Chinese fisherman fatally stabs South Korean officer over illegal fishing

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  1. rock127

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    Chinese fisherman fatally stabs South Korean officer over illegal fishing
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    SEOUL, South Korea — A Chinese fishing captain fatally stabbed a South Korean coast guard officer and wounded another Monday after they stopped his boat for illegally fishing in crab-rich South Korean waters, officials said.

    South Korea, which had asked China's ambassador just last week to try to rein in illegal Chinese fishing its waters, lodged a strong protest with the diplomat over the latest incident — the first deadly clash between the South Korean coast guard and Chinese fishermen in three years.China's Foreign Ministry, meanwhile, urged Seoul to safeguard the rights of detained Chinese fishermen. However, an analyst said the incident was unlikely to significantly affect overall ties between the countries.Officers from two coast guard ships boarded the fishing boat over suspicions it was illegally operating Yellow Sea waters rich blue crabs, anchovies and croaker, when the captain attacked with an unidentified weapon, coast guard spokesman Kim Dong-jin said.
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    A South Korean officer stabbed in the side was taken by helicopter to a hospital in the port city of Incheon but later died, Kim said. The other officer was stabbed in the abdomen and was to undergo surgery. The Chinese captain had minor injuries from the fight and was also taken to the hospital, Kim said.The weapon was not identified. Besides the captain, eight other Chinese fishermen on the boat were arrested and taken to Incheon, the coast guard said in a statement.Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin said Monday in Beijing that the ministry was ready to work with South Korea on the case. He told a daily news conference that Chinese authorities had taken steps to better educate fishermen "to prohibit cross-border fishing and irregularities."
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    Liu called on Seoul to "fully protect the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese fishermen and provide them with due humanitarian treatment."
    Last week, South Korean authorities raised fines levied on foreign fishing vessels caught operating in Seoul's self-declared exclusive economic zone, an apparent reflection of the government's impatience with a rising number of Chinese boats found fishing in the waters.
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    "Eradicating Chinese boats' illegal fishing in our waters is a most urgent task to safeguard our fishermen and fisheries resources," South Korea's Yonhap news agency said in a recent editorial. "The government should mobilize every possible means and continue the crackdown on illegal fishing."Monday's fighting isn't likely to undermine overall ties, although Seoul is expected to pressure Beijing harder over illegal fishing, said Lee Chang-hyung of Seoul's government-affiliated Korea Institute for Defense Analyses.
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    The coast guard says it has seized about 470 Chinese ships for illegal fishing in the Yellow Sea so far this year, up from 370 last year. The coast guard usually releases the ships after a fine is paid, though violence occasionally occurs.
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    Chinese fishing fleets have been going farther afield to feed growing domestic demand for seafood.

    With some 300,000 fishing vessels and 8 million fishermen, the Chinese fishing industry is by far the world's largest, producing an annual catch in excess 17 million tons. But catches have decreased in waters close to China's shores, forcing the fleet to venture farther.

    In 2008, one South Korean coast guard officer was killed and six others injured in a fight with Chinese fishermen in South Korean waters. Last year, a collision between a Chinese fishing boat and Japanese coast guard vessels led to a diplomatic spat between the countries over disputed islands in the East China Sea.

    Starting in 2009, China's fishing fleet has also appeared to be acting in concert with the nation's perceived intention to press forward with claims in disputed maritime areas — 2009 was the deadline imposed by a U.N. treaty for continental seabed contestants to file formal undertakings — and by a sense that the financial crisis in the West had opened the door to more assertive Chinese behavior in areas it had long regarded as falling within its legitimate sphere of influence.
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    In March of that year, several Chinese fishing trawlers accompanied by two Chinese fisheries enforcement ships and at least one Chinese naval vessel harassed an American surveillance ship 75 miles (120 kilometers) south of China's Hainan island.
     
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  3. Nagraj

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    that's one assertive chinese.........
     
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    now this is called arrogance.

    chinese should be treated like the way treated in mekong by asean nations. forcing china to jointly patrol. same can be done by south korea and japan which are way more powerful than thailand and myanmar and militarily more independent too.
     
  5. ice berg

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    Your post dont make sense. It was China who took the initiativ to joint patrol in Mekong.

    South Korea and Japan join patrol in Korea water? You must be kidding.

    South Korea is more than able to take care of themselves inside their own water.

    The fishman was arrested , right?

    Try not to make a big fuss out of nothing.
     
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    yes they are capable but instead of operating in such a hostile environment where such people who prefer to stab instead of showing up doccuments fish, there is a need to keep a check from both side. i dont think chinese coast guard is so weak to keep a check on such a big illegal fishing lobby. so many illegal fishing trawlers cross chinese water into korean waters. chinese in first place should not allow such rodents to pass onto other's water.

    same like in mekong.
     
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    To reduce the number of illegal fishing? Maybe, to stop it all together? Doubtful.
    I am sure illegal fishings happends everywhere. Not an excuse though.
     
  8. kickok1975

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    When fishing resource is exhausted by years of predatory finishing in China seas, its nature to expect more Chinese fisherman go on adventure to other places which could cause more conflicts with neighbors. A fisher man dared to break the law and stabbed a law enforcer to death; his livelihood must be pushed to the corner. Chinese government and its policy should take the big blame.
     
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    What does the government got to do with it?
    It is all about profit.
    Like you said yourself, the fishing resources are exhausted by years of predatory fishing.
    Ask yourself this, who eat all those fishes?
    An hint, the fisherman dont eat all those fishes themselves.
    So in the end who is to blame?
     
  10. Nagraj

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    neighbor of chinese.
    all people including us indians should consider china our master and leave our resources for them.........:tsk:
     
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    True, blame the Fish for getting exhausted. I hope CCP issues a notice in this regard against the Fish.
     
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    Why our fishing resource is exhausted? Because corruption is everywhere and the protection law is never enforced by local authority and ignored by fisherman. Each local government is so selfish in order to get a short term economic boost; they encourage more fishing and production. Fisher men are using fishing net with smaller hole that even small fish can’t escape.
    If China doesn’t enforce law, don’t expect Chinese fisher man to respect foreign law. That’s how this tragedy happens. By the way, don't forget our close seas are all heavily polluted.
     
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    What has the Govt got to do with it?

    Good point.

    So, the Govt is not responsible for the action of its people and that too in international waters!!

    By your logic, why have the Chinese Navy go after the Somali pirates if by Chinese logic murder on the high seas for profit is kosher?
     
  14. RedDragon

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    I must say it is a typically Chinese thinking style, blame government for every mistake and ask the government for the solution for every problem.

    The fisherman himself should not be blamed? This man will stab anybody who stop him from finishing, no matter Korea or Chinese officer.
     
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    Fisheries & fishers won't dare to cross water boundaries unless they are granted security from Govt/Coast Guard. The way chinese fishermen crossed boundaries & stabbed SK officer tells that they've support from domestic bodies. Needless to say that this is another hegemonic mischief from dragonland.
     
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    The Chinese shippie thinks he is some type of sea cucumber?
     
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    I would rather blame a corrupted government's exploitation than blame a poor fisherman'a wrongdoing.
     
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    it applies to korean man killing chinese officer after being stopped for doing something illegal in chinese sea.

    it applies when vietnamese fisherman stabs a chinese official in south china sea over illegal fishing?
     
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    It applies when the Gang of Four are killed by Mao and his goons?
     
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    Gang of Four are killed by Mao :pound: Should I pay 50 cents for this joke?
     
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    If you receive 50 cents for every mistake you correct on Rays post on chinese issues, you will be a millionaire before you know it.
     

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