Chinese city hotels asked to turn away people from five Muslim countries

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  1. Blackwater

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    BEIJING: Police have ordered some low-end hotels in the Chinese metropolis of Guangzhou not to allow guests from five Muslim-majority countries to stay, though China’s foreign ministry said it had never heard of the policy.

    Three hotels with rooms costing about $23 a night said they had received police notices as early as March, telling them to turn away people from Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Afghanistan.

    :pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

    “I’m not clear about the reason. We just can’t take them,” one hotel worker said by telephone.

    ‘Pakistan among countries on the list’
    :pound::pound::pound::pound:The notice appears only to apply to cheaper hotels at the bottom of the price scale.

    All of the five countries have been beset by terrorist attacks in the past few years, or in the case of Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan have been in states of war.

    Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post said on Friday the rule appeared to be a security measure coinciding with a development forum being held in Guangzhou this week, and also ahead of next week’s G20 summit in Hangzhou, though the two cities are more than 1,000km apart.

    Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said he was not aware that such an order had been issued in Guangzhou. “I’ve never heard that there is this policy being followed in China,” Lu told a daily news briefing.

    “Moreover, as far as China is concerned, our policy in principle is that we encourage people from China and other countries to have friendly exchanges and are willing to provide various convenient policies in this regard.”

    Published in Dawn, August 27th, 2016
     
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  3. Blackwater

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    Three hotels with rooms costing about $23 a night said they had received police notices as early as March, telling them to turn away people from Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Afghanistan.

    :pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:


    deeper than shit friendship

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  4. Indx TechStyle

    Indx TechStyle Perfaarmance Naarmal Senior Member

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    I don't blame them either.:p

    But we are well informed about that.:biggrin2:
    @Neo
     
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    Indx TechStyle Perfaarmance Naarmal Senior Member

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    Chinese Post..... Oops...
    I meant duplicate post...

    Deleted...
    :p
     
  6. aditya10r

    aditya10r PHAK MU LUCK Senior Member

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    Moreover twisted than fuck friendship
     
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    China: Hotels to BAN guests from Pakistan and 4 other Muslim countries

    Chinese police in Guangzhou city have ordered hostel operators to turn away guests from five countries, including Pakistan, until next month, a media report said on Friday.


    Hostels in various parts of the city have confirmed that local police asked them to turn away guests from Afghanistan, Turkey, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan starting from this week, the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post reported on Friday. The inclusion of Pakistan in the list came as a surprise considering its close "all weather ties" with China.


    Pakis not allowed.jpg


    The Guangzhou police move reportedly came ahead of the 11th Pan-Pearl River Delta Regional Cooperation and Development Forum being held in Guangzhou since Thursday while the G20 leaders’ summit will be hosted in the eastern Chinese city of Hangzhou on September 4-5.

    Asked about the move, Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said that “we never heard about such a policy being carried out in China”. “As for China, our policy is to encourage people to exchanges in China and other countries,” he said on Friday. Post quoted an official of a hostel as saying that “local police asked us to turn down guests from these five countries until September 10, without giving any reason.”

    A person at the front desk of a hostel in Yuexiu district acknowledged the measure by referring to a written notice. Similar responses were given at other hostels in different parts of Guangzhou, with some saying the ban would run up to October. However, the ban does not apply to five-star hotels like the Garden Hotel or White Swan, or even brand name budget hotels, it said.

    The ban has not been applied to hostels in other nearby cities including Foshan, Yiwu and Shenzhen, it said. Dr Peng Peng of the Guangzhou Academy of Social Sciences said the move was not announced to the public but was to reduce security risks at Guangzhou’s independent hostels.

    The move also suggested officials might be concerned about security if some Western state leaders decided to visit Guangzhou after the summit, he said.
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    Maulana Rockullah's Expert comment: : LOLWA... . So now China BANS Pakis in China.The so called "all weather" "deeper than sea, higher than mountain" friendship hits a wall.So even China the last friend of Pakis doesn't trust it anymore. Pakis have no friends left specially all of it's neighbor have blamed Pakis for supporting Terrorism. Shame on Pakistan... China slaps Pakis! :lol:

    @Abhijat @A chauhan @Alien @alphacentury @Ancient Indian @anupamsurey @Bharat Ek Khoj @blueblood @brational @Bangalorean @Blackwater @Bornubus @bose @cobra commando @DingDong @DFI_COAS @ersakthivel @fooLIam @gpawar @guru-dutt @hit&run @HariPrasad-1 @Indx TechStyle @jackprince @Kharavela @Illusive @I_PLAY_BAD @LETHALFORCE @Lions Of Punjab @maomao @Mad Indian @OneGrimPilgrim @Peter @piKacHHu @pmaitra @porky_kicker @Razor @raja696 @Rowdy @Sakal Gharelu Ustad @saty @sydsnyper @Srinivas_K @Screambowl @sorcerer @Simple_Guy @Sylex21 @wickedone @tarunraju @TrueSpirit2 @thethinker @vayuu1 @VIP @Vishwarupa @VIP @Varahamihira @roma @Navnit Kundu

    Our esteemed Terrorist Paki Panel: @Raja.pakistani @Zarvan @musalman @Zulfiqar Khan
    Kabhi to comment karo betas???

    Hai Allah... yeh kya ho gaya? :shock: It's a Pyar mei dhoka ... Even China knows that you are a terrorist and doesn't trusts you.China also blames Pakis for supporting terrorism in Western China.

    @Neo : In your words... yeh to baladkaar ho gaya. Pakis should blow themselves up in protest now and prove you are not terrorists. :rofl:
     
  8. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Pakistani terrorists attack India and kill scores of Indians. But when Indians hate them or refuse them the hospitality, they cry like anything as we Indians own them something. I mean the propriety they claim is quite desperate.

    But when China does the same they either become functionally mute or say we deserve it.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    A lot of Uighurs from the Turkestan movement have joined ISIS. Many of them have pilfered themselves through the difficult mountains into Pakistan (via PoGB), from where they were able to travel to join ISIS. PRC is aware of that. They don't want these ISIS to return. They also don't want their handlers to get accommodation in PRC. Their handlers are people from Turkey, Pakistan, the Serbian region of Kosovo and other countries. It is wise of PRC to put restrictions on travelers from certain regions. This is not about Pakistan alone. This is about Pakistan and several other countries.
     
  10. Navnit Kundu

    Navnit Kundu Pika Hu Akbarrr!! Senior Member

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    I think, the most straightforward way to rephrase it sans political correctness is : This is about Muslims.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    If that were the case, PRC would have banned people from Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, etc., as well.

    It is ok to be politically incorrect, but it is not ok to be incorrect.
     
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    Navnit Kundu Pika Hu Akbarrr!! Senior Member

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    China HAS taken steps with acrimonious undertones with all the other 'stans', just that it might not have manifested in the form of hotel bans, (or maybe it did, but didn't make headlines). I read several news within a span of the last 2 years about Chinese tantrums when India signed Uranium deal with K'stan* (in addition to training their military). I lost the link to the news articles which mentioned the tantrums but they were in the range of making snarky comments to other things. They are worried that India will use the Muslims of K'stan to infiltrate Xinxiang. Could it simply be a geopolitical co-incidence which has nothing to do with the religion of peace? NO, let me give a counter example. India signed many deals with Mongolia too. These range across a wide spectrum ranging from dairy products to military, defense co-production (Indian ambassador in Mongolia is kind of a Buddhist rockstar who attracts a lot of Mongolian people to his sermons at the Indian embassy, as mentioned by G Parthasarathy). In that sense, China should be worried, but they did not throw a tantrum with India making inroads in Mongolia. Case in point : NO ISLAM INVOLVED.

    China, like rest of the sane people in the world, understands that Muslims in particular have had a systemic, cultural affinity to the use of violence to achieve their political objectives. So, despite Indian presence in Mongolia, which is equally strategically located, China does not worry about it, as much as it worries about K'stan. If you do some A/B testing type comparison, all the variables in the two samples are exactly the same except for the variable of religion. China also has disproportionately crippling restrictions on Islamic schools, to the extent it does not have on other cultural seminaries linked to Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity. Sanskrit, Yoga and Bollywood are not only tolerated but have become a fad, but if you are a teacher of Arabic, Urdu, or any of the Islamic dance forms (like Qarsak) then you will be hounded. The anti-Muslim bias is too obvious to ignore by any objective standards.

    *India, Kazakhstan sign five key agreements

     
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    PRC has bullied some of the former Soviet -stans on border issues and has managed to get control of some amounts of territories. PRC is in the mood to gobble up as much territory as they can. Unfortunately, they have a very strong military and a powerful economy to back it up, so containment of PRC is going to be a daunting task.

    In any event, back the the topic, whatever I said about the hotel bans is speculation, but it is a fact that many Uighurs have indeed joined ISIS.
     
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    Chinese hotels are barring people from Pakistan? That's the biggest LOL I just had after reading it!

    [​IMG]

    No one wants to take risks with the Pakis even if it's a juice bomb!! :bplease:
     
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    Looks like weather has changed in China and Pakistan has old weather....... and great wall of China, become taller then mountain. So Pakistani were left behind without a friend.....:rofl:
     
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    And most of them got trained in ISI controlled pakistan.
    pakistan having a deeper than what chinese could handle worries china.
    The fantasy is becoming a real nightmare for china.
     
  17. Navnit Kundu

    Navnit Kundu Pika Hu Akbarrr!! Senior Member

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    The containment of China is a different ball game altogether, I'm not getting into that. It involves determinate factors like land, resources, weapons and troops. I am talking about indeterminate, ideological leanings of China. The limited point that I am making is that despite rubbing all its neighbors the wrong way, China has a distinctly incremental ideological aversion to Muslims that it doesn't have for its other adversaries. They see their relations with other adversaries from a very objective vantage point, as a clash for resources and influence, but DO NOT go to the extent of antagonizing and suffocating ideas from these foreign lands.

    So, China will do all it can to claim as much Indian territory, impede us in UN and NSG and all other hostile things, but it doesn't see the spread of Indic values in China as a threat to it. Yoga, Bollywood is not suppressed. Chinese semiconductor industry faces a serious challenge from Taiwan, but still, China does not antagonize Taiwanese tourists like it does the Turkmen. Chinese brands face stiff economic challenges from American consumer brands like iPhone, but still China does not see the popping up of American outlets in China as a threat and Americans aren't hounded. But set up on madrassa, just one, anywhere in China, or wear a skull cap and roam around and see how hard they come down. China does not see other people as being culturally aggressive or as infiltrating their Chinese sovereignty. But in case of Muslims, it treats that culture as an infiltrator which has nothing positive to offer.

    The point is, nations evaluate their relations based on interests and threats, but, only in case of Muslims, China has an additional layer of apprehension. After all, there are so many Sanskrit, Yoga and Dance teachers in China, it is quite plausible that RAW might be using some of them as conduits for intel gathering operations, but still China isn't paranoid about Indian presence in China as much as it is paranoid about Muslims (both indigenous and foreign).

    Long story short, China is convinced that Muslims = trouble.
     
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    Thanks for adding more (good) information @pmaitra

    If I am not wrong Guangzhou is at coastal region of China, close to economic hub Hong Kong. It is far away from Xinjiang (East Turkmenistan) which is close to Pakistan Occupied Kashmir 's northern most border with China.

    If they are specifically asking to ban Pakistanis (which hoteliers will ascertain after checking the passport) then they have asked to ban Pakistanis, no if and buts. Or if they have asked to distinguish between ISIS or non-ISIS then one can debate it further.

    Going by either logic the ban shows Pakistan in bad light because it is letting her territory used by elements that are causing harm to PRC interest.
     
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    LOL...pathetic Indian ...

    every couple days they would get to some kind of climax with stupid 'false' news about China ...hey... wake up ,open your eyes and mind to read this world. do not limit yourself in such a small realm and make yourself the laughing stock of this world again and again ...

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    the FM's daily regular press conference on 26th Aug...

    http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/web/fyrbt_673021/t1392170.shtml

    try your online translation tools plz...but the English version would be available on Monday...maybe some China lover should learn a little bit chinese as I suggested before...
     
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    Navnit Kundu Pika Hu Akbarrr!! Senior Member

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    Why is that? has the Chinese-to-English translation freelancer not been paid his daily wages of 50 cents today? Or do these 50 cent freelancers refuse to work on weekends? I'm impressed to see your strong work ethic, unlike others, since you are working even on a holiday. They must be paying you a lot more than others, I suppose, like 51 cents or 54 cents per post. You're one rich man!
     
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    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Pakistanis will milk China with their terror enterprise as they have screwed America with. They will create a problem then ask PRC to sit together and solve it. In a nut-shell more money will pour in Pakistan.

    They even want India to sit together; succumbing to their blackmail and do some give and take when they have no stakes whatsoever.

    India USA and then China are good study cases for Business schools, how Pakistan has used terror enterprise by escalating and fine tuning it to different levels and time periods to play great games and earn money or influence.
     
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