Chinese Coast Guard Tactics

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  1. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Vietnam and China: A Dangerous Incident | The Diplomat

    央视首次曝光中国海监船南海撞击越南船只画面_网易新闻中心
     
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    If true, does that justify this kind of aggression by China?

    From The Diplomat article:

     
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    Agression? Not really, it's pure self defence.

    A Chinese exploring vessel was operating there, then came a dozen of Vietnamnese armed military vessels, disrupting the exploring process and attempting to board.

    Chinese vessel called for help, and several Chinese marine surveillance ships came to rescue. Vietnamnese military vessels then took dangerous moves by navigating their ships toward CMS, ignoring the safty of Chinese crew.

    CMS retaliated by taking the same tactics, that was what happened.

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    Self-defense is not indicated by ramming another ship.
     
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    unless the other ship started the game.

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    Apparently China "started the game" by occupying a disputed territory by force.

    Like Chinese news media, you condone Chinese aggression and use of force and believe the idea that Might makes Right.
     
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    Sometime back I saw a vedio of a Vietnamise ship ramming a Chinese vessel in self defense... I will post the vedio if I get it from net...

    So the moral of the story is Chinese are making provocative movements... that requires suitable response...
     
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    Since it's a game everyone is playing, why not just join the game?

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    Apparently, Vietnam started the game by claiming Chinese territory.

    Chinese civilian law enforcement vessels vs Vietnamnese military vessels, you tell me who is using force.

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    So others are stealing... why not me [read China]...
     
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    I meant they rammed us, we cant retaliate?

    but i am glad that you admit they are stealing from us.

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    A comment from the original article:

     
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    The South China Sea's disputed maritime borders


    DISPUTES:

     
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    Have you watched the footage from the documentary, or are you just following the assertions of the Tokyo-based blog you're quoting?

    After the armed Vietnamese Navy vessel had broken through the DEFENSIVE cordon the CMS vessels had established and was sailing towards the survey ship, what do you sugest they should have done?

    Weren't the Vietnamese ships the aggressors here?
    At least be consistent in your criticisms.
     
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    The article's main argument is about the number of years China's policy of this type of aggression has been used.

     
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    The article's main argument is using said "aggression" as justification for Obama's "pivot to asia". Which is why I'm disregarding the author's spin on the incident.

    And I'll ask again, who is the aggressor here?
    The CMS ships maintaining a defensive cordon around a Chinese survey vessel in Chinese controled waters, or the Vietnamese Navy ships trying to force the survey ship from those waters?

    Because if Chinese NAVY ships were to attack a Japanese survey vessels operating in the waters around the diaoyutai's I'd be willing to place an extremely large bet on what your opinion on the matter would be.
     
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  20. W.G.Ewald

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    Of course any Western writer's opinion is "spin" to you. Nothing new about that.

    A search of the term "Chinese aggression" just on DFI would be revealing.
     
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    Why would Chinese authorities release a documentary that highlights CMS "aggression"? Watch the documentary and stop letting other people tell you what to think.

    On the contrary, there are many "western" authors who objectively report on East Asian matters. Try looking for a few University papers which actually substantiate their claims with verifiable facts..

    What I do know is that you won't find many at The Diplomat. Which is a blog by the way; where authors write their unsubstatiated opinions not the gospel.
     

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