Chinese CM-400AKG anti-ship missile

[satish007]

I do not know what you are talking here. I ask if all chinese weapon are junk as you claimed, why you India need to spend billion and billion dollar to import your 'so-called' advanced weapon'? understand me? Keep relaxing and spending money somewhere (Do not worry China because all their stuff are junk, right).

What indian fear is nothing ralated to chinese weapon, they fear maoist which able to make PLA so mad beyond Indian can imag

 

[s002wjh]

Pray tell me, which hypersonic cruise missile are you talking about. There are none in the world as of today. If it was so easy as you say, then mid course correction would be possible in every ballistic missile on the planet, but we don't see that, do we? Also, look at what the other guy said. He claimed that the missile was fire and forget. Even if mid course was possible(which is not), it wouldn't make the missile fire and forget.

like i said midcourse is not hard to correct, typically BM stay in mid-course more than 10mins, and its not fast as terminal speed. the speed of eletronic transmission is 299 792 458 m / s, you do the math. if a rocket/shuttle craft can have GPS onboard, so can BM. current ICBM hit fix target, so GPS is not absoulte necessary component. but there is some light read on the subject. today electronic can calculate much faster than before, GPS is used in BM/other missiles(such as rocket artillery) the missile guidance only need a GPS receiver. GPS is an inexpensive way to change direction of missile during mid-course

GPS-Aided Guidance for Ballistic Missile Applications: An Assessment | RAND
GPS.and.Radar.aided.inertial.navigation.system.for.Missile.system.applications

 

[farhan_9909]

jft 130km range is for fighter size targets not big ships

the apg68 radar range for fighter size is roughly 150km but it can detect sea borne target even at 296km

and it might be based off the kh15 but does it even matter as even the brahmos is based of yakhont

the missile can shoot moving targets with higher speed
weight less
2 can be carried by each jft

and posses a good antiship capability.this is What matter

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Which Chinese plane can carry the weight of the missile and still have an RCS under 500??

 

[J20!]

Which Chinese plane can carry the weight of the missile and still have an RCS under 500??

*shaking head* Your only problem with this missile is that its Chinese. Stop with the obvious envy... All Chinese warplanes have an RCS under 500 genius. Even the monstrous B52 doesn't have an RCS topping 500m^2...

 

[LETHALFORCE]

How many Chinese planes fly at B-52 altitude?? Don't compare Chinese junk to quality weapons.

 

[J20!]

How many Chinese planes fly at B-52 altitude?? Don't compare Chinese junk to quality weapons.

Every flanker in the PLA's inventory can top B52's 50000ft altitude ceiling. Not forgetting the J10's and even the PLA's JH7A's. B52 is an over 50 year old airframe, there's nothing impressive about its max altitude...

If the Chinese defense industry, the fourth largest exporter of defense tech produces "junk", then what does the world's largest importer of defense tech produce?

Produce a technical critique of the CM-400AKG, not your usual stereotypes.

 

[Ray]

*shaking head* Your only problem with this missile is that its Chinese. Stop with the obvious envy... All Chinese warplanes have an RCS under 500 genius. Even the monstrous B52 doesn't have an RCS topping 500m^2...

That will be the day when anyone has envy over Chinese copycat junk!

Exports defence goods to which country?

North Korea and some African dictatorships as aid?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Every flanker in the PLA's inventory can top B52's 50000ft altitude ceiling.

Every B-52 has a quad .50 in the tail.

Well, they used to, anyway.

Tail gunner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cinoti]

That will be the day when anyone has envy over Chinese copycat junk!

Exports defence goods to which country?

North Korea and some African dictatorships as aid?

Nah, NK is too poor to buy Chinese weaponry, we are just donating weapon to them, our biggest importers include Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Argentina, Venezuela, Turky, Thailand, Pakistan. Bangladesh, Myamar, Srilanka, list goes on...of course our friendly nations in Africa, which are more democratic than Indian and have a lower poverty rate than India.

By the way, some AK 47 India imported from Russia were made in China

 

[Ray]

Nah, NK is too poor to buy Chinese weaponry, we are just donating weapon to them, our biggest importers include Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Argentina, Venezuela, Turky, Thailand, Pakistan. Bangladesh, Myamar, Srilanka, list goes on...of course our friendly nations in Africa, which are more democratic than Indian and have a lower poverty rate than India.

By the way, some AK 47 India imported from Russia were made in China

Jolly good.

India will be having a jolly because of that!

Selling what?

ICBMs or the usual rifles and tanks?

If China made the AKs, were they licensed or pirated?

India also has many Chinese weapons that have been recovered from the terrorists!

Those countries do require weapons and none other are ready to sell them any and so China is the answer.

Good for them!

 

[Kunal Biswas]

If that would happened, Russians would have jumped out of buildings or do something drastically mad..

Link please..

By the way, some AK 47 India imported from Russia were made in China

 

[huaxia rox]

1 i suggest those who comparing CM400 to C802 or saying CM400 is some kind of C802 to simply find the picture of C802...of couse i also see someone comparing CM400 to KH-15 who at least made some sense......

2 this missile for PLA themselves would be put in 052D according to some source......besides its already openly for the international market.....if you doubt its data then keep doubtting it.....no one is asking you to believe........and who ever wanna believe this can simply go to test and buy the missile to see if the data is true......

at least we wouldnt do something like we force anyone to buy the weapon and then we cant give it or i keep delaying or i screw the thing but you still have to pay me the money which has been increased serveral times and you cant even have some penalty fee charged when the screwup happens........

 

[farhan_9909]

@huaxia rox

you are right both c-802 and cm400akg are different missiles

C-802

cm-400akg

 

[farhan_9909]

CM-400akg Derived from Yj-12 not C-802/03 series

At the 9th Zhuhai Airshow, another hypersonic missile designated as CM-400AKG made its debut in real form, though its photo had previously appeared at Paris Airshow. Developed by China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC), the successor of several developers of YJ-12 after numerous reorganization, CM-400AKG has reduced range of 180 to 250 km in order to meet the export restriction of Missile Technology Control Regime. The original western erroneous claims of CM-400AKG as a development of C-802/C-803 proved to be incorrect,[7] because CM-400AKG is a derivative of YJ-12 instead, using solid rocket motor propulsion as opposed to the ramjet engine of YJ-12,[8] and CM-400AKG is similar to YJ-12 in many aspects, such as the supersonic speed, and more importantly, the exact same high-low flight path of first cruise at higher altitude and then the steep dive on the final approach.[9]
The 400 kg CM-400AKG is termed by CASIC as hypersonic since it can reach speed greater than Mach 4 at its terminal stage, and its guidance system includes GPS, onboard radar, and an image recognition system that can identify a specific target, it can also be pre-programed to destroy the ground targets with precision by uploading the digital imagery of the target or it can be re-targeted using its active radar seeker. Originally developed as a air-to-surface missile (ASM) against fixed and slow moving target,[10] an anti-shipping missile (AShM) is also developed for Pakistan, which claims it as an aircraft carrier killer.[11] The two difference CM-400AKG models can be easily distinguished by the difference between the arrangement of forward control surfaces of the two model: the AShM version has four short and smaller forward control surfaces,[12][13] while the ASM version has four much larger forward control surfaces.[14][15][16] Pakistan is the first export customer of CM-400AKG, deloying it on CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder

YJ-12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[farhan_9909]

CM-400akg Derived from Yj-12 not C-802/03 series

At the 9th Zhuhai Airshow, another hypersonic missile designated as CM-400AKG made its debut in real form, though its photo had previously appeared at Paris Airshow. Developed by China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC), the successor of several developers of YJ-12 after numerous reorganization, CM-400AKG has reduced range of 180 to 250 km in order to meet the export restriction of Missile Technology Control Regime. The original western erroneous claims of CM-400AKG as a development of C-802/C-803 proved to be incorrect,[7] because CM-400AKG is a derivative of YJ-12 instead, using solid rocket motor propulsion as opposed to the ramjet engine of YJ-12,[8] and CM-400AKG is similar to YJ-12 in many aspects, such as the supersonic speed, and more importantly, the exact same high-low flight path of first cruise at higher altitude and then the steep dive on the final approach.[9]
The 400 kg CM-400AKG is termed by CASIC as hypersonic since it can reach speed greater than Mach 4 at its terminal stage, and its guidance system includes GPS, onboard radar, and an image recognition system that can identify a specific target, it can also be pre-programed to destroy the ground targets with precision by uploading the digital imagery of the target or it can be re-targeted using its active radar seeker. Originally developed as a air-to-surface missile (ASM) against fixed and slow moving target,[10] an anti-shipping missile (AShM) is also developed for Pakistan, which claims it as an aircraft carrier killer.[11] The two difference CM-400AKG models can be easily distinguished by the difference between the arrangement of forward control surfaces of the two model: the AShM version has four short and smaller forward control surfaces,[12][13] while the ASM version has four much larger forward control surfaces.[14][15][16] Pakistan is the first export customer of CM-400AKG, deloying it on CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder

YJ-12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[farhan_9909]

cm-400AKG carry upto 400kg of warhead combines with 5.5mach of KE

it left no reason why it is called a carrier killer

With 400kg warhead and Kinetic energy it can sink any ship known to exist and can put off a carrier from operation from atleast 1-2 years(repairing) and 2 missile hit.than Khufa hafiz

Meanwhile each JFT will carry 2 of them

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[t_co]

Good missile. Pakistan should get more of them. The standard ratio in Soviet times was 60x-100x missiles per US carrier. If the IN is going to get three carriers, Pakistan should get 180 to 300 of these missiles, and be prepared to overwhelm the IN anti-missile suite as soon as hostilities commence.

 

[farhan_9909]

Good missile. Pakistan should get more of them. The standard ratio in Soviet times was 60x-100x missiles per US carrier. If the IN is going to get three carriers, Pakistan should get 180 to 300 of these missiles, and be prepared to overwhelm the IN anti-missile suite as soon as hostilities commence.

Most likely the first batch order won't be less than 100 at the moment.(which is already operational on JFT)

apart from this we are also making supersonic variant of Babur cruise missile that could be used for anti-ship role as well

Most important addition of whom from indian media and defence analyst for atleast 2 years would be the integration of babur naval variant with Submarine(1500km range+300kg warhead(the yield would atleast be more than 50kt vis a vis plutonium) or enough to destroy 2-3 cities each of hiroshima size

because of CM-400akg one missile in indian inventory which previously was tauted among the fastest in world is now regarded as "RICKSHAH" missile

if you don't know about rickshah than google it plzzz

 

[maomao]

I hope pakistan gets blessed with all the chinese / sub-standard / cheap products!