China's territory not allowed for sale: FM spokesman

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    China's territory not allowed for sale: FM spokesman

    BEIJING - China's holy territory is not allowed "to be purchased" by anyone, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said Saturday.

    Spokesman Liu Weimin made the remarks after Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda admitted his government was negotiating with a "private owner" to "nationalize" part of the "Senkaku Islands" (China's Diaoyu Islands).

    "The Chinese government will continue to take necessary measures to resolutely safeguard the sovereign rights of the Diaoyu Islands and adjacent islets," Liu said.

    "The Diaoyu Islands and their adjacent islets have been inherent parts of Chinese territory since ancient times, and China has indisputable historical and jurisprudential evidence for this," said the spokesman.

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    Diaoyu landing 'violates sovereignty'
    Updated: 2012-07-07 07:36


    The Foreign Ministry said on Friday that the landing of two Japanese citizens on the Diaoyu Islands has seriously violated China's territorial sovereignty.
    A Japanese coast guard official said on Friday that two Japanese nationals landed on the islands on Thursday, despite warnings from the coast guard to stay away.
    "Despite our warnings, they dived into the sea from a fishing boat and reached the islands," the official said, adding that the two stayed for 90 minutes before leaving.
    Media reports said the two Japanese right-wing activists went ashore on Beixiaodao, an islet of the Diaoyu Islands.
    One of the two people who landed on the islands was Hitoshi Nakama, a local politician from Ishigaki, Okinawa. He also landed on the islands in January.
    The case is under investigation by both the coast guard and police, the official said.
    "The illegal acts of the Japanese right-wingers have seriously violated China's territorial sovereignty. China has lodged a solemn representation and protest to the Japanese side," Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin said at the ministry's regular news conference.
    "The Diaoyu Islands and its affiliated islands have been Chinese territory since ancient times and China has indisputable sovereignty over the islands," Liu said.
    The incident came one day after Taiwan vessels tangled with Japanese patrol ships in waters close to the islands and left a Chinese national flag on waters 10 meters from the shore.
    "The Japanese move should be seen as a reaction to the visit of Taiwan vessels to the Diaoyu Islands," said Zhou Yongsheng, a professor of Japanese studies at China Foreign Affairs University in Beijing.
    Ties between Beijing and Tokyo were tested in the autumn of 2010 when a Chinese trawler collided with patrol boats from the Japanese coast guard in waters near the islands. China later froze bilateral high-level exchanges, including some military ones.
    The hostility was re-ignited again this year when Governor of Tokyo Shintaro Ishihara said in April that his city prefecture was negotiating with the "owner" of the islands in the hope of "buying them by the end of this year" and started raising money for the proposal.
    Also on Friday, Ishigaki Mayor Yoshitaka Nakayama visited Tokyo to meet Ishihara and sent the governor documents, including data on the local ecological system of the islands, expecting him to "make full use" of the materials to claim them.
    "Apparently Nakama's deeds were well arranged and he has acted in concert with the mayor," Zhou said.
    Former high-level military officers and prominent scholars from China and Japan earlier this week called on Beijing and Tokyo to stop the "endless" dispute over the islands at a non-governmental meeting on bilateral ties.
    The Foreign Ministry on Friday also responded to reports that the Republic of Korea has postponed the submission of a claim to an extended portion of continental shelf in the East China Sea to a United Nations commission until sometime "within this year".
    The ROK is expected to claim that the Korean Peninsula's naturally extended continental shelf stretches to the Okinawa Trough in the East China Sea, a move deemed certain to rekindle a territorial dispute with Japan and China over the extent of their respective exclusive economic zones.
    "China's claim in the East China Sea is clear and consistent, and the Republic of Korea is clear about that," Liu said.
    "As for the disputes in the waters, the Chinese side would like to have them settled through negotiations with concerned countries."

    Diaoyu landing 'violates sovereignty'|World|chinadaily.com.cn
     
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    Experts call for an end to dispute over islands
    Updated: 2012-07-03 02:46


    Former high-level military officers and prominent scholars from China and Japan have called on Beijing and Tokyo to stop the "endless" dispute over the Diaoyu Islands that is muddying relations between the world's second- and third-largest economies.

    "Don't talk anymore about who owns the islands ... We should prevent military collisions at sea, set up hot lines and build mutual trust," former Japanese defense minister Shigeru Ishiba said at the sub-conference for security affairs at the eighth Beijing-Tokyo Forum on Monday.
    The former minister also suggested the Japanese government send the Japanese Coast Guard, not the Japan Self-Defense Forces, to handle possible accidents in the disputed waters.
    The meeting brought together some of the most famous former military officers and scholars on security affairs from both sides of China-Japan studies.
    Fierce discussion on the territorial dispute over the Diaoyu Islands dominated the four-hour meeting.

    The conference room was packed with public and media.

    Ties between Beijing and Tokyo were tested in the autumn of 2010 when a Chinese trawler collided with patrol boats from the Japanese Coast Guard in waters near the Diaoyu Islands. China later froze bilateral high-level exchanges and some military ones.
    The hostility was reignited again this year when the governor of Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara, said in April that his city prefecture was negotiating with the "owner" of the islands in the hope of "buying them by the end of this year" and started raising money for the proposal.

    An annual survey on China-Japan relations sponsored by China Daily and Japan's Genron NPO found last month that the confrontation over the Diaoyu Islands is among the top three reasons behind Chinese and Japanese people's negative feelings toward each other.

    "Some international issues are being domesticated now," said Huang Xingyuan, secretary-general of the Chinese People's Institute of Foreign Affairs, referring to Ishihara actions.

    "We should not allow some right-wing figures who tried to play up the issue to dominate and kidnap China-Japan relations," Huang said. He suggested the two nations skip over the sensitive issue while they have still not figured out a solution.
    Li Wei, head of the Institute of Japanese Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said the key problem was that Japan does not even admit the existence of the territorial dispute on the Diaoyu Islands.

    "We should have dialogue on that, though I cannot predict the outcome. Still, I believe we have many solutions to try. Mr Deng Xiaoping (late Chinese leader) said 40 years ago that we should leave the problem to the next generation who will have greater wisdom. We should believe in our next generation that they will have the wisdom to settle the problem," said Kazuhiko Togo, director of the Institute for World Affairs at Kyoto Sangyo University.
    Rear Admiral Yang Yi, former director of the Institute for Strategic Studies at the People's Liberation Army National Defense University, said he was glad that none of the guests supported resorting to military power.

    "It would be a disaster to both sides and should be ruled off the table," Yang said, adding he is worried about accidental conflicts in the disputed waters. He suggested both sides act to control the situation immediately if such an incident came to pass.

    "China and Japan are two civilizations that have interacted with each other for several thousand years. Who can imagine France and Germany, which fought with each other 50 years ago, are now the two engines of the integration of Europe? It is possible that China and Japan will also be the two engines of an 'Asian Union' in another 50 years and by then there will be no need to identify the territory."

    Noboru Yamaguchi, a professor at the National Defense Academy of Japan, said the Japanese government should strictly control its citizens stepping on the islands to avoid inflaming the situation.

    Other methods the experts suggested to control risks ranged from establishing a buffer zone in the waters and joint patrols, to direct contact between maritime law enforcement agencies and dialogue between the two armed forces.

    "And we should think about joint exploration of the region if possible. One day politicians of the two nations will have the courage to do that," said Wu Jinan, a senior researcher with the Shanghai Institute for International Studies.

    Experts call for an end to dispute over islands|Politics|chinadaily.com.cn
     
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    Beijing protests over Japan's island survey
    Updated: 2012-06-26 19:57


    Beijing has lodged solemn representation to Tokyo over Japanese local lawmakers' activities in the waters off Diaoyu Island, the Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday.

    Reports said eight Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly members departed on Monday night to conduct a so-called "survey" in waters off Diaoyu Island.

    "China has lodged solemn representations with Japan, demanding Japan to stop creating new disturbances and safeguard the overall interest of China-Japan relations with concrete actions," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said at a daily news conference on Tuesday.

    Hong reiterated that Diaoyu Island and its affiliated islands have been a part of China's inherent territory since ancient times, and China has indisputable sovereignty over them. "Any unilateral move taken by Japan over Diaoyu Island is illegal and invalid," he said.

    Beijing protests over Japan's island survey|Asia-Pacific|chinadaily.com.cn
     
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    China's holy territory? Chinese foreign ministry spokeperson are amusing!

    And this is were it stops sounding funny!
     
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    The Senkaku Islands (尖閣諸島 Senkaku Shotō?, variants: Senkaku-guntō[1] and Senkaku-rettō[2]), also known as the Diaoyu Islands or Diaoyutai Islands (simplified Chinese: 钓鱼岛及其附属岛屿; traditional Chinese: 釣魚台群島; pinyin: Diàoyútái Qúndǎo) or the Pinnacle Islands, are a group of uninhabited islands controlled by Japan in the East China Sea. They are located roughly due east of mainland China, northeast of Taiwan, west of Okinawa Island, and north of the southwestern end of the Ryukyu Islands.
     
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    China seems to feel that everything in the world belongs to China!

    And claims on fudged fairy tales that they have made up about their so called history!
     
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    nope they just claim the island and SCS. even korean has claim dispute with japan.
     
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    Claim based on fairy takes and grandma's stories!
     
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    not fairy stories if you know chinese history, the island as well as taiwan was taken during sino-japan war in 1891 and later on respectively. before that it was part of china since ming&qing dynasty. S.korean has similar issue with japan, some of their claim island was part of korea before 1931.
     
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    By your rationale, Tibet was taken during the 1952 China-Tibet war and hence should be free?
     
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    well i'm not claiming the island belong to china but the reason why china/korea claim it. as far as tibet goes, you can tell china that. and by your logic most american should leave too and give the land back to native american.
    furthermore these island are uninhabited so make the claim easier. if japanese were living on these island for several decades, then china/korea claim become much harder.
     
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    Unlike uninhabited Diaoyu Island, S. Korea actually moved residents onto Dokdo island in dispute with Japan Liancourt Rocks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in order to perpetuate their occupation. By holding the islet S. Korea claims 200NM EEZ on that basis.

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    China is not alone in vying for holy islands? :thumb:
     
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    Senkaku Islands dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    1909: Japanese population of the islands became 248."[65][48]
     
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    Japan simply has some people's Hukou / Hoseki (residence) registered as Senkaku, to assert its claim. Even in the link provided it's stated
    Even the whole Ryukyu (Okinawa) is disputable as part of Japan. Ryūkyū Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Ryūkyū independence movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

     
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    Apparently, PRC is not alone on this.

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    Your usual bull. We all understand that you hate China, but your selective reading is just beyond bias. Even your own sources state that China lost those islands to Japan 1891 when Japan took them by force. That would amount to Germany not returning Alsace and Lorraine to France after world war I then claiming them to be their own. China controlled those islands for hundreds of years.

    And again, if China pulled such a stunt: trying to buy the islands and nationalize them, you'd all accuse China of being some hegemonic bully. But since its Japan, its all our fault somehow.
     
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    I could like those pictures a hundred times. The WHOLE of China standing up to Japanese greed. Its not a coincidence that they alone have island disputes with over 5 individual countries, Russia, South Korea and China included.
     
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    IS that a fact or just speculation? [​IMG] File:Senkaku bonito.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     

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