Chinese ‘spy’ detained but deported without noise

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    The Chinese spies are quite activities.

    First, the report on the Indian side of the Nepal border and now this!

    And we 'quietly' deport the woman spy so as to not upset our 'testy' neighbour!!
     
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    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Phoenix is a popular media group among overseas Chinese. It's made lots of in-depth interviews /journalist coverage which official media of China is "inconvenient" to do, for example about N.Korea or militants of northern Myanmar minority, or Nepalese Maoists, or Nejad, or Musharraf, or George W Bush alike... Official media is supposed to toe the line or stay off sensitivities. But Phoenix may seem rather "neutral" and "objective" or outspoken.

    Its homepage (English): http://www.ifeng.com/phoenixtv/77405618595430400/index.shtml
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Journalist cover is also a good cover for spying since they can pretend to be interviewing!

    Old hat!

    What was the reason to go to Nagaland without permission and then have a 4 hour meeting with secessionists and that too of a person who does not give interviews.

    It is was that 'straight', why did she not take permission as is required for Chinese citizens going to Nagaland?

    What is this special 'love' for this journalist?
     
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    johnee Elite Member Elite Member

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    The spy has been deported back with packets of biryani. Next, his brother or sister will return and try their luck. At worst, they will get caught and deported back, otherwise they can brazenly go about their task to cultivate a network of anti-indian elements, collect critical data and relay the info back to the masters in Beijing.

    I wonder what would happen to an Indian spy caught in Tibet? Would he be deported back?
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    If an Indian spy was caught in Tibet, none will know.

    The Chinese will do a vanishing trick!
     
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    message deleted to piss everyone
     
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    This must be the most congenial regime, as far as memory can serve,towards foreign espionage.If any foreigner cannot bear the exorbitant return tickets, all they have to do is pretend to be a spy ans they shall be flying back gold class-all expenses paid.I wonder if the govt included the recently released 'political biography' of the congress party on board,you to while away time on the long flight back home.
     
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    Chinese Espionage

    Chinese Espionage









    No wonder their roots are deep in our system too.. :cool:
     
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    Then I am pissed off and all over .......................... *** . :D
     
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    ^^^ Here's her story

    The mysterious case and photos of Qing Wang

    Report: Indian Express

     
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    Nice Bro..... I like your sense of humor.
     
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    Sir, it might be the case where our Intelligence agencies would be on a larger hunt than this stuff shows.

    Let her free and trace her, till bigger fishes are in the grab.

    The chinese are in some sort of a larger thing in North-East, Now the karmapa thing has popped up.
     
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    The mysterious case and photos of Qing Wang

    Photographs retrieved from a Macbook laptop belonging to a Chinese national have left the Government befuddled about her intentions.



    Qing Wang, a 38-year-old Chinese national, was passing herself as both a timber sales representative and TV journalist. Her pictures show her “interest” in insurgent movements in South Asia particularly NSCN-IM in Nagaland, Kachin Independence Army in Myanmar and Maoist rebels in Nepal.



    On January 21, Indian Immigration authorities sent back Qing on board Chinese Eastern Airlines flight CZ 360 from IGI Airport and deported the Beijing resident to Guangzhou. This happened when she was caught in Dimapur without the mandatory Restricted Area Permit.



    While Qing was given a tourist visa (No. AH-228250) on her passport (No. G45343709) to visit New Delhi, Jaipur, Mumbai and Bangalore from December 17, 2010 to January 25, 2011, she “strayed” to Nagaland after meeting NSCN-IM general secretary Th. Muivah for four hours in Delhi.



    Qing was questioned for nearly 36 hours by security agencies at IGI Airport and was allowed to leave after she “evaded” all questions. Sources said that Qing, resident of F 1910-1912, Tower C, Beijing Global Trade Centre, No 36, North Third Ring Road, East Dongcheng district, Beijing, was deported as she was suspected to be a “non official cover agent.”



    Her visa application said that she was working as Department Manager in the Trade Department of Beijing Xuanwei Timber Industry Company Limited in Dongcheng. However, she passed herself as a journalist and took the Brahmaputra Mail on January 15-16, 2011, to Dimapur along with other Naga youths.


    A background check on Qing found that she had travelled to India thrice: from December 27, 2009 to January 23, 2010; from August 11, 2010 to August 23, 2010 and her trip this month.



    During her last trip in August 2010, Qing made her first acquaintance with Muivah in Delhi and visited the NSCN-IM Camp Hebron at Manglamukh as well as a camp in Kohima. This time, she had a long meeting with Muivah and then went to Camp Hebron where she was caught by Dimapur police and flown to Delhi.
    What intrigued authorities is that Qing travelled to India in August 2010 on a separate passport (No G 16555721) with similar identity details and landed up at Kolkata from Kunming in Yunnan province.


    The NSCN-IM has a presence in Kunming with their chief arms supplier Anthony Shimray, now under arrest, travelling to China no less than six times since 1994.



    “Her keen interest in Naga insurgency and her extra-cautious measures in movements raised doubts about her stated official position and indicated that she had links with Chinese intelligence,” a senior official said.
    Qing’s laptop revealed photographs with Muivah in Delhi, with Maoist supremo Prachanda aka Pushpa Kumar Dahal in Nepal, in a purported PLA camp in Nepal and a Kachin insurgent camp in Myanmar. It is suspected that Qing was in touch with some of these groups.


    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-mysterious-case-and-photos-of-qing-wang/743703/1
     
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    Missile spy’ slur on Northeast rebels

    New Delhi, Jan. 30: Alleged Chinese spy Wang Qing was allowed to leave India despite evidence that Beijing had tasked Northeast insurgents to get information on India’s long-range missile installations, intelligence sources have told The Telegraph.They said that since early 2010, the government had known that China had extended its northeastern militant links far beyond traditional ally NSCN-IM and was training several of these outfits.
    In September, the government learnt that Manipur’s United National Liberation Front (UNLF) had been asked to gather intelligence about Indian long-range missiles that are directed towards China, the sources said.This apparently came out from an examination of the laptop of Ningombam Dilip alias Ibochou, an UNLF leader who was arrested in Guwahati on September 7.

    This was around the time that top leaders from the National Socialist Council of Nagalim (Isak-Muivah), Ulfa, UNLF and at least two other Northeast outfits had attended a meeting in China’s Guangzhou, the sources said.Shortly before that, Wang had allegedly visited India and travelled illegally to Nagaland. She then repeated her visit this month and was caught in Dimapur, Nagaland, on January 18.

    India issued a demarche to Beijing last week after deporting Wang on January 21 and expressing “displeasure” to China the next day. That she was not arrested and was let off within three days reflects New Delhi’s reluctance to precipitate matters with Beijing.The sources cited several instances of China’s increased help to Indian militants:Ulfa chairman Paresh Barua apparently relocated to China’s Yunnan province in April 2009;​


    A top Naga leader met a retired Chinese general named Lee at a hotel in Kunming, Yunnan, in the first week of May 2009;​
    A UNLF leader, Lancha, met Chinese officials at Ruili in Yunnan;Beijing helped Ulfa establish a camp at Laiza in Myanmar’s Kachin in March last year, and later advised it to relocate 100 cadres from western to eastern Kachin.

    The NSCN (Khaplang), UNLF, Manipur’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) and several other Manipuri and Naga militant groups have opened bases and training camps in the northern Myanmar jungles with Chinese support, the sources said.​

    Filling a ‘gap’
    Beijing’s increased support for the rebels was apparently prompted by the change of government in Dhaka.Beijing’s ties with the northeastern rebels have depended on China’s evaluation of the strength and grit of the people in power in Delhi, and the viability and reliability of the insurgent groups,” former Intelligence Bureau director Ajit Doval said.

    “Whenever assistance from Bangladesh to the Northeast insurgents became difficult, the Chinese stepped in to fill the gap.”​
    Since the Sheikh Hasina government is becoming increasingly intolerant of Indian insurgents, their friendship with Beijing can only be expected to flourish, Doval said.

    UNLF chief Raj Kumar Meghen alias Sanayaima, detained by Dhaka in October and handed over to India in November, has revealed that his Myanmar-based aide, N. Birjit, was in regular touch with the Chinese embassy in Yangon, the sources said.They added that the arrest of NSCN-IM leader Anthony Shimray from Nepal had thrown light on how Chinese agencies had been providing arms and ammunition to Indian rebels.Wang, 39, had arrived in Delhi on January 1 posing as an employee of a Chinese timber company but, allegedly, later met Naga militant leader Muivah in the guise of a Hong Kong-based TV reporter. The NSCN-IM, which is in talks with the Centre, has denied any such meeting.​
    Wang is said to have travelled without permission to Nagaland under an assumed name and visited the NSCN-IM headquarters in Hebron.

    http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110131/jsp/nation/story_13514502.jsp
     
  17. gogbot

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    I don't get it why release after interrogation.

    And Why would China take her back , no nation would accept a spy being returned as it would be an acceptance of guilt in their participation
     
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    Can you tell us what this woman was doing with Muivah? You do know that these guys are wanted hardcore terrorists in our country don't you? Which means not a lot of reporters are exactly permitted to go around meeting these lunatics and this is especially for foreign journalists. Heck.. even Indian journalists don't dare to go and meet these cut-throat loonies.

    Then what clarification other than being a reporter does the fine woman have? :spy:
     
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    The Outlook Magazine has published this excellent report regarding China's meddling in India's North-East Affairs. An absorbing read....

    The Great Claw of China


    The confessions of NSCN(IM) leader Anthony Shimray show exactly how China is fuelling India’s northeastern insurgencies

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    Wooing NSCN (IM)

    China agrees to host a permanent representative of the NSCN (IM) from 2008
    The outfit is asked to spy on Indian troops in Arunachal Pradesh and the Dalai Lama
    Pakistan’s ISI also contacts NSCN (IM) and asks it to break the ceasefire with India
    NSCN (IM)’s firepower grows significantly during the ceasefire with India that began in 1995
    For decades, India and China have played a cat-and-mouse game, full of intrigue and suspense. Even while New Delhi is trying to find ways around vexatious border issues or making occasional noises about stapled visas, Beijing has been secretly supporting, advising and arming major insurgent outfits in India’s troubled Northeast and the Maoist belt. Unlike the noise and heat the Indo-Pak relationship generates, Indian diplomats maintain a studied silence when it comes to the Chinese hand in the Northeast or arms from across the border reaching Maoists in central India.

    In the last three months, however, the Chinese hand in the Northeast has been revealed in great detail. In the early hours of October 2 last year, Indian intelligence officials, along with their counterparts in the National Investigation Agency, accosted a tall, hefty man waiting outside the Patna railway station. The quarry was Anthony Shimray, a key official of the National Socialist Council of Nagalim (Isak-Muivah) faction or NSCN(IM), the biggest insurgent outfit in the Northeast. Not only is Shimray a powerful member of the NSCN(IM)’s top leadership, he is also the nephew of its general secretary, T. Muivah, currently in New Delhi for peace talks with the Centre. As the chief arms procurer for the outfit, Shimray also has first-hand information on Chinese efforts to support insurgencies.

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    Shimray: Tailed and Nabbed

    Shimray’s early morning arrest was the culmination of a meticulous operation conducted by India’s external intelligence agency RAW in the preceding weeks. They had managed to track down Shimray in the middle of September. He was operating out of Bangkok, a haven for arms dealers, insurgents and intelligence agencies. It was to be a tricky call: Shimray could not be nabbed in a foreign land, and there was considerable debate within the government on picking him up since this was in the midst of a dialogue with NSCN(IM). Finally, with clearance, intelligence officials had a stroke of luck.

    By the end of September, the sleuths had gathered from their sources that Shimray would need to travel from Thailand to get his visa renewed and visit his cadres in Manipur and Nagaland. Quietly, they managed to procure his travel details to Nepal and began to monitor his exit from Bangkok. Shimray took a Royal Nepal Airlines flight to Kathmandu in the early hours of September 27 and proceeded by road to quietly slip across the Indian border into Bihar. From here, he was to proceed by rail to the Northeast but he was arrested before that.

    His subsequent interrogation has been detailed in a 100-page report, accessed exclusively by Outlook. It throws up several startling truths about the Chinese hand in Indian insurgencies. While Shimray speaks at length about NSCN(IM), he also reveals China’s links with ULFA and the National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) in Assam and the United National Liberation Front in Manipur. Here are Shimray’s key revelations:

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    Paresh Barua at an ULFA training camp near China-Myanmar border. (Photograph by U B Photos, From Outlook, February 07, 2011)

    Chinese Arms for the Northeast

    Even as recently as September 25, 2010, Shimray was procuring arms and had held further talks with his middleman in Bangkok, Willy Narue. One consignment being negotiated was for Arunachal Pradesh. He even asked the suppliers if they could deliver in the “upper part of Arunachal from the Chinese side”. Investigators feel Shimray’s covert October trip to India may have been tied to the arms deals.

    Shimray also told his interrogators how he procured arms from the Chinese in late 2007. “It was decided by our leadership stationed in New Delhi to strengthen the weaponry of the organisation,” he reveals. With Narue’s help, he contacted Yuthuna, a Chinese representative of TCL in Bangkok, TCL being the “authorised subsidiary of the Chinese arms company China Xinshidai, Beijing”. On its website, Xinshidai is described as dealing in the import and export of specialised products by China’s defence industries.

    The final shopping list included 600 AK series rifles, nearly 6 lakh ammunition rounds, 200 sub-machine guns, pistols, rocket launchers, light machine guns and 200 kg of RDX. The deal was worth $1.2 million, with an additional $1 million for shipment from China. The consignment was sent through a shipping agent in Kittichai of Bangkok-based Intermarine Shipping. It was to be “loaded from Beihei, a south Chinese port. The destination was Cox’s Bazaar”, a major landing station on the Bangladesh coast. “All the correspondence with Willy Narue, our leadership in New Delhi, Nagaland and others in Thailand and China,” Shimray says, “was made on e-mail to maintain the secrecy of the entire project.” The information was saved as a draft and accessed by Chinese intelligence using Shimray’s password.

    Shimray also recalled his visit to China in 1994 for a joint arms deal for NDFB. The “procurement of the arms and ammunition” was “made from the Chinese company NORINCO”. This consignment included “1,800 pieces of arms and one lakh rounds, which included AK series rifles, M16 automatic assault rifles, machine guns, sniper rifles, rocket launchers and pistols”. The money came from a Naga businessman using Calcutta-based hawala operators.

    Again, in 1996, “arms and ammunition were brought from Beijing to Cox’s Bazaar in a North Korean ship”. After the consignment was unloaded in small boats on the high seas and transferred in trucks to NSCN(IM) camps in Bangladesh, it travelled to the Northeast.

    China Hosts Permanent Representative of NSCN(IM)

    In another significant revelation, Shimray details how China’s relationship with the NSCN(IM) was strengthened in 2008 when it agreed to host their permanent representative. The year also seems to have been a watershed moment in the NSCN(IM)’s relationship with China and its renewed efforts to arm itself. And ironically, in the midst of a 15-year-dialogue it has been having with New Delhi.

    According to Shimray, in a letter from ‘Prime Minister’ Muivah addressed to senior Chinese intelligence officials, Kholose Swu Sumi, a 60-year-old member of the Sema tribe in the Zunheboto district of Nagaland, was appointed as the permanent representative of the NSCN(IM) in China. Kholose’s acceptance by the Chinese was an official acknowledgement of a formal relationship with the NSCN(IM). Kholose was promoted to the rank of a colonel and asked to interface with the Chinese. “His main job was to update the Chinese authorities about the development of peace talks and the activities of the Indian army and to pass on the response of the Chinese authorities to the collective leadership of NSCN(IM),” says the interrogation report recording Shimray’s confessions.

    Kholose, who ran a business in precious stones, received Shimray and his wife at Kunming airport (Yunnan province, southeastern China) on a visit and introduced him to several Chinese intelligence officials. “He introduced me to Mr Chang, head of intelligence of the region in Dehong Mangshi,” Shimray told his interrogators. “Mr Lee Wuen, head of intelligence of Yunnan province, was also introduced to me. I gave them the message of our leadership, that NSCN(IM) wanted their assistance and cooperation.”

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    Suspicious lensmen Chinese nationals arrested by the UP police in January

    Forging Military Cooperation and Spying on India

    Shimray also talks of a visit to China in the summer of 2009. This time, he accompanied his ‘President’, Isak Chisi Swu. “The visa for the visit,” says Shimray, “was arranged by the Chinese intelligence authorities at the Chinese embassy in the Philippines.” The trip helped the NSCN(IM) leadership forge “military cooperation” with the Chinese. But, “in lieu of extending military cooperation,” says Shimray, the NSCN(IM) was to “give information on the movement and activities of the Dalai Lama in India and the movement and facilities of (the) Indian army in Arunachal Pradesh”.

    NSCN(IM) cadres in the border district of Tirap in Arunachal Pradesh began to immediately monitor Indian troop movements. Shimray contacted a Naga journalist in Delhi, paid her Rs 80,000, and persuaded her to travel to Dharamsala, the headquarters of the Dalai Lama, to gather intelligence. “For getting information on the movements and activities of the army in Arunachal Pradesh, we collected the information through our cadres in Tirap district and our New Delhi office,” Shimray told the investigators. “I passed on this information to an official of the Chinese intelligence agency.”
    In his reports to Chinese intelligence, Shimray would use code words such as “Awo” to designate China and “Mayang” for India. He also conveyed the information using the e-mail id angel3phi@ yahoo.com, which would be accessed by a Chinese intelligence officer using the same password. While Shimray was in constant touch with the Chinese, other senior NSCN leaders such as ‘deputy minister’ Kehoi too were making contacts with Chinese authorities. In addition, NSCN(IM) commander-in-chief V.S. Atem also had some Chinese contacts.

    Interestingly, the Uttar Pradesh police arrested three Chinese citizens in January who had illegally crossed into India and were found photographing border check-posts. In the same month, a 39-year-old Chinese woman, Wang Qing, was arrested and deported after she illegally travelled to Nagaland and also met Muivah. She was reported to be from the People’s Security Bureau, the Chinese intelligence agency.

    ISI Links

    In a subsequent interrogation, Shimray also gives interesting insights into his relationship with Pakistan’s ISI which tried to engage with the northeastern insurgents on several occasions. The NSCN(IM) leadership was received by “the Pakistani intelligence officials” in Karachi way back in 2001 even as the NSCN(IM) was negotiating peace with New Delhi. In 2008, an ISI agent working under the pseudonym of “Mr Rex” and stationed in Bangladesh visited the NSCN(IM) leadership in Bangkok and offered “financial help as well as military training” if the Nagas broke the ceasefire with India.

    It is, however, the China factor that continues to be a major irritant for New Delhi even as peace talks continue with the Nagas. It has already expressed its displeasure at China’s stapled visas to Kashmiris and Arunachalis, its denial of a visa to an Indian army general and its efforts to arm and support the insurgency in the Northeast. The balance of power between the elephant and the dragon, it seems, will continue to oscillate before it can stabilise.

    Special Report: Outlook India
     
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