China's top Xinjiang official vows "terrorist" crackdown

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    China is the only country that calls a terrorist a terrorist and gets their man.

    No fooling with the Chinese and other silly Pollyanna nonsense or political correctness.
     
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    This is a clear indication that the Chinese are not going to accept all this nonsense. They have now shed all their charade and are getting into business to sort out the terrorists.
     
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    This is from a Muslim site and so the authenticity cannot be questioned.

    If they do not allow such important Islamic ritual, they are only feeding fat to the fire.

    This is where China is making a mistake.
     
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    It is one thing to go hard at terrorists and it is another to prevent people from undergoing their religious rites!
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    Do you think Uncle Sam will be lenient and turn a blind eye towards Xinjiang Uigur terrorists, while wanting anti west terrorist dead? I think there is a possibility they would over look these guys and perhaps even use them against China just like it used it against USSR.
     
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    What about the theory that it is sponsored by the US to keep China on the hop and make China spend good money on anti terrorism equipment and enhance their police force, losing more money through pay and hard area allowances?

    After all, the Uighur rebel leader is US based!

    And to add to it, the new Tibetan PM is also from the US!!

    Uighurs are not in Russia, or are they?
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    The murky world of espionage is not quite far away from our conspiracy theories and paranoiad assumptions. Its quite possible CIA is supporting them but that also raises the question would they risk such an game with China particularly when US has its hands full in Afghanistan and does not want China to enter the fray and support those terrorist against US. I am sure if China spots an US hand in Uighur attacks then China may support the taliban in response.
     
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    How much does it take to assist a terrorist group?

    Pakistan has more of a handful than the US and with a totally failing economy that requires Saudi money to push its Budget.

    If Pakistan can sponsor terrorism the world over and India in particular, can the US not?

    One wonders if one could directly pinpoint as to who is sponsoring the Uighur terrorists.

    That the base is in Pakistan, even China has now officially been declared through their official in Kashgar and by both their official mouthpieces, the Xinhui and Global Times, who have endorsed the same.
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    Right now i dont suspect anything more than US turning a blind eye towards them, i dont see the US risking an all out conflict with China supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan and emboldening Chinas ally Pakistan to fight US.
     
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    How will it lead to an all out conflict with China, when one cannot pinpoint it to the US?

    China had supported the Mujahideens in the fight against the USSR (Brig Yousaf's [of the ISI responsible for the Mujahideen and Afghanistan] book Bear Trap maybe read).

    Can anyone say they are not supporting the Taliban?

    Pakistan fighting the US?

    US is their lifeline.

    They (Pakistan) will die with financial asphyxiation if US economic help to include WB and IMF is taken away.

    Inspite of Pakistan's big talk, they have sold themselves to the US and is actually a vassal state.
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    I have heard no news of it, like weapons supplied from China used against US or Vice Versa..
     
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    Buy the book, Bear Trap by Brig Yousaf of the ISI and you will know.

    Also Cooley's Unholy War. It is said to be one of the best on the Afghan War against the Soviets!
     
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    Theoretically u may say Ramadan / fasting is all abt religion, but in the real life how would u tell 'rites' apart from politics/separatism/terrorism, say, in case a "Mullah" in a "religious" gathering calls for a Jihad against infidels??

    Chinese and CCP are incredulous of that "religious" veneer and have learnt lots of lessons from the History
    - Insurrections mobilized in the faith/'gospel' of "Buddha Maitreya" finally overthrew Yuan Dynasty. On that basis Ming Dynasty was founded
    - Taiping Tianguo (Heaven) under "Christianity" shook Qing Dynasty by capturing almost a half of China
    - And the Boxing Movement in the form of indigenous faiths, against foreign aggressors

    Now Islam...
     
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    Although I get your drift, but would love to see you complete your statement "Now Islam ..." so I could rub it into some Pakistani friend. :D
    Jokes apart, we have a thriving muslim population, one of the largest in any of the countries. Don't know why CHINA are so jumping paranoid when we aren't.
    Going by the inference above, we would've been consumed by an Islamic holocaust long before.

    Regards,
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    What can I say? Day dreaming? If you Indian can focus more on get your own things done, India would have been a ok country by now.
     
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    China’s Muslim Uyghurs Forbidden to Fast During Ramadan

    China’s Muslim Uyghurs Forbidden to Fast During Ramadan


    Chinese authorities in Xinjiang Province have issued a notice that any Uyghur cadres or workers found not eating lunch during Ramadan could lose their jobs.

    It is part of the campaign of local authorities in Xinjiang, home to the Muslim Uyghur ethnic group, to force the Uyghur people to give up their religious rituals during the fasting month of Ramadan.

    Ramadan is a holy month in the Islamic calendar, which begun this year on Aug. 22. It requires not eating during the daytime.

    “Free lunches, tea, and coffee—that authorities are calling ‘Care from the government’ or ‘Living allowance’—are being offered in government departments and companies. But it is actually a ploy used to find out who is fasting,” said Dilxat Raxit, World Uyghur Congress spokesman, speaking to The Epoch Times.

    According to Dilxat, Uyghur Communist Party cadres throughout Xinjiang had been forced to sign “letters of responsibility” promising to avoid fasting and other religious activities. They are also responsible for enforcing the policy in their assigned areas, and face punishment if anyone in these areas fasts.

    For the first time, Dilxat said, the crackdown has extended to retired Communist Party members. Current cadres are required to visit them to prevent them from participating in the fast. If anyone violates the ban, local leaders will be held responsible and severely punished, he said.

    Muslim restaurant owners are forced to sign a document to remain open and continue selling alcohol during Ramadan or have their licenses revoked, he said.

    Uyghurs arrested during the July riots in Urumqi are also prohibited from fasting; those who insist on fasting will be force fed food and water while enduring insults for their misbehavior, he said in the interview.

    Monks in mosques are forced to preach to others that fasting is a “feudal activity” and harmful to health, said Dilxat. Otherwise, their religious certification will be cancelled.

    When asked about Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leader Hu Jintao’s recent visit to Xinjiang, Dilxat said: “Xinjiang’s situation has not yet returned to normal. Rather than asking the local Han people to respect the religion and culture of Uyghur people, Hu encouraged the use of military troops to suppress and further restrict our religious freedom. The communist regime often talks about ‘maintaining stability,’ but what they do is always different from what they say. They are actually the ones who are destroying stability.”

    An Epoch Times reporter contacted the CCP’s State Ethnic Affairs Commission to see whether the restrictions claimed by Dilxat were official, or what the official stance on Ramadan was. The media contact wouldn’t speak on the subject, instead giving two numbers in Xinjiang that he said the reporter would be able to call to find out more. Both numbers were continually busy, and when the reporter called the State Ethnic Affairs Commission back, the man hung up.
     
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    Actually some Uigurs/Uzbek Chinese Talibans were arrested in Afghanistan and were thrown into Guantanamo jail. China asked for repatriation for trials. But the US refused. Finally they were settled in a South Pacific state. Google for it pls

    hey, We Chinese often talk about 'face', with idioms like saving face, giving face... So do Indians love to cover up their skeletons in the cupboard for face saving?

    Indian communal violence is well known, and Kashmir... A thriving Muslim population? In a cyber world everything gets transparent.


    No offense to Islam... But we Chinese know it all too well how terrorists flag their 'cause' under a religion.

    Pakistan? No clues in Hotan or Kashgar lead to a state-sponsored terrorism. Indian psyops won't upset the faith in Sino-Pak partnership, which is time-tested but not religion based
     
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    Does China have more influence in Pakistan then USA?? Yes or No answer are both positive for India.
     
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    It really does, doesn't it?

    http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/hr_facts.html

    Well yeah, National Census is a better source for such info than some sad-ass Pakistani website.
    Muslim population actually increased in India in the past 50 years..even in percentage.

    Old?
    Perhaps
    Time-tested?
    Hardly.

    Where were you in 1971?
    1984?
    Kargil?

    Oh and don't worry about the religion thingy, the Pakistanis will take care of that.
     
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    Fundemental islam and pork eating kafirs don't mix.
     
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