
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    PLAN just forced American warship to turn around, isn't it what we are just discussing here.

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    yes exactly... US Navy ran away when they saw mighty PLAN...
     
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    Next what's on the agenda of PLAN to stop USN ships, swarming technique as devised by Iranian navy?
     
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    If Chinese claim monitoring is a threat, then China should curtail its own monitoring activities. I doubt that will happen.
     
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    Or USA should hire merchant men to snoop as the Chinese do with their fishing trawlers.Make it global standard for monitoring.
     

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