Chinese bribed top official to stall UN reforms?

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  1. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-to-stall-UN-reforms/articleshow/49498458.cms

    NEW DELHI: The arrest of former president of the UN General Assembly, John Ashe, on charges of bribery by the Chinese has vindicated India's suspicion that key top level officials in the UN system were being paid off to delay or scuttle the Security Council reform process, among other things.

    Earlier this month, Ashe, former envoy from Antigua & Barbuda was charged by US attorney Preet Bharara for accepting a bribe of $1.3 million from Chinese businessmen and officials for support for a multi-billion dollar "south south" UN-sponsored conference centre in casino capital Macau. Bharara's complaint also stated that other Chinese nationals paid Ashe hundreds of thousands of dollars to facilitate their businesses in Antigua. While only some of the details of the bribery processes have been made public, they are enough to provide a clue to the methods China uses to influence UN processes.

    For India, the more important part of the corruption charges against Ashe is the claim that the former GA president was reportedly paid to further Chinese interests. A part of this, they believe, has to do with influencing the progress of UN Security Council reform which China has steadfastly opposed. As president of UNGA between 2013-2014, Ashe started out by setting up an advisory body which drafted a 'non-paper' on the negotiations for UNSC reform. This, Indian officials say, was a simplified version of the 300-page draft negotiation document that was agreed to later in September 2015.

    India was an enthusiastic supporter of the 'non-paper' which they hoped would later become the draft text, because the advisory body was representative of the major world groups. However, mysteriously for Indians, Ashe backed out from making this the text at the last moment. This came as a blow to India's hopes, and it took a couple more years before the text was adopted. In a reprise, the last UNGA president Sam Kutesa, also wavered at the last moment, inserting paragraphs (inspired by China, say Indian officials) that would have dealt a big blow to the UN process. But this time the G4 and other countries prevailed on Kutesa, and the text went through.

    According to news reports on the Ashe case, Manhattan US attorney Preet Bharara, who announced the arrests of Ashe and the other defendants, said the investigation could result in more charges as authorities examine whether "corruption is business as usual at the United Nations." "If proven, today's charges will confirm that the cancer of corruption that plagues too many local and state governments infects the United Nations as well," Bharara said. Ashe, says the complaint, received more than $800,000 from Chinese businessmen to support their interests within the UN and Antigua,

    Stephane Dujarric, spokesperson for the UN was quoted as saying, UN secretary general Ban ki Moon "was shocked and deeply troubled to learn of the allegations, which go to the heart of the integrity of the UN," Dujarric said. "Corruption is not business as usual at the UN."

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  3. hit&run

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    They will do every thing to protect their interests. The important thing to note here is UN reforms will happen because many nations are supporting it.

    Lets not make it India vs china affair when we have majority at UN. India is not the only nations that is supporting reforms.

    As the world reorders it is in the interest of Asian nations to talk and remove the differences.

    West will always try to create differences among the Asian nations.
     
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    These Indians really have a super big ego.

    A Chinese tycoon from a Macau casino bribed the UNGA chairman from Antigua to target India in the so called reform? Why not claim it's aiming at sabotaging Japan or Germany to make the accusation more credible? Or is India indeed the epicenter of every event??

    There's nothing like Asian vs. the West collectively. Not only one version of UN reform nor India always part of the package.

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    A Chinese tycoon had also acquired an unfinished aircraft carrier from Ukraine to convert that into a casino.
     
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    Suspicion is not ego. Learn that first.
    China's biggest goal as far as UNSC reforms is Japan and India must not get permanent seats.
    It is widely known when China did not acknowledge India's UNSC aspirations. Nothing wrong in opposing.
    But it is the sick chinese circumcised girl's attitude to blanket that opposition with trade, co-operation and all bull shit. Openly oppose, what is stopping the great Chinese ?
     
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    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    suspicion or paranoia?

    who cares India or Japan? UN reform is a grand project beyond adding a few more permanent seats. How many votes have u galvanized in UNGA? forget otherwise the top brass i.e. P5 before u gather enough to make your case.

    that Chinese boss could have squandered his money for any purpose but India!

    ~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
     
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    Given how paranoid you sound, there should be some truth to the story!!
     
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    The above case is useful study of the PRC foreign policy ergonomics. It is not corruption and bribes and even trying to prevent India into unsc but PRC ergonomics.

    Another Example 1.1:
    A) pump up Argentina and support them on Falklands (explicitly)
    B) look UK in the eyes and fall in love and try look good
    C) cheers

    [​IMG]

    What happens next who cares ... not a big deal. UN reforms who cares it matters to no one. No consequences enjoy the drink.

    Is that poppy (opium) on suit ... Who cares !! Remembrance day is November 11. No consequence.

    Are those guns in the bbackground. Who cares.

    Whatever for meaning and reason. It doesn't matter and the region and world simply is inconsequential.
     
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    What Paranoia ?
    The Chinese seem to have it in tons looking at they way they cry around like a circumcised girl. You cry about Japan in UNSC, you cry about India in UNSC.
    Doesn't your description suit the Chinese more ?
    Moreover, UNSC is just a comfort or recognition which the G4 could get.
    Nothing more.....
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    @amoy Ok forget India for a while, but doesn't it prove that the so called Superpower China is pissed off at security council reforms ?
     
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    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    1) nobody thinks China is a superpower except u.

    2) UN is consisting of 170+ members, not China alone. everyone can have a say on its reform in line with self interest.

    ~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
     

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