China's Su-35 fighter order reaches 100

[bose]

Why order 100??? Just order one and rest copy.

They are finding it very difficult to copy the single crystal blade tech for their engine... they are losing confidence in their time tested trade of "Scientific shoplifting".. so they have decided to go for 100 at least...

 

[Dinesh_Kumar]

@nimo_cn ,

That " Sent from my Huawei TrapTalk " stuff seems to be working.

No one knows how effective it is , and people are reacting to it.

Your local area CCP has their gratitude, i'm sure. I'm expecting you to soon become Chief Propaganda Officer.

 

[huaxia rox]

1 news from wct or et or phaul or shanghainist etc = rupee news. lots of onfo there is fake. if people want to believe them then better also believe the famous quote from isro chief we (indians) got best settallites in the world.

2 chinese not indians. we dont import unstealthy fighter jets in the era of getting close to stealthy fighter ruling the sky. claimming designning AMCA while going for su30 and rafale. claimming how good bramos is while egarly buying klub. claimming homemade ac getting built while going for a russian old junk at funnily huge price. claimming how good PSLV is while launching settallites via ariane. chinese dont do things by just claimming with 'will' and 'if' in all the important statements.

 

[bose]

1 news from wct or et or phaul or shanghainist etc = rupee news. lots of onfo there is fake. if people want to believe them then better also believe the famous quote from isro chief we (indians) got best settallites in the world.

2 chinese not indians. we dont import unstealthy fighter jets in the era of getting close to stealthy fighter ruling the sky. claimming designning AMCA while going for su30 and rafale. claimming how good bramos is while egarly buying klub. claimming homemade ac getting built while going for a russian old junk at funnily huge price. claimming how good PSLV is while launching settallites via ariane. chinese dont do things by just claimming with 'will' and 'if' in all the important statements.

You wrote all this?? You must be genius!!

 

[Dinesh_Kumar]

You wrote all this?? You must be genius!!

Writing was easy, he has done it in his own beautiful and unique way...........reading it was the tough part.

 

[Armand2REP]

chinese dont do things by just claimming with 'will' and 'if' in all the important statements.

That is part true, China at least tries to do things, but when they fail they still claim it as success.

 

[roma]

But with no doubt China is ahead of India, it makes sense for an Indian to call China super power.
Sent from my HUAWEI T8951 using Tapatalk 2

as a non resident indian ,actually , i would consider china to be a SUPPER POWER !

considering the number of chinese resaturants all over the world

 

[Impluseblade]

1) Chinese economic reform started in December 1978. You overstated the delay on your side and a 10-year jump is a more accurate number. We are comfortable that the gap hasn't been narrowed as of today.

2) Who will fund the AMCA project, from your pocket?

Lets get real about certain facts.

Apart from few newbies, nobody really bothers about the idea of India as a superpower. But do not misconstrue that to mean we have no strategic ambitions. We have them, right from Horn of Africa to Mallaca Strait, and now into SCS.

Officially, the Superpower term was drowned after GOI decided not to push for UNSC membership.

It is to be expected that China would be ahead of us in several fields. You began economic reforms in 1970s, while we were busy nationalizing banks. Thats 20 year jump you have on us.

And yet, as of today, you are 10 years ahead of us. We are in the same position now as you were in 2001, economy wise.

As for your assertion of being ahead in evything, I'm not interested in your boasting.

The LCA and the AMCA, the AURA and the Rustom projects will continue unabated, despite the aquisition of the Rafale and the T-50. We still have to renew half the AF in 10-15 years time.

As for reputation of Chinese products, well, the less said the better.

 

[TrueSpirit]

no need to make it more dramatic as it is now, the news is said to be fake, what is the point if commenting on fake news.

no one claimed China to be a super power. But with no doubt China is ahead of India, it makes sense for an Indian to call China super power.

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if selling chowmein, legalizing child rape, creating shit-quality product & stealing-cheating from all over the world is the criteria, China definitely is the biggest superpower the world has ever seen :scared:

 

[s002wjh]

the only way i belief is true for 100 su-35 is
1. russia governement report it
2. china government report it
3. sukhoi report
4. alot su-35 seen in china.

so far 1-4 didn't happen.

 

[p2prada]

cant they make good 4G ++ fighters on their own ???

Most probably, not in time. Therefore the contract.

 

[mikhail]

1 news from wct or et or phaul or shanghainist etc = rupee news. lots of onfo there is fake. if people want to believe them then better also believe the famous quote from isro chief we (indians) got best settallites in the world.

2 chinese not indians. we dont import unstealthy fighter jets in the era of getting close to stealthy fighter ruling the sky. claimming designning AMCA while going for su30 and rafale. claimming how good bramos is while egarly buying klub. claimming homemade ac getting built while going for a russian old junk at funnily huge price. claimming how good PSLV is while launching settallites via ariane. chinese dont do things by just claimming with 'will' and 'if' in all the important statements.

the reason behind this is that nobody trusts your country and hence you don't have any other option than to make these stuff ind egenously as no body in this God forsaken world is willing to share TOT with china.
your reputation(read:-notoriety) of copyright violation is known to every one in this planet.at least when it comes to trust and honesty India has a solid reputation in the world,hence we can buy anything which we want to buy from Nuclear-powered SSN to nuclear reactors to 4++ generation aircrafts with full TOT.Period!

 

[shiphone]

quite funny indeed...I'm afraid you have no idea about the world outside india and international politics(especially in China Case), and enjoy your 'good reputation' dreams...

1. in this world, money talks and business is business...every country is chasing for profit of thier own only.
2. seeing china as the potential rival and possiable future 'threat' ,the most advanced defence tech developer USA definitly won't export his tech ...and in EU case, you'd better check' The EU arms embargo on the China' and to find who is behind it and which European countries are againest it...France, UK, Italy, Germany keep trading with China under table with some cover...and China prefer to importing the Tech of the Sub -system. since these EU countries couldn't sell the whole system ,they sometime have to do so which is quite diseconomy or disadvantageous for them even in my eyes as a Chinese
2. and Isriel is some simple businessman nation, you pay and it sell without too much reserve...to be honest ,China gain a lot,but again business is business, both sides got what they want. ..then USA jump in, so we had to be low profile since early 2000s....and Indian friends, India has been the no.1 customer of Isriel defence industry...this is a good chance ,don't miss it.I thought you would gain what you want with your hard work comparing the cooperation with others
3. china also enjoyed the defence trade with those country has the unique tech and no direct conflict with China and less affected by USA..in these cases ,we bought the Tech ,sub system ...and the whole system as well which sometimes no much use to us.but why? business is busess. we know the rules.
4.the relation Russia and China is quite complicated for you: I would make it simple...friends with benifits,friends and rival .

don't keep eyes on the TOT of the whole system only. there are too much things to TOT and much ways to realize it...and we also buy small european companies owing the unique tech to gain something which more direct and commercial...the scopes seems quite narrow...

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China fight the long term war for the The establishment of New China in 1949 not begging it like some country....in the war, we learn we must have advanced weapons to save lives and the importance of self-sufficiency. it's not 'Have to" but we want and firmly plan to do so by any means...in the peace time, Defence trade is most profit business, China's defence industry has tasted the sweetness of it since 1980s .and USA is right the example here...
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in our daily life , powerless or weak person is always easier to be accepted and gain some ' good reputation'.coz they have no harm or they won't threat my business and profits even you put a knife in his hand...and if the knife is broken for some reason , he might buy another one next time..it seems also works between the nations..

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copyright violation? it reminds me the history of some nation's pharmacy industry...and the rank on some list ...very ironic indeed.
BTW, isn't the INS Chakra leased for ten years?
and buy anything? with what? the declining currency?...and you could only buy what others want to sell. it's not up to you ,and it cost a lot in the end(0.95 billion --> 2.35 billion story ) ...that's nothing to pround indeed

 

[The Last Stand]

Why order 100??? Just order one and rest copy.

I believe, reverse engineering takes 2 years with a single aircraft as seen when Russians reverse engineered the technologically obsolete B-29. How long do you think reverse engineering the very advanced Su-35 will take with single aircraft?

Also, Russians said orders should be in excess of 24. So China chose 24.

 

[huaxia rox]

That is part true, China at least tries to do things, but when they fail they still claim it as success.

you mean failed stuff stuff like GSLV or Nirbhay or Chandrayaan-1?

no we dont make crap like those.

 

[Sridhar]

Beijing purchases Su-35 for rearward-firing missile｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

China has decided to purchase Su-35 fighter from Russia because it is able to launch rearward-firing missiles, according to senior colonel Wu Guohui, an associate professor at Beijing's National Defense University.

The birth of rearward-firing missiles has changed the concept of aerial warfare, according to Wu. In regular air-to-air combat, a fighter must shoot down its enemy from behind. With rearward-firing missiles and a a rearview display mounted on the helmet of the pilot, fighter pilots in the future can attack their target from the front.

China has no proper fighter yet capable of launching such a missile during actual combat. The Su-35 will be incorporated into the PLA Air Force to help pilots and the aviation industry get a feel for the new mode of combat. In the future, China will be able to make its own modifications from the Su-35 model.

 

[happy]

Beijing purchases Su-35 for rearward-firing missile｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

China has decided to purchase Su-35 fighter from Russia because it is able to launch rearward-firing missiles, according to senior colonel Wu Guohui, an associate professor at Beijing's National Defense University.

The birth of rearward-firing missiles has changed the concept of aerial warfare, according to Wu. In regular air-to-air combat, a fighter must shoot down its enemy from behind. With rearward-firing missiles and a a rearview display mounted on the helmet of the pilot, fighter pilots in the future can attack their target from the front.

China has no proper fighter yet capable of launching such a missile during actual combat. The Su-35 will be incorporated into the PLA Air Force to help pilots and the aviation industry get a feel for the new mode of combat. In the future, China will be able to make its own modifications from the Su-35 model.

Oh, So now they want to shoot their crap from their a$$. OMG what pressure required

Why not simply say that they failed to copy the engine !!!

 

[TrueSpirit]

And Rafale contract is far from being finalized...things are not all that rosy on the PAKFA front as well...is there any saving grace ???

 

[SajeevJino]

Sale of Su-35s to China still under negotiation: report​

Though Russia made a decision to sell China advanced Su-35 fighters last November, the Military-Industrial Courier based in Moscow on Nov. 13 indicated that no consensus had been reached about details of the sale.

A source from the Russian defense industry told the Military-Industrial Courier that China had requested more than 24 Su-35 fighters from Russia. However, Moscow rejected the request and insisted it would export no more than 24, the source said. In addition, Beijing is also unhappy about Moscow's choice of the Su-35S variant for the PLA Air Force as this model was designed particularly for the Russian Air Force.

The source said Beijing had suggested a joint research program to design a model of the advanced fighter tailored to Chinese requirements. Furthermore, Beijing sought a promise from Moscow to set up a maintenance center in China as part of the contract. Under this new agreement, Chinese experts must be able to maintain and repair Su-35 fighters with training provided by Russian advisers.

At this year's Paris Air Show in June, Alexander Mikheyev, deputy general director of Rosoboronexport — which handles defense imports and exports on behalf of the Russian government — claimed a government agreement had been signed to sell Su-35 fighters to China. Confirming that the two sides are in technical consultations regarding the sale, Mikheyev declined to give details about when the official contract will be signed. Another source attending the airshow said the deal is likely to be finalized by the end of the year.


Sale of Su-35s to China still under negotiation: report｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

 

[angeldude13]

Chinese are inferior to russian in fighter plane technologies.
Where are those chinese fan boys who were jumping around shouting there engine ws-10 is better than the one russians produce.
They even claimed there j-10 and j-15 are superior to Indian su-30 mki.

Lies spread by CPC are getting exposed